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chrishan gunasekara
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Post by chrishan gunasekara » Thu May 15, 2003 10:27 am

It's almost time for me to change the tires in my KLR 650. I have clocked in 14,700 miles on the stock tires, I might be able to get about another 2K on the rear and probably another 5K on the front tire. I am thinking about the Metzeler-Tourance tires as the replacement ones. Has any of you riders tried the Metzeler-Tourance tires ? If so what I would like to know is, since the Metzelers I have seen are tubeless tires, is there a Metzeler-Tourance that is built to take an inner tube ? If the tubeless tires were used with a tube, what size should the tubes be for the front and rear respectively (in other words is tube size differant from the stock tubes ? and is it OK to use inner tubes in a tubeless tire ?) ? Also another question is has anybody experimented with using a 140/80 - 17 for the rear tire ?. This tire is 10mm wider than the stock 130/80 - 17 rear tire. Would appreciate any comments. Thanks. " Let's live to ride" TONY CORNETT wrote: Yes I rode with Kenda,s. Not a performance tire. For commuting or traveling high mileage. 16,000 miles on front over 10,000 on rear. Best part $74 for the set including California tax at Chaparrel. TC
----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 3:56 AM Subject: [DSN_klr650] tires > Hey riders, has anyone used the Kenda K761 rear tire, have one coming for > the A17 > Would like some opinions about wear/handling and such,I know it wont work to > good on the dirt, will be riding 95% street > tires used in the past > Dunlop D606 -has been a good tire for dirt? fair street tire last about 5000 > miles > Kenda K270 & K760 good tire for the $$ wear very fast on street/work great in > the dirt > Pirelli MT21 -would say a dirt only type tire/wont last long on street > Cheng shin C858 dirt only type tire/a hand full on rain slick roads > Cheng shin C6006 fair tire/wont last to long on street > Duro HF904 wears and acts like the stock tire > Metzeler KAROO trying this one out when the dunlop D606 wears out > Avon AM24 gripster, friend has one and swears by it, I don't know, not enough > seat time to tell yet > Thanks for your time > JD > A-1 > A-17 > TT600 > KX 500 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Arden Kysely
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Post by Arden Kysely » Thu May 15, 2003 12:55 pm

While it's usually OK to run tubes in tubeless tires, you might want to check on the Metzeler web site or call them to make sure it's OK with that brand. I know that Continental approves the use of tubes with their tubeless TCK-80's. You can use the same size tubes as you have in your stock tires. If the tubes are in good shape, you can use the same tubes. Or buy new ones and save the old ones as spares. __Arden --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, chrishan gunasekara wrote:
> It's almost time for me to change the tires in my KLR 650. I have
clocked in 14,700 miles on the stock tires, I might be able to get about another 2K on the rear and probably another 5K on the front tire. I am thinking about the Metzeler-Tourance tires as the replacement ones.
> > Has any of you riders tried the Metzeler-Tourance tires ? If so
what I would like to know is, since the Metzelers I have seen are tubeless tires, is there a Metzeler-Tourance that is built to take an inner tube ? If the tubeless tires were used with a tube, what size should the tubes be for the front and rear respectively (in other words is tube size differant from the stock tubes ? and is it OK to use inner tubes in a tubeless tire ?) ?
> > Also another question is has anybody experimented with using a > 140/80 - 17 for the rear tire ?. This tire is 10mm wider than the
stock 130/80 - 17 rear tire.
> > Would appreciate any comments. Thanks. > > " Let's live to ride" > > > > TONY CORNETT wrote: > Yes I rode with Kenda,s. Not a performance tire. For commuting or
traveling
> high mileage. 16,000 miles on front over 10,000 on rear. Best part
$74 for
> the set including California tax at Chaparrel. TC > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 3:56 AM > Subject: [DSN_klr650] tires > > > > Hey riders, has anyone used the Kenda K761 rear tire, have one
coming for
> > the A17 > > Would like some opinions about wear/handling and such,I know it
wont work
> to > > good on the dirt, will be riding 95% street > > tires used in the past > > Dunlop D606 -has been a good tire for dirt? fair street tire last
about
> 5000 > > miles > > Kenda K270 & K760 good tire for the $$ wear very fast on
street/work great
> in > > the dirt > > Pirelli MT21 -would say a dirt only type tire/wont last long on
street
> > Cheng shin C858 dirt only type tire/a hand full on rain slick
roads
> > Cheng shin C6006 fair tire/wont last to long on street > > Duro HF904 wears and acts like the stock tire > > Metzeler KAROO trying this one out when the dunlop D606 wears out > > Avon AM24 gripster, friend has one and swears by it, I don't
know, not
> enough > > seat time to tell yet > > Thanks for your time > > JD > > A-1 > > A-17 > > TT600 > > KX 500 > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List
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Don Bittle
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Post by Don Bittle » Mon May 19, 2003 3:29 pm

Follow-up on my possible purchase of a KLR. I've been thinking of having the dealer take off the original tires in favor of Dunlop, Michelin, or Metzler's for better off road traction. Would I be out of line to suggest this to my dealer? Will full knobbies kick out too much on curves? Thanks. don [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Devon Jarvis
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Post by Devon Jarvis » Mon May 19, 2003 4:56 pm

Don Bittle wrote:
> > Follow-up on my possible purchase of a KLR. > I've been thinking of having the dealer take off the original tires in favor of Dunlop, Michelin, or Metzler's for better off road traction. > Would I be out of line to suggest this to my dealer? > Will full knobbies kick out too much on curves? > Thanks. > don >
Until I got my KLR in May '01 I had never ridden a motorcycle with knobbies, nor ever ridden offroad (12 years of streetbikes). It definitely took some getting used to, even just the stock tires. They don't kick out so much as they "creep" under hard cornering as the knobs bend. It's nice because lowside slides happen in slow motion, with lots of warning and time to save it. Front wheel slides are also more gradual. I'm using a D606 front and a K760 rear- I like this since the rear creeps more than the front, making the bike oversteer when you gas it in a turn. Serious DOT knobbies are a HUGE departure from something like the Avon Super Venoms I have on my SR500. Street tires retain all of their traction until you overdo it and they let go, all at once. Knobbies (on the street) start to creep, howl, wiggle, etc. way before they finally let go. Much easier to ride hard and slide around on. I don't know if your dealer will give you much in exchange for the stock tires, if not then wear them out first. A couple of rides offroad on stock tires will have you accepting the compromises of DOT knobbies without question. Consider Pirelli MT21s. Devon A15 -- "It's a troublesome world, all the people who are in it, are troubled with troubles almost every minute" Dr. Seuss

Bogdan Swider
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Post by Bogdan Swider » Mon May 19, 2003 5:20 pm

> I don't know if your dealer will give you much in exchange > for the stock tires, if not then wear them out first. >
I agree with Devon. The stock tires are a good way to get used to a dual sport in general and the klr in particular. Bogdan, who knows that life is full of compromises but still hates it. Had to decide between Avon Slipsters - nice ride to Moab, tough going on dirt and slow going on gravel when I get there - or the Taiwanese specials, Kenda 270s - horrid 350 mile ride to Moab and then back but more confidence on the local rides. Chose to mount the Avons this past Saturday. It'll give me an excuse to bullshit more and ride less. It'll be super hot anyway

RM
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Post by RM » Mon May 19, 2003 6:25 pm

On Mon, 19 May 2003, Devon Jarvis wrote:
>Serious DOT knobbies are a HUGE departure from something like the Avon >Super Venoms I have on my SR500. Street tires retain all of their >traction until you overdo it and they let go, all at once. Knobbies (on >the street) start to creep, howl, wiggle, etc. way before they finally >let go. Much easier to ride hard and slide around on.
IMHO, the only truly dangerous thing about knobbies is the front braking, and that gets better once the knobs round-off a bit. I'm running a Dunlop K490 intermediate/hard condition MX knobby on the front, and my KLR's pipsqueak front brake can't even begin to lock it up. RM

batteryparkband
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Post by batteryparkband » Sun Aug 24, 2003 11:18 pm

I wanted to keep all these subjects separate, so sorry if this is so many Q's. The DPO bought the KLR650 for tight trails and consequently sold it. It now has monster knobbies on it and I am already ready to get a decent dual purpose tire. 75% street/commuter would be great. Any suggestions? Thanks. -j.

Doug Pippin
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Post by Doug Pippin » Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:41 am

I've read a lot about tires on the list recently so I thought I'd ask a question. I'll be looking for tires for my new to me A16 soon. It still has the stock tires on and the rear is wearing quickly and I'm not pleased with the off road traction. I've used Maxxis M6006 70/30 dual sport tires previously on an XR350 and found them to be a good compromise. Decent traction on the road and decent in the dirt except for mud. Just inquiring to see if anyone has had experience with these tires on the KLR or other recommendations. Doug ---------- Doug Pippin 828-684-8488 dpippin5@... ---------- [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Fireman Ed
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Post by Fireman Ed » Mon Nov 17, 2003 2:40 pm

I had them on my A17 after frying the stocker. I used one on the rear for Enduraid, and rode all the way to Deals gap and back after that. I got about 7000 miles out of that tire before putting on GP110's. Although it howls a lot on the hiway, I think I'll go back to the c6006 on the rear, and keep the IRC on the front next change. Fireman Ed A17 --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Doug Pippin wrote: > I've read a lot about tires on the list recently so I thought I'd ask a > question. > I'll be looking for tires for my new to me A16 soon. > It still has the stock tires on and the rear is wearing quickly and I'm not > pleased with the off road traction. > > I've used Maxxis M6006 70/30 dual sport tires previously on an XR350 and > found them to be a good compromise. > Decent traction on the road and decent in the dirt except for mud. > > Just inquiring to see if anyone has had experience with these tires on the > KLR or other recommendations. > > Doug > > > ---------- > Doug Pippin > 828-684-8488 > dpippin5@b... > > ---------- > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]