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sculptart@aol.com
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earliest TC

Post by sculptart@aol.com » Sat Jun 22, 2002 10:56 am

To all, Peter DeBruyn in the Pacific Northwest, and not a member of this list has TC 0252. To the best of my knowledge, TC 0251, the pre production prototype was the one converted from a TB and used extensively in the catalog and publicity efforts early on. I had heard rumor of this in Japan as recently as 18 months ago, but no confirmation of this. Anyone else? Best to all...Ben, TC 4260

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earliest TC

Post by sculptart@aol.com » Sat Jun 22, 2002 3:40 pm

To all, Peter IS a member of the list and has the first production TC. Thank you to everyone that pointed this out to me! Ben [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Re: earliest TC

Post by Donald Wilkinson » Sun Jun 23, 2002 8:14 am

Going the other way, one is constrained to wonder if the newest TC; (presumably #10251); has survived, and where it is. Don TC 7993
>From: sculptart@aol.com >To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [mg-tabc] earliest TC >Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:56:02 EDT > >To all, > Peter DeBruyn in the Pacific Northwest, and not a member of this list >has >TC 0252. To the best of my knowledge, TC 0251, the pre production prototype >was the one converted from a TB and used extensively in the catalog and >publicity efforts early on. I had heard rumor of this in Japan as recently >as >18 months ago, but no confirmation of this. Anyone else? > Best to all...Ben, TC 4260 > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: earliest TC

Post by Dave Osborn » Mon Jun 24, 2002 10:25 am

Don I happen to have one of the last 35 made (presumably in the last week of production Nov 24 1949). At any rate, because of the lateness I always look for TC's newer than mine. I have seen at least one, I believe it was from New Jersey at a GOF. Never heard any talk of TC 10251. Unfortunately, when I found TC10217 it was indeed a basket case with many missing parts, so I wouldn't be much help with originality. Completed restoration in 1990 and just restored it to what I believed it should look like. One of these days I'll get around to posting a picture, meanwhile I'll just drive it and enjoy it. Dave Osborn TC 10217 TD 6551 -----Original Message----- From: Donald Wilkinson [mailto:digitaldon@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 11:15 AM To: sculptart@aol.com; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] earliest TC Going the other way, one is constrained to wonder if the newest TC; (presumably #10251); has survived, and where it is. Don TC 7993
>From: sculptart@aol.com >To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [mg-tabc] earliest TC >Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:56:02 EDT > >To all, > Peter DeBruyn in the Pacific Northwest, and not a member of this list >has >TC 0252. To the best of my knowledge, TC 0251, the pre production prototype >was the one converted from a TB and used extensively in the catalog and >publicity efforts early on. I had heard rumor of this in Japan as recently >as >18 months ago, but no confirmation of this. Anyone else? > Best to all...Ben, TC 4260 > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: earliest TC

Post by Badger » Mon Jun 24, 2002 10:31 am

If the first TC were #0251 and exactly 10,000 were built, the last would be #10,250 - not 10,251.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Osborn" daveo@excellmfg.com> To: "'Donald Wilkinson'" digitaldon@hotmail.com> Cc: "T-ABC GROUP (E-mail)" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 1:24 PM Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] earliest TC > Don > I happen to have one of the last 35 made (presumably in the last week of > production Nov 24 1949). At any rate, because of the lateness I always look > for TC's newer than mine. I have seen at least one, I believe it was from > New Jersey at a GOF. Never heard any talk of TC 10251. Unfortunately, when > I found TC10217 it was indeed a basket case with many missing parts, so I > wouldn't be much help with originality. Completed restoration in 1990 and > just restored it to what I believed it should look like. One of these days > I'll get around to posting a picture, meanwhile I'll just drive it and enjoy > it. > Dave Osborn > TC 10217 > TD 6551 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donald Wilkinson [mailto:digitaldon@hotmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 11:15 AM > To: sculptart@aol.com; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] earliest TC > > > Going the other way, one is constrained to wonder if the newest TC; > (presumably #10251); has survived, and where it is. > > Don > TC 7993 > > > >From: sculptart@aol.com > >To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [mg-tabc] earliest TC > >Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:56:02 EDT > > > >To all, > > Peter DeBruyn in the Pacific Northwest, and not a member of this list > >has > >TC 0252. To the best of my knowledge, TC 0251, the pre production prototype > >was the one converted from a TB and used extensively in the catalog and > >publicity efforts early on. I had heard rumor of this in Japan as recently > >as > >18 months ago, but no confirmation of this. Anyone else? > > Best to all...Ben, TC 4260 > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

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Re: earliest TC

Post by Dave Osborn » Mon Jun 24, 2002 10:36 am

All this time we've been looking for the wrong one! No wonder no one knows where it is. Were there exactly 10,000 built? Dave Osborn TC 10217 TD 6551 -----Original Message----- From: BADGER [mailto:mrbadger@cox.net] Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 1:07 PM To: MG-TABC Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] earliest TC If the first TC were #0251 and exactly 10,000 were built, the last would be #10,250 - not 10,251.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Osborn" daveo@excellmfg.com> To: "'Donald Wilkinson'" digitaldon@hotmail.com> Cc: "T-ABC GROUP (E-mail)" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 1:24 PM Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] earliest TC > Don > I happen to have one of the last 35 made (presumably in the last week of > production Nov 24 1949). At any rate, because of the lateness I always look > for TC's newer than mine. I have seen at least one, I believe it was from > New Jersey at a GOF. Never heard any talk of TC 10251. Unfortunately, when > I found TC10217 it was indeed a basket case with many missing parts, so I > wouldn't be much help with originality. Completed restoration in 1990 and > just restored it to what I believed it should look like. One of these days > I'll get around to posting a picture, meanwhile I'll just drive it and enjoy > it. > Dave Osborn > TC 10217 > TD 6551 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donald Wilkinson [mailto:digitaldon@hotmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 11:15 AM > To: sculptart@aol.com; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] earliest TC > > > Going the other way, one is constrained to wonder if the newest TC; > (presumably #10251); has survived, and where it is. > > Don > TC 7993 > > > >From: sculptart@aol.com > >To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > >Subject: [mg-tabc] earliest TC > >Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:56:02 EDT > > > >To all, > > Peter DeBruyn in the Pacific Northwest, and not a member of this list > >has > >TC 0252. To the best of my knowledge, TC 0251, the pre production prototype > >was the one converted from a TB and used extensively in the catalog and > >publicity efforts early on. I had heard rumor of this in Japan as recently > >as > >18 months ago, but no confirmation of this. Anyone else? > > Best to all...Ben, TC 4260 > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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Re: earliest TC

Post by Badger » Mon Jun 24, 2002 10:45 am

Dunno. Maybe so. Maybe not. Let's count 'em. We'll start with yours......... One.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Osborn" daveo@excellmfg.com> To: "'BADGER'" mrbadger@cox.net> Cc: "T-ABC GROUP (E-mail)" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 1:35 PM Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] earliest TC > All this time we've been looking for the wrong one! No wonder no one knows > where it is. > Were there exactly 10,000 built? > Dave Osborn > TC 10217 > TD 6551 > > -----Original Message----- > From: BADGER [mailto:mrbadger@cox.net] > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 1:07 PM > To: MG-TABC > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] earliest TC > > > If the first TC were #0251 and exactly 10,000 were built, the last would be > #10,250 - not 10,251. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Osborn" daveo@excellmfg.com> > To: "'Donald Wilkinson'" digitaldon@hotmail.com> > Cc: "T-ABC GROUP (E-mail)" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 1:24 PM > Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] earliest TC > > > > Don > > I happen to have one of the last 35 made (presumably in the last week of > > production Nov 24 1949). At any rate, because of the lateness I always > look > > for TC's newer than mine. I have seen at least one, I believe it was from > > New Jersey at a GOF. Never heard any talk of TC 10251. Unfortunately, > when > > I found TC10217 it was indeed a basket case with many missing parts, so I > > wouldn't be much help with originality. Completed restoration in 1990 and > > just restored it to what I believed it should look like. One of these > days > > I'll get around to posting a picture, meanwhile I'll just drive it and > enjoy > > it. > > Dave Osborn > > TC 10217 > > TD 6551 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Donald Wilkinson [mailto:digitaldon@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 11:15 AM > > To: sculptart@aol.com; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] earliest TC > > > > > > Going the other way, one is constrained to wonder if the newest TC; > > (presumably #10251); has survived, and where it is. > > > > Don > > TC 7993 > > > > > > >From: sculptart@aol.com > > >To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > > >Subject: [mg-tabc] earliest TC > > >Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:56:02 EDT > > > > > >To all, > > > Peter DeBruyn in the Pacific Northwest, and not a member of this > list > > >has > > >TC 0252. To the best of my knowledge, TC 0251, the pre production > prototype > > >was the one converted from a TB and used extensively in the catalog and > > >publicity efforts early on. I had heard rumor of this in Japan as > recently > > >as > > >18 months ago, but no confirmation of this. Anyone else? > > > Best to all...Ben, TC 4260 > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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Re: earliest TC

Post by Donald Wilkinson » Mon Jun 24, 2002 9:44 pm

Uh,oh; guess I don't have enough fingers for these calculations; but yer logic is inescapable. O well................. Don TC 7993
>From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> >To: "MG-TABC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] earliest TC >Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 13:07:27 -0400 > >If the first TC were #0251 and exactly 10,000 were built, the last would be >#10,250 - not 10,251. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dave Osborn" daveo@excellmfg.com> >To: "'Donald Wilkinson'" digitaldon@hotmail.com> >Cc: "T-ABC GROUP (E-mail)" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 1:24 PM >Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] earliest TC > > > > Don > > I happen to have one of the last 35 made (presumably in the last week of > > production Nov 24 1949). At any rate, because of the lateness I always >look > > for TC's newer than mine. I have seen at least one, I believe it was >from > > New Jersey at a GOF. Never heard any talk of TC 10251. Unfortunately, >when > > I found TC10217 it was indeed a basket case with many missing parts, so >I > > wouldn't be much help with originality. Completed restoration in 1990 >and > > just restored it to what I believed it should look like. One of these >days > > I'll get around to posting a picture, meanwhile I'll just drive it and >enjoy > > it. > > Dave Osborn > > TC 10217 > > TD 6551 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Donald Wilkinson [mailto:digitaldon@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2002 11:15 AM > > To: sculptart@aol.com; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] earliest TC > > > > > > Going the other way, one is constrained to wonder if the newest TC; > > (presumably #10251); has survived, and where it is. > > > > Don > > TC 7993 > > > > > > >From: sculptart@aol.com > > >To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > > >Subject: [mg-tabc] earliest TC > > >Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2002 13:56:02 EDT > > > > > >To all, > > > Peter DeBruyn in the Pacific Northwest, and not a member of this >list > > >has > > >TC 0252. To the best of my knowledge, TC 0251, the pre production >prototype > > >was the one converted from a TB and used extensively in the catalog and > > >publicity efforts early on. I had heard rumor of this in Japan as >recently > > >as > > >18 months ago, but no confirmation of this. Anyone else? > > > Best to all...Ben, TC 4260 > > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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