> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , trailsunltd@... wrote: > > > > again, how do YOU determine when a chain is worn and needs > > replacing,wait till it breaks?,get stranded? i don't know ,is this some > > kind of chain mileage contest?,i stated how i determine when to replace > > a chain,then i replace it,i don't shoot for a certain mileage,when it's > > worn out,that's it,i hit some remote places and i'm not guessing on the > > chains cond. > > > > > > Is this a troll? > > Without something to suggest that your snake oil might make my chain > last longer than the > snake oil I use, I have no reason to use anything else. If you want to > persist with a regimen > that wears your chains out sooner, please feel free. > >
please forgive me! oily mess -nklrish
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I think he really wants to know how to tell when a chain
and sprockets are worn to the point that they need to be
replaced. I started to write something but it was turning
into more of a novel.
I even tried to find pictures of a worn sprocket, but struck
out (and I consider myself pretty good at finding stuff online).
The best way is to have someone in the know show you - it
is easy to see when you know what you are looking for.
A picture is worth 1000 words.
A real life view is worth more.
Jud Jones wrote:
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ok jud, you win,you been smoking that WD? i'll get some and try it in
my pipe,seems to work for you ok
-----Original Message-----
From: Jud Jones
To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 6:40 pm
Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Chain Lube - Squeak Question
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, trailsunltd@... wrote: > > again, how do YOU determine when a chain is worn and needs > replacing,wait till it breaks?,get stranded? i don't know ,is this some > kind of chain mileage contest?,i stated how i determine when to replace > a chain,then i replace it,i don't shoot for a certain mileage,when it's > worn out,that's it,i hit some remote places and i'm not guessing on the > chains cond. > > Is this a troll? Without something to suggest that your snake oil might make my chain last longer than the snake oil I use, I have no reason to use anything else. If you want to persist with a regimen that wears your chains out sooner, please feel free.
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--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "aphampton628"
wrote:
Yes, the Feds now require them to break down "Stoddard solvent" into "Aliphatic" and "LVP Aliphatic" Hydrocarbon rather than saying "Stoddard solvent" as they'd been saying on their MDS until a couple of years ago. But it's still Stoddard solvent, like it's been for the last 50 years. Looks like I was off on the percentages slightly, the jugs are 65% and the cans are 75% Stoddard solvent with the rest mostly being light machine oil. Oh well. Still nothing magical about WD-40 pro or con. Since it's largely a solvent it's good for cleaning chains, while the light machine oil will keep the chain from rusting until you put something heavier on the chain. As I stated earlier my only beef with WD-40 is that it washes off too easily in the rain, resulting in a rusty chain if you ride in the rain. As far as lubrication goes, nothing you apply to the outside of a chain is worth a bucket of warm spit as a lubricant since anything you apply to the outside of the chain would just get squeezed out of the loaded surfaces (there is no -- zero -- lubricant which does *not* get squeezed out of loading surfaces, otherwise we wouldn't need an oil pumping system in our KLR's and we wouldn't need o-rings to hold the lube inside the chain, we'd just coat all the surfaces with this magic lube!), so there's no lubrication difference between WD-40 and any other "chain lube" you apply to the outside of your motorcycle's chain. Whatever you're spraying on your chain is being sprayed there for two reasons -- rust-proofing, and to keep the o-rings conditioned. That's it.> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "E.L. Green" wrote: > > WD-40 is Stoddard solvent and light machine oil with a bit of perfume > > added to make it smell like, well, WD-40. Nothing particularly > > special, magic, or snake-oilish about it. > > WD-40 Aerosol > > http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf/msds-wd494716385.pdf > > > WD-40 Bulk Liquid > > http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf/msds-wd482671453.pdf
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so sprockets need no lubrication? say an 18 wheeler tractor driver
sprays? WD40 on his 5th wheel instead of his grease,there would be no
difference
-----Original Message-----
From: E.L. Green
To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 7:09 pm
Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Chain Lube - Squeak Question
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "aphampton628"
wrote:
perfume> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "E.L. Green" wrote: > > WD-40 is Stoddard solvent and light machine oil with a bit of
Yes, the Feds now require them to break down "Stoddard solvent" into "Aliphatic" and "LVP Aliphatic" Hydrocarbon rather than saying "Stoddard solvent" as they'd been saying on their MDS until a couple of years ago. But it's still Stoddard solvent, like it's been for the last 50 years. Looks like I was off on the percentages slightly, the jugs are 65% and the cans are 75% Stoddard solvent with the rest mostly being light machine oil. Oh well. Still nothing magical about WD-40 pro or con. Since it's largely a solvent it's good for cleaning chains, while the light machine oil will keep the chain from rusting until you put something heavier on the chain. As I stated earlier my only beef with WD-40 is that it washes off too easily in the rain, resulting in a rusty chain if you ride in the rain. As far as lubrication goes, nothing you apply to the outside of a chain is worth a bucket of warm spit as a lubricant since anything you apply to the outside of the chain would just get squeezed out of the loaded surfaces (there is no -- zero -- lubricant which does *not* get squeezed out of loading surfaces, otherwise we wouldn't need an oil pumping system in our KLR's and we wouldn't need o-rings to hold the lube inside the chain, we'd just coat all the surfaces with this magic lube!), so there's no lubrication difference between WD-40 and any other "chain lube" you apply to the outside of your motorcycle's chain. Whatever you're spraying on your chain is being sprayed there for two reasons -- rust-proofing, and to keep the o-rings conditioned. That's it.> > added to make it smell like, well, WD-40. Nothing particularly > > special, magic, or snake-oilish about it. > > WD-40 Aerosol > > http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf/msds-wd494716385.pdf > > > WD-40 Bulk Liquid > > http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf/msds-wd482671453.pdf
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--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, trailsunltd@... wrote:
So in addition to dodging the issue, you give us a faulty analogy? How many miles do you get out of your chains?> > so sprockets need no lubrication? say an 18 wheeler tractor driver > sprays? WD40 on his 5th wheel instead of his grease,there would be no > difference > >
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Ohh, that one is arguable, but I ran out of time.......
E.L. Green wrote:

> > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > , "aphampton628" > > As far as lubrication goes, nothing you apply to the outside of a > chain is worth a bucket of warm spit as a lubricant since anything you > apply to the outside of the chain would just get squeezed out of the > loaded surfaces > >
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After wading through all threads I was feeling left out so why not add my own "facts" --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Jud Jones wrote:
From: Jud Jones
Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Chain Lube - Squeak Question
To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com
Received: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 8:41 PM
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, trailsunltd@ ... wrote:
>
> so sprockets need no lubrication? say an 18 wheeler tractor driver
> sprays? WD40 on his 5th wheel instead of his grease,there would be no
> difference
>
>
So in addition to dodging the issue, you give us a faulty analogy? How many miles do you
get out of your chains?
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