TC exu bumpers (fenders)

[C. Knight]

Chip Old wrote:

> British English American English > --------------- ---------------- > wing fender > fender bumper > spanner wrench > tyre tire > gudgeon pin wrist pin >

In the interest of accuracy the bar at the front that protects the chassis is called a bumper in England. Fenders protect the sides of boats or stop the hot coals from rolling onto the carpet for those of us that still heat our old houses with open fires. Best wishes Cliff

[C. Knight]

> George Arber wrote: > I am currently restoring a 1949 TC EXU model and originally it would > have been equiped with front and rear bumpers (fenders).On checking > the books the rear bumper would have an mg emblem in the centre.

I'm no expert on exu TCs but all the pictures I've seen of the exu TCs leaving British docks show no bumpers (fenders?) fitted. I always assumed the US dealers fitted locally sourced bumpers for the USA market. Possibly later the MGY type ones were imported when they became available. The book MG Log by Peter Haynes has a couple of pictures of USA bound TCs with no bumpers. Regards Cliff

[Chip Old]

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, C. Knight wrote:

> In the interest of accuracy the bar at the front that protects the > chassis is called a bumper in England. Fenders protect the sides of > boats or stop the hot coals from rolling onto the carpet for those of > us that still heat our old houses with open fires.

Hmmmm. I'd have to dig around to verify, but I'm pretty certain that in old (pre-war, early post-war) British car manuals what we call a "bumper" here in the US was referred to as a "fender". Most of my knowledge (or lack thereof) of British automotive terminology is from those old manuals, so is quite likely way out of date. A lot of American English automotive terminology has replaced the old Britrish terminology in British English in recent years. Is this an example? Is this important? Does it matter? Over to the Badger... -- Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271 Cub Hill, Maryland 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E fold@bcpl.net

[David and Joyce Edgar]

I am also no expert on the EXU TC's. How do we know the TC's in the pictures indicated below were 1949 EXU models? I realize some TC's were made as export models (vs home models) without bumpers but were the 1949 EXU models specific just for the colonies and with bumpers? David Edgar, TC 5108 (1948 export model without bumpers) La Mesa, California

> > George Arber wrote: > > I am currently restoring a 1949 TC EXU model and originally it would > > have been equiped with front and rear bumpers (fenders).On checking > > the books the rear bumper would have an mg emblem in the centre. > >I'm no expert on exu TCs but all the pictures I've seen of the exu TCs >leaving British docks show no bumpers (fenders?) fitted. I always >assumed the US dealers fitted locally sourced bumpers for the USA >market. Possibly later the MGY type ones were imported when they became >available. The book MG Log by Peter Haynes has a couple of pictures of >USA bound TCs with no bumpers. >Regards >Cliff

[Chip Old]

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, C. Knight wrote:

> I'm no expert on exu TCs but all the pictures I've seen of the exu TCs > leaving British docks show no bumpers (fenders?) fitted. I always > assumed the US dealers fitted locally sourced bumpers for the USA > market. Possibly later the MGY type ones were imported when they > became available. The book MG Log by Peter Haynes has a couple of > pictures of USA bound TCs with no bumpers.

That was true of TCs exported to the US from 1945 through most of 1948. In late 1948, to meet a combination of customer demand and local motor vehicle regulations, the EXU model began shipping to the US. In addition to the bumpers, it had 7 inch sealed beam headlamps, two tank-mounted tail lamps instead of the normal single D-lamp, turn signals (double-filament bulbs in the tail lamps and front wing lamps, switch mounted on instrument panel in place of the inspection lamp sockets, relay mounted on back of firewall), no fog lamp, and a host of other more minor differences). In the days after new TCs were still fresh in people's minds, but before they became popular among collectors in the late 1970's, a lot of EXUs were "restored" back to what was often thought to be original configuration - meaning the more familiar bumperless (etc) configuration. -- Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271 Cub Hill, Maryland 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E fold@bcpl.net

[Chip Old]

On Wed, 24 Jan 2001, David and Joyce Edgar wrote to T-ABC list:

> I am also no expert on the EXU TC's. How do we know the TC's in the > pictures indicated below were 1949 EXU models?

We don't.

> I realize some TC's were made as export models (vs home models) > without bumpers but were the 1949 EXU models specific just for the > colonies...

Not all the "Colonies". Just the United States.

> ...and with bumpers?

Yes, with bumpers. -- Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271 Cub Hill, Maryland 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E fold@bcpl.net

[Mark McCombs]

As an owner of an EXU, here is what I know: There were very few EXU's made, I think 496. They had some mods specifically for export to the US, mainly: chrome bumpers, front and rear. The rear had the center cast MG medallion with red painted background and high, center mounted tag holder. Bumpers similar to the TD but different. Turn signals were fitted, ie flashing directionals in the front wing lamps, and high, tank mounted bullet lamps in the rear. No D-lamp. TD type headlamps. Horns were twin, under bonnet TD style. No SFT462 driving light on the badge bar (and no horn there, either, obviously)... Any others? Regards Mark McCombs TC EXU8126

----- Original Message ----- From: "C. Knight" cliffknight@ic24.net> To: "mgtabc" mg-tabc@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] TC exu bumpers (fenders) > > George Arber wrote: > > I am currently restoring a 1949 TC EXU model and originally it would > > have been equiped with front and rear bumpers (fenders).On checking > > the books the rear bumper would have an mg emblem in the centre. > > I'm no expert on exu TCs but all the pictures I've seen of the exu TCs > leaving British docks show no bumpers (fenders?) fitted. I always > assumed the US dealers fitted locally sourced bumpers for the USA > market. Possibly later the MGY type ones were imported when they became > available. The book MG Log by Peter Haynes has a couple of pictures of > USA bound TCs with no bumpers. > Regards > Cliff > > > >

[Paul Huck]

Agree. Mine went to Trinidad first and has never had bumpers. Clutters up the look, I think. In front, the tires hit first and are rubber. When I was rear-ended in August no amount of rear protection would have helped. The car following went over where a bumper would be and pushed the spare into the fuel tank. This required a new tank and wheel. PTH

----- Original Message ----- From: Charles_Shiplee@batesuk.com> To: Derek Durst mrbadger@home.com> Cc: mg-tabc@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 6:59 AM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] TC exu bumpers (fenders) > > I guess it depends which exu area you are talking about. > My car was exported to Australia and does not have the bumper overriders > that you refer to. In fact it doesn't have any bumpers. > > > Charles > > > > > >

[Paul Huck]

And all this time I thought they were guitars ?

----- Original Message ----- From: joecurto@aol.com> To: mrbadger@home.com>; mg-tabc@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:02 AM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] TC exu bumpers (fenders) > Fenders are bumpers for boats . > > > >

[Forstner, Peter]

RE: [mg-tabc] TC exu bumpers (fenders) If they were guitars, it should be Fender vs. Gibson and not fenders vs. bumpers! I own all: Fender, Gibson, bumpers ... But none of them has to do with my TC. Regards Peter Forstner - TC6325 -----Original Message----- From: Paul Huck [paulhuck@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, 25 January, 2001 04:35 To: mrbadger@home.com; mg-tabc@egroups.com; joecurto@aol.com Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] TC exu bumpers (fenders) And all this time I thought they were guitars ? ----- Original Message ----- From: joecurto@aol.com> To: mrbadger@home.com>; mg-tabc@egroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:02 AM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] TC exu bumpers (fenders) > Fenders are bumpers for boats . > > > >