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[Jeffrey]

this is what I meant by factory engine; they are always avail. and usually with low miles: Item image Kawasaki KLR KLR650 ENGINE MOTOR VIDEOS VIDEOS OF A RUNNING BIKE INSIDE! Location: Ohio Watch this item Buy It Now $899.95 +$287.63 shipping Time left:16d 17h 5m Item image 09 Kawasaki KLR650 KLR 650 engine / motor 94779 Location: California Watch this item Buy It Now or Best Offer $1,000.00 +$150.00 shipping Time left:6d 2h 50m Item image 07 Kawasaki KLR650 KLR ENGINE MOTOR -VIDEOS Location: Ohio Watch this item 0 Bids Buy It Now $699.95 $899.95 Time left:6h 13m

[spike55_bmw]

I'm just back from putting the final 300 miles on a rebore & rings break-in. All good. I think I gave some PA bear hunters a view of an alternate reality: sit by the road waiting to shoot a bear (rarely happens by the road - WTF?), or get a KLR and pound it through the twisties with significant elevation changes. I have no axe to grind on the 685cc kit but you might get a good seal by only overboring the cylinder by 0.5 mm or 1.00 mm, which are supported by OEM Kawi parts (approx same price as 685). The 685 cc kit requires you to take away 2.00 mm, and if the break-in procedure gets screwed up, you are now backed into a corner - what is your next move - 705cc = $$$ for a new cylinder liner? I agree with Jeff that a bad cylinder / ring seal could be the fault of the machine shop, the assembly, the break-in procedure, even bad valve seals (nothing to do with the machine shop, assembly, or break-in but it'll cost you time and a head gasket). I saw a Texan KLR on the Bonneville Salt Flats that was running a 751 cc kit. I guess there is life after the 705. Don R100, A6F

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 00:21:12 -0000 "Robert Kochen" > writes: > > Gentlemen, I own a 2008 "oil burner" apparently and am looking for > > general info on the 685 modification. Is there a good source for > > this info? The little I've read so far seems to indcate this is a > > positive upgrade and generally fixes the oil issue. > > > > RJ Kochen > <><><><><><>> ><><><><><><> > Robert, > > I'll suggest the 685 does generally stop oil use issues. I think the > exceptions are just that, exceptions. And I would question the machining > and or assembly in every one of the two or three exceptions I've heard > about. > > My KLR685 doesn't use oil. I did my own cylinder boring and had a very > good friend with thousands of cylinder honings under his belt do my final > sizing for piston to cylinder fit. We followed the directions from > Schnitz. > > I think you could find more info at www.klr650.net and use the search > function near the top to search for 685. Any info you see about the 685 > from wymanwinn can be held as gospel. He's maybe done the most 685 kits > of anyone in the world. I thinks he's down to doing one in less than 3 > hours now. > > The big difference I can tell on my KLR when changing from the 650 to 685 > is it went from lawnmower smooth to sewing machine smooth. It was that > noticeable to me. There is a bit more power but not enough to shout > about in my opinion. > > As a side note... If I was installing a 685 kit I would add a ThermoBob > at the same time. You can find more about the ThermoBob at > www.klr650.net too. Use the search function. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads.org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > > . > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! > http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 >

[Red Rock]

I have an early '08 KLR with over 22,500 miles and have no problems with it. If I did stupid things that it was not designed to do like drive 85 mph all day I would expect problems. If I tried to ride it under water I would also expect problems. [b]From:[/b] Jeffrey [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Mon, November 22, 2010 12:56:30 PM [b]Subject:[/b] RE: [DSN_KLR650] 685 kit   With the 16T front sprocket, you can run your KLR at 85 mph all day without any problems except traffic, cops, obstacles. I don't understand why anyone would buy an early 08 unless it already had the oil problem fixed. I have seen so many low mile pre-08s CHEAP ON craigslist and on Ebay if you are predisposed to more dirt than street. If you are more street, 09s and 10s are the way to go. A GOOD RUNNING FACTORY ENGINE IS BETTER/EASIER THAN INSTALLING THE 685 KIT. GOOD USED ENGINES ESP. PRE-08 ARE WIDELY AVAILABLE TOO FOR ABOUT THE SAME PRICE AND FAR LESS HASSLE. Remember, there is a winter discount on used KLRs and parts now. Jeffrey #3 I don't think the KLR was ever designed to run at 85 mph for long distances........ JM2C Bob 09

[Bob K]

Ditto dude........

 Bob 09   To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com From: red.rock47@... Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:45:01 -0800 Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] 685 kit   I have an early '08 KLR with over 22,500 miles and have no problems with it. If I did stupid things that it was not designed to do like drive 85 mph all day I would expect problems. If I tried to ride it under water I would also expect problems. [b]From:[/b] Jeffrey [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Mon, November 22, 2010 12:56:30 PM [b]Subject:[/b] RE: [DSN_KLR650] 685 kit  

With the 16T front sprocket, you can run your KLR at 85 mph all day without any problems except traffic, cops, obstacles. I don't understand why anyone would buy an early 08 unless it already had the oil problem fixed. I have seen so many low mile pre-08s CHEAP ON craigslist and on Ebay if you are predisposed to more dirt than street. If you are more street, 09s and 10s are the way to go. A GOOD RUNNING FACTORY ENGINE IS BETTER/EASIER THAN INSTALLING THE 685 KIT. GOOD USED ENGINES ESP. PRE-08 ARE WIDELY AVAILABLE TOO FOR ABOUT THE SAME PRICE AND FAR LESS HASSLE. Remember, there is a winter discount on used KLRs and parts now. Jeffrey #3 I don't think the KLR was ever designed to run at 85 mph for long distances........ 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[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "roncriswell@..." wrote:

> > Not necessarily. A friend put the 685 on his and it still burns oil. Seems like he said a quart every 1000 miles. He is fixing to pull it apart again. He is very experienced rebuilding engines so I don't think his work is the problem. Seems like he said this is at running it at 85 mph for long distances. > > Criswell

Oil burner? Under the conditions described, why should we be surprised at the historical, verifiable outcome? My bike(s) burn little/no oil at 5K rpm. They all 'lose' oil at 5.5/6K+ rpms when run for sustained time/distance. revmaaatin.

[revmaaatin]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Red Rock wrote:

> > I have an early '08 KLR with over 22,500 miles and have no problems with it. If > I did stupid things that it was not designed to do like drive 85 mph all day I > would expect problems. If I tried to ride it under water I would also expect > problems. >

and the KLR choir said, A-Men. revmaaatin.

[guymanbro]

> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Red Rock wrote: > > > > I have an early '08 KLR with over 22,500 miles and have no problems with it. If > > I did stupid things that it was not designed to do like drive 85 mph all day I > > would expect problems. If I tried to ride it under water I would also expect > > problems.

Stupid things and motorcycles are like ice cream and an Oreo cookie. Besides, if you don't ride the KLR underwater, how is it ever going to get washed? da Vermonster (who consistently rides at 85+mph with 14/45 gearing and regularly submerges the beast up to the the top of the rear wheel. The only thing stupid about it is not checking the oil levels after high speed runs, and trying to start the thing when it's still under water. Momentum and Maintenance, that's my Mantra)

[RJ Kochen]

Message I spoke with a motorcycle mechanic a few days ago regarding the 685 mod and he was well aware of it and has done them. He has owned multiple KLR's so when time and dollars permit I'll likely take it on.   Thanks for all the different points of view. Mostly a consensus that it's a good mod. Memo to me: Don't ride it 85mph all day and don't ride it underwater. RJ Kochen 08 Kawasaki KLR650   *   99 BMW R1100rt IBA   *   BMWMOA   *   KCBMWMC  *  KC HOAME Club   *   AMA   *   RomeoRiders

[Mike Hilton]

Better be Thankful that you have a "Good One."  It is not because of how you drive or don't drive, there are just some defects. Mike H.  

----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] red.rock47@... [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, November 22, 2010 5:45 PM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [DSN_KLR650] 685 kit   I have an early '08 KLR with over 22,500 miles and have no problems with it. If I did stupid things that it was not designed to do like drive 85 mph all day I would expect problems. If I tried to ride it under water I would also expect problems. [b]From:[/b] Jeffrey [b]To:[/b] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Mon, November 22, 2010 12:56:30 PM [b]Subject:[/b] RE: [DSN_KLR650] 685 kit  

With the 16T front sprocket, you can run your KLR at 85 mph all day without any problems except traffic, cops, obstacles. I don't understand why anyone would buy an early 08 unless it already had the oil problem fixed. I have seen so many low mile pre-08s CHEAP ON craigslist and on Ebay if you are predisposed to more dirt than street. If you are more street, 09s and 10s are the way to go. A GOOD RUNNING FACTORY ENGINE IS BETTER/EASIER THAN INSTALLING THE 685 KIT. GOOD USED ENGINES ESP. PRE-08 ARE WIDELY AVAILABLE TOO FOR ABOUT THE SAME PRICE AND FAR LESS HASSLE. Remember, there is a winter discount on used KLRs and parts now. Jeffrey #3 I don't think the KLR was ever designed to run at 85 mph for long distances........ JM2C Bob 09

[Mike Huber]

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 13:28:08 +0000 Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: 685 kit Stupid things and motorcycles are like ice cream and an Oreo cookie. Besides, if you don't ride the KLR underwater, how is it ever going to get washed? da Vermonster (who consistently rides at 85+mph with 14/45 gearing and regularly submerges the beast up to the the top of the rear wheel. The only thing stupid about it is not checking the oil levels after high speed runs, and trying to start the thing when it's still under water. 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