TC Master Cylinder

Mark Stolzenburg
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TC Master Cylinder

Post by Mark Stolzenburg » Sat May 26, 2007 8:47 am

It looks like I have the wrong lenght piston in the repro M/C. Does anyone have an extra 1-11/16 inch piston they are willing to sell? Also, anybody know what the 2 inch piston fits. It appears to be the same diameter as the original TC piston. BTW, Thanks to the group members who reponded to my original message. Mark Stolzenburg St. Louis, Missouri TC 7812 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

D & J Edgar
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Re: TC Master Cylinder

Post by D & J Edgar » Sat May 26, 2007 6:46 pm

> It looks like I have the wrong lenght piston in the repro M/C.
Not necessarily. It may be the wrong piston for an original M/C but if the repro M/C is machined differently then the longer piston may be what is needed. Could be an original shorter piston would be way too short and not work either in the repro M/C. The main forward cup should just clear the small port to the reservoir in the rest position. If too far back then pressure is lost as fluid returns to the reservoir on the initial part of the stroke. There is also the matter of the secondary port and it needs to basically stay between the two cups. If you are not sure what should clear what then perhaps showing someone experienced in brakes can inspect. David Edgar, TC 5108 El Cajon, California

Mark Stolzenburg
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Re: TC Master Cylinder

Post by Mark Stolzenburg » Sun May 27, 2007 10:10 am

David, That was my original thought also, so I pulled the tail housing off and looked inside the M/C. With the piston in the at rest position, the primary cup covers the small hole to the rear. The bottom-line is the piston is too long for the repro M/C. Mark Stolzenburg St. Louis, Missouri TC 7812 -----Original Message----- From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of D & J Edgar Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 8:40 PM To: TABC Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] TC Master Cylinder
> It looks like I have the wrong lenght piston in the repro M/C.
Not necessarily. It may be the wrong piston for an original M/C but if the repro M/C is machined differently then the longer piston may be what is needed. Could be an original shorter piston would be way too short and not work either in the repro M/C. The main forward cup should just clear the small port to the reservoir in the rest position. If too far back then pressure is lost as fluid returns to the reservoir on the initial part of the stroke. There is also the matter of the secondary port and it needs to basically stay between the two cups. If you are not sure what should clear what then perhaps showing someone experienced in brakes can inspect. David Edgar, TC 5108 El Cajon, California [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Tom Wilson
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TC Master Cylinder

Post by Tom Wilson » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:55 pm

Does anyone have a used original master cylinder with a good fluid reservoir can? I'm looking for just the can with the lid. Thanks. Tom Wilson Indianapolis, IN TC0272 & 0273

emaanuel schechter
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TC MASTER CYLINDER

Post by emaanuel schechter » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:03 pm

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    Hi,
    I have attached a closeup photo of the master brake cylinder and the push-rod from the brake pedal. Is the angle between them OK? If not, how do I get them to align?
    Thanks,
    Manny Schechter
    TC9064EXU

    John Seim
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    Re: TC MASTER CYLINDER

    Post by John Seim » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:19 pm

    Manny, it is a little low.Also, the master cylinder pushrod ball socket has a section broken out. Loosen the nut on the backside of the gusset holding the master cylinder to the frame.Move the master cylinder upwards, towards the floorboards.Tighten the nut. That's about it. John SeimIrvine, CA
    On Sep 28, 2017, at 1:02 PM, emaanuel schechter studi7@bellsouth.net [mg-tabc] wrote: Hi,I have attached a closeup photo of the master brake cylinder and the push-rod from the brake pedal. Is the angle between them OK? If not, how do I get them to align?  Thanks,Manny SchechterTC9064EXU

    Norman Verona
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    Re: TC MASTER CYLINDER

    Post by Norman Verona » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:48 pm

    Looks OK to me.

     

     

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    Hi,

    I have attached a closeup photo of the master brake cylinder and the push-rod from the brake pedal. Is the angle between them OK? If not, how do I get them to align?

     

    Thanks,

    Manny Schechter

    TC9064EXU


    Roger Bateman
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    Re: TC MASTER CYLINDER

    Post by Roger Bateman » Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:19 am

      Eric Worpe's very helpful paper on brakes on Totally T-types 2  gives an excellent explanation of the push rod to master cylinder angle (as well as everything else!): http://ttypes.org/ttt2/?s=eric+worpe+brakes&submit=Search

    Roger Furneaux
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    Re: TC MASTER CYLINDER

    Post by Roger Furneaux » Fri Sep 29, 2017 3:44 am

    hi Manny - this is quite normal! It does not look correct, but this is how they are. Doug Pelton has a better solution with a swivel link instead of a ball-joint. Look at: www.FromTheFrameUp.com oc[b]T[/b]agonally Roger
    On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 9:02 PM, emaanuel schechter studi7@bellsouth.net [mg-tabc] mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u] Hi,I have attached a closeup photo of the master brake cylinder and the push-rod from the brake pedal. Is the angle between them OK? If not, how do I get them to align? Thanks,Manny SchechterTC9064EXU

    Eugene F. Gillam
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    Re: TC MASTER CYLINDER

    Post by Eugene F. Gillam » Fri Sep 29, 2017 6:11 am

    Roger wrote:
    Doug Pelton has a better solution with a swivel link instead of a ball-joint. Look at: www.FromTheFrameUp.com
    I've never heard of this...any chance you can post a photo comparing old and new, Doug?  I looked at FTFU technical and didn't see anything there. Thanks, Gene GillamSaucier, MS Sent from my iPad

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