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[RobertWichert]

Gotcha. Soft is true. For sure. Wear out is true. For sure. Sidewall? OK, I'll take your word for it. I think the knobbies are the same though. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 3/27/2012 9:21 AM, mechanizeinc wrote: > > > The Continentals were awesome tires for the street because they are > soft. I think they stick on wet roads better than D606s. But that same > attribute makes 'em last about as long as a pencil eraser... and I > make a lot of mistakes! > > The fact that the D606 is less money and lasts a bit longer, plus is a > bit more aggressive knobby than the TK-80. And the sidewall strength > issue I discussed in the post. > > Mech > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , "mechanizeinc" > wrote: > > > > > > I always do the same thing with my tires; Crazy $#!+ > > > > I can be going along fine. Mellow. Tame. You could call me grandpa. > Then, a wild hair, crazy traffic, or an accident requires evasive > maneuvers. I like hopping up on the median or diving into the woods. > > > > This is why the D606 rocks. It is 112mph or so speed rated and does > great on wet grass, wet pavement, sand and mud. The side wall is so > strong they will run flat so blown tubes aren't as dangerous at > freeway speeds. > > > > If I'm planning a long trip, I mount D606s and have replacements > lined up 3000 miles into my route. > > > > Mech > > Who is still going to kinda sorta motard with a 19 front and K761s > despite his better judgement. > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , mark ward wrote: > > > > > > Egg's > > > > > > "Special" 6 for $1., Regulary $2. a dozen. > > > > > > Would you like 6 or..... half a dozen? > > > It's all in the planning ahead stage, WHAT are you planning on > doing with the "EGGS? > > > > > > > > > When I plan on a LONG trip, (more pavement) I get longer lasting > tires = MORE $$ > > > > > > If planing on running hard, in areas I do not know & possible > sharp rocks, nails ect. I get average tires like 606's. > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mark ward]

Sidewalls are what I would like to know more facts about. (for flats etc.) g> wrote: From: RobertWichert Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Tires To: "mechanizeinc" Cc: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 27, 2012, 4:44 PM Gotcha. Soft is true. For sure. Wear out is true. For sure. Sidewall? OK, I'll take your word for it. I think the knobbies are the same though. Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 3/27/2012 9:21 AM, mechanizeinc wrote: > > > The Continentals were awesome tires for the street because they are > soft. I think they stick on wet roads better than D606s. But that same > attribute makes 'em last about as long as a pencil eraser... and I > make a lot of mistakes! > > The fact that the D606 is less money and lasts a bit longer, plus is a > bit more aggressive knobby than the TK-80. And the sidewall strength > issue I discussed in the post. > > Mech > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , "mechanizeinc" > wrote: > > > > > > I always do the same thing with my tires; Crazy $#!+ > > > > I can be going along fine. Mellow. Tame. You could call me grandpa. > Then, a wild hair, crazy traffic, or an accident requires evasive > maneuvers. I like hopping up on the median or diving into the woods. > > > > This is why the D606 rocks. It is 112mph or so speed rated and does > great on wet grass, wet pavement, sand and mud. The side wall is so > strong they will run flat so blown tubes aren't as dangerous at > freeway speeds. > > > > If I'm planning a long trip, I mount D606s and have replacements > lined up 3000 miles into my route. > > > > Mech > > Who is still going to kinda sorta motard with a 19 front and K761s > despite his better judgement. > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , mark ward wrote: > > > > > > Egg's > > > > > > "Special" 6 for $1., Regulary $2. a dozen. > > > > > > Would you like 6 or..... half a dozen? > > > It's all in the planning ahead stage, WHAT are you planning on > doing with the "EGGS? > > > > > > > > > When I plan on a LONG trip, (more pavement) I get longer lasting > tires = MORE $$ > > > > > > If planing on running hard, in areas I do not know & possible > sharp rocks, nails ect. I get average tires like 606's. > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[ron criswell]

The knobs seem longer and seem to last longer (606-to me). Criswell Sent from my iPad

On Mar 27, 2012, at 11:17 AM, RobertWichert wrote: > The D606 is the same "big block" style as the TKC 80. Is there a reason > that you like the D606 and you don't like the TKC 80? > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > =============================================== > > On 3/27/2012 8:33 AM, mechanizeinc wrote: > > > > > > I always do the same thing with my tires; Crazy $#!+ > > > > I can be going along fine. Mellow. Tame. You could call me grandpa. > > Then, a wild hair, crazy traffic, or an accident requires evasive > > maneuvers. I like hopping up on the median or diving into the woods. > > > > This is why the D606 rocks. It is 112mph or so speed rated and does > > great on wet grass, wet pavement, sand and mud. The side wall is so > > strong they will run flat so blown tubes aren't as dangerous at > > freeway speeds. > > > > If I'm planning a long trip, I mount D606s and have replacements lined > > up 3000 miles into my route. > > > > Mech > > Who is still going to kinda sorta motard with a 19 front and K761s > > despite his better judgement. > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > , mark ward wrote: > > > > > > Egg's > > > > > > "Special" 6 for $1., Regulary $2. a dozen. > > > > > > Would you like 6 or..... half a dozen? > > > It's all in the planning ahead stage, WHAT are you planning on doing > > with the "EGGS? > > > > > > > > > When I plan on a LONG trip, (more pavement) I get longer lasting > > tires = MORE $$ > > > > > > If planing on running hard, in areas I do not know & possible sharp > > rocks, nails ect. I get average tires like 606's. > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[RobertWichert]

Well, we should be MEASURING those knobs! My TKC 80 knobs are about 0.3" long in the middle of the rear tire. It's almost new. How long are your knobs? Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 3/27/2012 11:45 AM, Ron Criswell wrote: > The knobs seem longer and seem to last longer (606-to me). > > Criswell > > Sent from my iPad > > On Mar 27, 2012, at 11:17 AM, RobertWichert > wrote: > >> The D606 is the same "big block" style as the TKC 80. Is there a reason >> that you like the D606 and you don't like the TKC 80? >> >> Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP >> +1 916 966 9060 >> FAX +1 916 966 9068 >> >> =============================================== >> >> On 3/27/2012 8:33 AM, mechanizeinc wrote: >> > >> > >> > I always do the same thing with my tires; Crazy $#!+ >> > >> > I can be going along fine. Mellow. Tame. You could call me grandpa. >> > Then, a wild hair, crazy traffic, or an accident requires evasive >> > maneuvers. I like hopping up on the median or diving into the woods. >> > >> > This is why the D606 rocks. It is 112mph or so speed rated and does >> > great on wet grass, wet pavement, sand and mud. The side wall is so >> > strong they will run flat so blown tubes aren't as dangerous at >> > freeway speeds. >> > >> > If I'm planning a long trip, I mount D606s and have replacements lined >> > up 3000 miles into my route. >> > >> > Mech >> > Who is still going to kinda sorta motard with a 19 front and K761s >> > despite his better judgement. >> > >> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >> >> > , mark ward wrote: >> > > >> > > Egg's >> > > >> > > "Special" 6 for $1., Regulary $2. a dozen. >> > > >> > > Would you like 6 or..... half a dozen? >> > > It's all in the planning ahead stage, WHAT are you planning on doing >> > with the "EGGS? >> > > >> > > >> > > When I plan on a LONG trip, (more pavement) I get longer lasting >> > tires = MORE $$ >> > > >> > > If planing on running hard, in areas I do not know & possible sharp >> > rocks, nails ect. I get average tires like 606's. >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jeff Saline]

Listers, This was first posted here on 9 August 2004. Maybe it's still useful for the tires thread currently going on since the data collected includes Kenda K270, Dunlop D606 and Continental TKC80 tires. Oh, this data collection started as part of a "contest" for the group on this ride. We each were going to put $10 in a pool. At a designated point we'd determine which tire was the best for wear per mile. The "winner" would get the money and then take the group to dinner. Kind of a win win for everyone. The winner in CO was Steve with the TKC80. Martin was already gone by a day and Bill left the next morning. If I was doing this again I'd suggest we compare price versus miles/wear. I think the K270s would have taken the winnings then. : ) Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 <><><><> <><><><> KLRers, The first copy lost the data formatting. Hopefully this will come through in a more useable format. Jeff *********************************** KLRers, I recently returned from the Great Divide Ride, Canada to Mexico following the Continental Divide, mostly on dirt. I measured rear tire tread depth on each bike each day and recorded mileage and tread depth in 32nds of an inch. Four of the tires were new at my shop at the beginning of the ride. One tire had about 1,500 miles on it I think when I started measuring it at the Canadian border. Here is the data I collected by measuring each tire in the same location at the end of each day's ride. The measurement location was next to the valve stem on the rear tire in the center of the tread. Tire pressures were not checked and if I was doing this again I'd also record tire pressures. Bikes were fully loaded (probably 100 or more pounds gear on each bike) and on pavement we usually ran 65-75 mph as verified by a GPS. On the dirt and gravel roads we ran from a crawl to 65 mph but I'm guessing here that most speeds were 20-45 mph in the dirt. Only two bikes made the entire trip. Two guys had to leave after about a week to go back to work. One bike was run over by a pick up truck in Colorado and totaled. The rider walked away from the scene. We were on some pavement everyday but usually it was gravel or dirt roads. Temps ranged from low 40s to mid 70s most days. We had high 90s on the first day and that was also pavement and speed. New tires lose tread fast at first as you can see from the below data. My last day the temps were probably from 70-90 degrees and speeds stayed about 65-70 actual. I was surprised that I didn't lose any tread on that day. I'll be staying with Kenda K270s as I like the price for the performance. For tire pressures I ran 32 front and 36 rear on the Kendas on pavement and about 27-29 front and 30-32 rear on dirt/gravel. I also used monster tubes in both tires. I like them but it took a lot of weight to balance the tires with the monster tubes. Best, Jeff Saline ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT Tire #1 Jeff Kenda K270 5.10X17 Odometer* Miles* Accumulative Miles*Tread Depth in 32nds"* Road Surface 4502 0 0 17 N/A 5018 516 516 15 Paved 5450 432 948 14 Paved 5691 241 1189 14 Paved/Dirt 5878 187 1376 12 Paved/Dirt 5997 119 1495 12 Dirt 6234 237 1732 11 Dirt 6416 182 1914 11 Dirt 6736 320 2234 10 Dirt 6878 142 2376 10 Dirt 7179 301 2677 10 Dirt 7356 177 2854 9 Dirt 7503 147 3001 9 Dirt 7746 243 3244 9 Dirt 8074 328 3572 9 Paved 8333 259 3831 8 Dirt 8462 129 3960 8 Sand/Paved 8587 125 4085 7 Paved 8831 244 4329 7 Paved 9643 812 5141 7 Paved Tire #2 Martin Kenda K270 5.10X17 Odometer* Miles* Accumulative Miles*Tread Depth in 32nds"* Road Surface 7368 0 0 17 N/A 7877 509 509 15 Paved 8308 431 940 13 Paved 8546 238 1178 12 Paved/Dirt 8737 191 1369 12 Paved/Dirt 8853 116 1485 12 Dirt 9087 234 1719 11 Dirt 9266 179 1898 10 Dirt Tire #3 Bill Dunlop D606 130/90-17 Odometer* Miles* Accumulative Miles*Tread Depth in 32nds"* Road Surface 5751 0 0 18 N/A 6261 510 510 17 Paved 6688 427 937 16 Paved 6925 237 1174 15 Paved/Dirt 7113 188 1362 14 Paved/Dirt 7231 118 1480 13 Dirt 7465 234 1714 12 Dirt 7645 180 1894 12 Dirt 7961 316 2210 12 Dirt 8103 142 2352 11 Dirt Tire #4 Mike Dunlop D606 130/90-17 Odometer* Miles* Accumulative Miles*Tread Depth in 32nds"* Road Surface 23392 0 1500 12 Paved/Dirt 23636 244 1744 10 Paved/Dirt 23827 191 1935 10 Dirt 23945 118 2053 10 Dirt 24178 233 2286 10 Dirt 24357 179 2465 10 Dirt 24675 318 2783 9 Dirt 24815 140 2923 9 Dirt 25115 300 3223 9 Dirt 25293 178 3401 8 Dirt Bike Totaled Tire #5 Steve Continental TKC80 130/80-17 Odometer* Miles* Accumulative Miles*Tread Depth in 32nds"* Road Surface 27862 0 0 12 N/A 28368 506 506 11 Paved 28793 425 931 10 Paved 29029 236 1167 10 Paved/Dirt 29213 184 1351 9 Paved/Dirt 29330 117 1468 9 Dirt 29562 232 1700 9 Dirt 29740 178 1878 8 Dirt 30053 313 2191 8 Dirt 30194 141 2332 8 Dirt 30490 296 2628 7 Dirt 30661 171 2799 7 Dirt 30792 131 2930 7 Dirt 31030 238 3168 7 Dirt 31352 322 3490 6 Paved 31612 260 3750 6 Dirt 31740 128 3878 6 Sand/Paved 31863 123 4001 5 Paved 32613 750 4751 5 Paved . . ____________________________________________________________ 57 Year Old Looks 27 Local Woman Reveals Wrinkle Secret That Has Doctors Angry. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f723794f241526f7a77st05vuc

[RobertWichert]

Sure enough! Your knobs are bigger than my knobs! (Actually the TKC 80 knobs in this study are also bigger than my knobs - strange) Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 ===============================================

On 3/27/2012 2:56 PM, Jeff Saline wrote: > Tire #1 Jeff Kenda K270 5.10X17 > Odometer* Miles* Accumulative Miles*Tread Depth in 32nds"* Road Surface > 4502 0 0 17 N/A > 5018 516 516 15 Paved > 5450 432 948 14 Paved > 5691 241 1189 14 Paved/Dirt > 5878 187 1376 12 Paved/Dirt > 5997 119 1495 12 Dirt > 6234 237 1732 11 Dirt > 6416 182 1914 11 Dirt > 6736 320 2234 10 Dirt > 6878 142 2376 10 Dirt > 7179 301 2677 10 Dirt > 7356 177 2854 9 Dirt > 7503 147 3001 9 Dirt > 7746 243 3244 9 Dirt > 8074 328 3572 9 Paved > 8333 259 3831 8 Dirt > 8462 129 3960 8 Sand/Paved > 8587 125 4085 7 Paved > 8831 244 4329 7 Paved > 9643 812 5141 7 Paved > > Tire #2 Martin Kenda K270 5.10X17 > Odometer* Miles* Accumulative Miles*Tread Depth in 32nds"* Road Surface > 7368 0 0 17 N/A > 7877 509 509 15 Paved > 8308 431 940 13 Paved > 8546 238 1178 12 Paved/Dirt > 8737 191 1369 12 Paved/Dirt > 8853 116 1485 12 Dirt > 9087 234 1719 11 Dirt > 9266 179 1898 10 Dirt > > Tire #3 Bill Dunlop D606 130/90-17 > Odometer* Miles* Accumulative Miles*Tread Depth in 32nds"* Road Surface > 5751 0 0 18 N/A > 6261 510 510 17 Paved > 6688 427 937 16 Paved > 6925 237 1174 15 Paved/Dirt > 7113 188 1362 14 Paved/Dirt > 7231 118 1480 13 Dirt > 7465 234 1714 12 Dirt > 7645 180 1894 12 Dirt > 7961 316 2210 12 Dirt > 8103 142 2352 11 Dirt > > Tire #4 Mike Dunlop D606 130/90-17 > Odometer* Miles* Accumulative Miles*Tread Depth in 32nds"* Road Surface > 23392 0 1500 12 Paved/Dirt > 23636 244 1744 10 Paved/Dirt > 23827 191 1935 10 Dirt > 23945 118 2053 10 Dirt > 24178 233 2286 10 Dirt > 24357 179 2465 10 Dirt > 24675 318 2783 9 Dirt > 24815 140 2923 9 Dirt > 25115 300 3223 9 Dirt > 25293 178 3401 8 Dirt > Bike Totaled > > Tire #5 Steve Continental TKC80 130/80-17 > Odometer* Miles* Accumulative Miles*Tread Depth in 32nds"* Road Surface > 27862 0 0 12 N/A > 28368 506 506 11 Paved > 28793 425 931 10 Paved > 29029 236 1167 10 Paved/Dirt > 29213 184 1351 9 Paved/Dirt > 29330 117 1468 9 Dirt > 29562 232 1700 9 Dirt > 29740 178 1878 8 Dirt > 30053 313 2191 8 Dirt > 30194 141 2332 8 Dirt > 30490 296 2628 7 Dirt > 30661 171 2799 7 Dirt > 30792 131 2930 7 Dirt > 31030 238 3168 7 Dirt > 31352 322 3490 6 Paved > 31612 260 3750 6 Dirt > 31740 128 3878 6 Sand/Paved > 31863 123 4001 5 Paved > 32613 750 4751 5 Paved

[dat brooklyn bum]

Not that you were asking me, but the TKC isn't nearly as aggressive as the 606. The TKC has slightly better road manners and FAR worse off road handling. You'll only find this out at the limit of traction, leaned way over in the dirt and hoping the side knobs hook up. . . I almost ended up in traction when I learned this lesson. If you look at these tires side by side from the front or rear you can see the difference in the profile and height of the knobs. The TKC is far more rounded in overall profile and the 606 has much taller knobs. Bottom line, where do you do your most aggressive riding, not where do you do your most riding. da Vermonster (yes I still blame the TKC 80 for my ankle injury in LA-B-2-V 2007)

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote: > > The D606 is the same "big block" style as the TKC 80. Is there a reason > that you like the D606 and you don't like the TKC 80? > > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > =============================================== > > > On 3/27/2012 8:33 AM, mechanizeinc wrote: > > > > > > I always do the same thing with my tires; Crazy $#!+ > > > > I can be going along fine. Mellow. Tame. You could call me grandpa. > > Then, a wild hair, crazy traffic, or an accident requires evasive > > maneuvers. I like hopping up on the median or diving into the woods. > > > > This is why the D606 rocks. It is 112mph or so speed rated and does > > great on wet grass, wet pavement, sand and mud. The side wall is so > > strong they will run flat so blown tubes aren't as dangerous at > > freeway speeds. > > > > If I'm planning a long trip, I mount D606s and have replacements lined > > up 3000 miles into my route. > > > > Mech > > Who is still going to kinda sorta motard with a 19 front and K761s > > despite his better judgement. > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > , mark ward wrote: > > > > > > Egg's > > > > > > "Special" 6 for $1., Regulary $2. a dozen. > > > > > > Would you like 6 or..... half a dozen? > > > It's all in the planning ahead stage, WHAT are you planning on doing > > with the "EGGS? > > > > > > > > > When I plan on a LONG trip, (more pavement) I get longer lasting > > tires = MORE $$ > > > > > > If planing on running hard, in areas I do not know & possible sharp > > rocks, nails ect. I get average tires like 606's. > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[ron criswell]

Exactly my opinion. Criswell Sent from my iPad

On Mar 27, 2012, at 8:48 PM, "dat brooklyn bum" wrote: > Not that you were asking me, but the TKC isn't nearly as aggressive as the 606. The TKC has slightly better road manners and FAR worse off road handling. You'll only find this out at the limit of traction, leaned way over in the dirt and hoping the side knobs hook up. . . I almost ended up in traction when I learned this lesson. If you look at these tires side by side from the front or rear you can see the difference in the profile and height of the knobs. The TKC is far more rounded in overall profile and the 606 has much taller knobs. > > Bottom line, where do you do your most aggressive riding, not where do you do your most riding. > > da Vermonster (yes I still blame the TKC 80 for my ankle injury in LA-B-2-V 2007) > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote: > > > > The D606 is the same "big block" style as the TKC 80. Is there a reason > > that you like the D606 and you don't like the TKC 80? > > > > > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP > > +1 916 966 9060 > > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =============================================== > > > > > > On 3/27/2012 8:33 AM, mechanizeinc wrote: > > > > > > > > > I always do the same thing with my tires; Crazy $#!+ > > > > > > I can be going along fine. Mellow. Tame. You could call me grandpa. > > > Then, a wild hair, crazy traffic, or an accident requires evasive > > > maneuvers. I like hopping up on the median or diving into the woods. > > > > > > This is why the D606 rocks. It is 112mph or so speed rated and does > > > great on wet grass, wet pavement, sand and mud. The side wall is so > > > strong they will run flat so blown tubes aren't as dangerous at > > > freeway speeds. > > > > > > If I'm planning a long trip, I mount D606s and have replacements lined > > > up 3000 miles into my route. > > > > > > Mech > > > Who is still going to kinda sorta motard with a 19 front and K761s > > > despite his better judgement. > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > > , mark ward wrote: > > > > > > > > Egg's > > > > > > > > "Special" 6 for $1., Regulary $2. a dozen. > > > > > > > > Would you like 6 or..... half a dozen? > > > > It's all in the planning ahead stage, WHAT are you planning on doing > > > with the "EGGS? > > > > > > > > > > > > When I plan on a LONG trip, (more pavement) I get longer lasting > > > tires = MORE $$ > > > > > > > > If planing on running hard, in areas I do not know & possible sharp > > > rocks, nails ect. I get average tires like 606's. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jud]

Last time I looked, the TKC cost about as much as the Mefo, in other words, as much as a pair of D606. Is that reason enough? The CW is, the TKC is better on pavement, and quieter than the D606. In fact, it is quieter, but I don't see where it works better. The D606 flat out works on pavement, and is better on dirt than the Continental. Plus, it is about the easiest tire to mount that I ever worked with on the KLR. (I actually think the K270 can be a pain. The bead is often reluctant to seat for me.) My first encounter with the TKC was the one that came on my buddy's GS1150 Adventure. It evaporated in about 1200 miles. I still have his almost-new front take-off, just waiting to go on Shelly's R80GS someday, although it's probably too crusty by now. I take kind of a jaundiced view of German tires in general. After years of watching Metzelers evaporate in 3500 miles on the back of my BMWs, and Contis not doing much better, while my Dunlops and Avons consistently gave me 10k or more, I have come to think of Metzelers in particular, and German tires in general, as overpriced and overrated. Contis and now Mefos are tarred with the same brush. I haven't heard anyone 'splain what justifies a triple-digit price on a dual sport tire.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, RobertWichert wrote: > > The D606 is the same "big block" style as the TKC 80. Is there a reason > that you like the D606 and you don't like the TKC 80? > > > Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP > +1 916 966 9060 > FAX +1 916 966 9068 > > > > > > > > =============================================== > > > On 3/27/2012 8:33 AM, mechanizeinc wrote: > > > > > > I always do the same thing with my tires; Crazy $#!+ > > > > I can be going along fine. Mellow. Tame. You could call me grandpa. > > Then, a wild hair, crazy traffic, or an accident requires evasive > > maneuvers. I like hopping up on the median or diving into the woods. > > > > This is why the D606 rocks. It is 112mph or so speed rated and does > > great on wet grass, wet pavement, sand and mud. The side wall is so > > strong they will run flat so blown tubes aren't as dangerous at > > freeway speeds. > > > > If I'm planning a long trip, I mount D606s and have replacements lined > > up 3000 miles into my route. > > > > Mech > > Who is still going to kinda sorta motard with a 19 front and K761s > > despite his better judgement. > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > , mark ward wrote: > > > > > > Egg's > > > > > > "Special" 6 for $1., Regulary $2. a dozen. > > > > > > Would you like 6 or..... half a dozen? > > > It's all in the planning ahead stage, WHAT are you planning on doing > > with the "EGGS? > > > > > > > > > When I plan on a LONG trip, (more pavement) I get longer lasting > > tires = MORE $$ > > > > > > If planing on running hard, in areas I do not know & possible sharp > > rocks, nails ect. I get average tires like 606's. > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[Jud]

On my first Moto Mutz trip to Mexico, I started out with a K270 that looked about half or 2/3 gone. Marty Mataya looked at it and laughed. He thought I was going to have to try to replace it somewhere down in the canyons. Other guys started the trip on new Karoos, MT21s, TKC80s. We probably only rode 2500 miles in 2 weeks. I watched all these other tires run their knobs completely off. At the end of the trip, my Kenda looked pretty much the same as it did at the start. I would have liked to say I had the last laugh, but I couldn't really be laughing at Marty, who did the whole ride on a castoff mx front and a grooved out street tire on the rear.

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > Listers, > > This was first posted here on 9 August 2004. Maybe it's still useful for > the tires thread currently going on since the data collected includes > Kenda K270, Dunlop D606 and Continental TKC80 tires. > > Oh, this data collection started as part of a "contest" for the group on > this ride. We each were going to put $10 in a pool. At a designated > point we'd determine which tire was the best for wear per mile. The > "winner" would get the money and then take the group to dinner. Kind of > a win win for everyone. The winner in CO was Steve with the TKC80. > Martin was already gone by a day and Bill left the next morning. If I > was doing this again I'd suggest we compare price versus miles/wear. I > think the K270s would have taken the winnings then. : ) > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 > <><><><> > <><><><> > KLRers, > > The first copy lost the data formatting. Hopefully this will come > through in a more useable format. > > Jeff > *********************************** > KLRers, > > I recently returned from the Great Divide Ride, Canada to Mexico > following the Continental Divide, mostly on dirt. I measured rear tire > tread depth on each bike each day and recorded mileage and tread depth in > 32nds of an inch. Four of the tires were new at my shop at the beginning > of the ride. One tire had about 1,500 miles on it I think when I started > measuring it at the Canadian border. Here is the data I collected by > measuring each tire in the same location at the end of each day's ride. > The measurement location was next to the valve stem on the rear tire in > the center of the tread. Tire pressures were not checked and if I was > doing this again I'd also record tire pressures. Bikes were fully loaded > (probably 100 or more pounds gear on each bike) and on pavement we > usually ran 65-75 mph as verified by a GPS. On the dirt and gravel roads > we ran from a crawl to 65 mph but I'm guessing here that most speeds were > 20-45 mph in the dirt. Only two bikes made the entire trip. Two guys > had to leave after about a week to go back to work. One bike was run > over by a pick up truck in Colorado and totaled. The rider walked away > from the scene. We were on some pavement everyday but usually it was > gravel or dirt roads. Temps ranged from low 40s to mid 70s most days. > We had high 90s on the first day and that was also pavement and speed. > New tires lose tread fast at first as you can see from the below data. > My last day the temps were probably from 70-90 degrees and speeds stayed > about 65-70 actual. I was surprised that I didn't lose any tread on that > day. I'll be staying with Kenda K270s as I like the price for the > performance. For tire pressures I ran 32 front and 36 rear on the Kendas > on pavement and about 27-29 front and 30-32 rear on dirt/gravel. I also > used monster tubes in both tires. I like them but it took a lot of > weight to balance the tires with the monster tubes. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > Tire #1 Jeff Kenda K270 5.10X17 > Odometer* Miles* Accumulative Miles*Tread Depth in 32nds"* Road Surface > 4502 0 0 17 N/A > 5018 516 516 15 Paved > 5450 432 948 14 Paved > 5691 241 1189 14 Paved/Dirt > 5878 187 1376 12 Paved/Dirt > 5997 119 1495 12 Dirt > 6234 237 1732 11 Dirt > 6416 182 1914 11 Dirt > 6736 320 2234 10 Dirt > 6878 142 2376 10 Dirt > 7179 301 2677 10 Dirt > 7356 177 2854 9 Dirt > 7503 147 3001 9 Dirt > 7746 243 3244 9 Dirt > 8074 328 3572 9 Paved > 8333 259 3831 8 Dirt > 8462 129 3960 8 Sand/Paved > 8587 125 4085 7 Paved > 8831 244 4329 7 Paved > 9643 812 5141 7 Paved > > Tire #2 Martin Kenda K270 5.10X17 > Odometer* Miles* Accumulative Miles*Tread Depth in 32nds"* Road Surface > 7368 0 0 17 N/A > 7877 509 509 15 Paved > 8308 431 940 13 Paved > 8546 238 1178 12 Paved/Dirt > 8737 191 1369 12 Paved/Dirt > 8853 116 1485 12 Dirt > 9087 234 1719 11 Dirt > 9266 179 1898 10 Dirt > > Tire #3 Bill Dunlop D606 130/90-17 > Odometer* Miles* Accumulative Miles*Tread Depth in 32nds"* Road Surface > 5751 0 0 18 N/A > 6261 510 510 17 Paved > 6688 427 937 16 Paved > 6925 237 1174 15 Paved/Dirt > 7113 188 1362 14 Paved/Dirt > 7231 118 1480 13 Dirt > 7465 234 1714 12 Dirt > 7645 180 1894 12 Dirt > 7961 316 2210 12 Dirt > 8103 142 2352 11 Dirt > > Tire #4 Mike Dunlop D606 130/90-17 > Odometer* Miles* Accumulative Miles*Tread Depth in 32nds"* Road Surface > 23392 0 1500 12 Paved/Dirt > 23636 244 1744 10 Paved/Dirt > 23827 191 1935 10 Dirt > 23945 118 2053 10 Dirt > 24178 233 2286 10 Dirt > 24357 179 2465 10 Dirt > 24675 318 2783 9 Dirt > 24815 140 2923 9 Dirt > 25115 300 3223 9 Dirt > 25293 178 3401 8 Dirt > Bike Totaled > > Tire #5 Steve Continental TKC80 130/80-17 > Odometer* Miles* Accumulative Miles*Tread Depth in 32nds"* Road Surface > 27862 0 0 12 N/A > 28368 506 506 11 Paved > 28793 425 931 10 Paved > 29029 236 1167 10 Paved/Dirt > 29213 184 1351 9 Paved/Dirt > 29330 117 1468 9 Dirt > 29562 232 1700 9 Dirt > 29740 178 1878 8 Dirt > 30053 313 2191 8 Dirt > 30194 141 2332 8 Dirt > 30490 296 2628 7 Dirt > 30661 171 2799 7 Dirt > 30792 131 2930 7 Dirt > 31030 238 3168 7 Dirt > 31352 322 3490 6 Paved > 31612 260 3750 6 Dirt > 31740 128 3878 6 Sand/Paved > 31863 123 4001 5 Paved > 32613 750 4751 5 Paved > > . > . > ____________________________________________________________ > 57 Year Old Looks 27 > Local Woman Reveals Wrinkle Secret That Has Doctors Angry. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f723794f241526f7a77st05vuc >