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[Craig Kahler]

Here in Virginia, we are still morning the loss of 32 lives at Virginia Tech. For the safty of the students, VT strictly prohibits the possession of firearms by adult students and professors who possess concealed handgun permits. There were hundreds of people in that engineering building, but only the shooter was armed. We need more freedom to defend ourselves, not more "reasonable" gun cuntrol. Craig Kahler Fredericksburg, VA fasteddiecopeman wrote: Don, Respectfully - you were a victim of PEOPLE violence, and the person used an ILLEGALLY OBTAINED GUN! (Unless insane people are legally allowed to buy guns?) All the best. Ed

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Spike55" wrote: > > As a victim of gun violence (legally purchased by an insane person), > I'll never be a member of the "gun in every pocket" NRA. The > extremes is what hurts the reasonable solution of any issue / > situation. BTW, I don't belong to AARP either, which is > another "extremest group" like the NRA. > > Don R100, A6F --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Scott St. Hillier]

All studies show that allowing concealed carry of a weapon reduces crime and violence - from someone who lives in Florida. A fellow klrestia... On Thu, 31 May 2007 16:09:16 -0700 (PDT), "Craig Kahler" said:

> Here in Virginia, we are still morning the loss of 32 lives at Virginia > Tech. For the safty of the students, VT strictly prohibits the possession > of firearms by adult students and professors who possess concealed > handgun permits. There were hundreds of people in that engineering > building, but only the shooter was armed. We need more freedom to defend > ourselves, not more "reasonable" gun cuntrol. > > Craig Kahler > Fredericksburg, VA > > fasteddiecopeman wrote: > Don, > Respectfully - you were a victim of PEOPLE violence, and the person > used an ILLEGALLY OBTAINED GUN! (Unless insane people are legally > allowed to buy guns?) > All the best. > Ed > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Spike55" wrote: > > > > As a victim of gun violence (legally purchased by an insane person), > > I'll never be a member of the "gun in every pocket" NRA. The > > extremes is what hurts the reasonable solution of any issue / > > situation. BTW, I don't belong to AARP either, which is > > another "extremest group" like the NRA. > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels > in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

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[Spike55]

So which one of you would have shot your gun-toting and crazed mother / father, son / daughter, husband / wife??? Most of the time, this crap happens at home with a family member. You better off being a clear-headed negotiator rather than an armed bad-a**. Don R100, A6F --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Scott St. Hillier" wrote:

> > All studies show that allowing concealed carry of a weapon reduces

crime

> and violence - from someone who lives in Florida. > > A fellow klrestia... > > On Thu, 31 May 2007 16:09:16 -0700 (PDT), "Craig Kahler" > said: > > Here in Virginia, we are still morning the loss of 32 lives at

Virginia

> > Tech. For the safty of the students, VT strictly prohibits the

possession

> > of firearms by adult students and professors who possess concealed > > handgun permits. There were hundreds of people in that engineering > > building, but only the shooter was armed. We need more freedom to

defend

> > ourselves, not more "reasonable" gun cuntrol. > > > > Craig Kahler > > Fredericksburg, VA > > > > fasteddiecopeman wrote: > > Don, > > Respectfully - you were a victim of PEOPLE violence, and the

person

> > used an ILLEGALLY OBTAINED GUN! (Unless insane people are legally > > allowed to buy guns?) > > All the best. > > Ed > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Spike55" wrote: > > > > > > As a victim of gun violence (legally purchased by an insane

person),

> > > I'll never be a member of the "gun in every pocket" NRA. The > > > extremes is what hurts the reasonable solution of any issue / > > > situation. BTW, I don't belong to AARP either, which is > > > another "extremest group" like the NRA. > > > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels > > in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- >

[usa1911a1]

Ok, with that logic, no kitchen knives, baseball bats, crowbars, ice picks, hammers, hatchets, water pipes, tree chippers, rope, plastic bags, rat poison, automobiles. The problem is the human behind the weapon, not the inanimate object. Life is beautiful and risky. It is imperfect because the only perfect thing is God. For the unbeliever, life is the closest thing to heaven. For the believer, life is the closest thing to hell. You choose. , Capt. Bob in Durham, CT. USA "Old Geezer Club Member 61" http://www.essexsteamtrain.com/ http://seniorbiker.blogspot.com 2006 A6F KLR Green Tires: Mefo 99 Explorers Country roads (20% dirt), dual tracks. NY State and Northern New England

----- Original Message ----- From: Spike55 To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:50 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re:NKLR Geezer So which one of you would have shot your gun-toting and crazed mother / father, son / daughter, husband / wife??? Most of the time, this crap happens at home with a family member. You better off being a clear-headed negotiator rather than an armed bad-a**. Don R100, A6F --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Scott St. Hillier" wrote: > > All studies show that allowing concealed carry of a weapon reduces crime > and violence - from someone who lives in Florida. > > A fellow klrestia... > > On Thu, 31 May 2007 16:09:16 -0700 (PDT), "Craig Kahler" > said: > > Here in Virginia, we are still morning the loss of 32 lives at Virginia > > Tech. For the safty of the students, VT strictly prohibits the possession > > of firearms by adult students and professors who possess concealed > > handgun permits. There were hundreds of people in that engineering > > building, but only the shooter was armed. We need more freedom to defend > > ourselves, not more "reasonable" gun cuntrol. > > > > Craig Kahler > > Fredericksburg, VA > > > > fasteddiecopeman wrote: > > Don, > > Respectfully - you were a victim of PEOPLE violence, and the person > > used an ILLEGALLY OBTAINED GUN! (Unless insane people are legally > > allowed to buy guns?) > > All the best. > > Ed > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Spike55" wrote: > > > > > > As a victim of gun violence (legally purchased by an insane person), > > > I'll never be a member of the "gun in every pocket" NRA. The > > > extremes is what hurts the reasonable solution of any issue / > > > situation. BTW, I don't belong to AARP either, which is > > > another "extremest group" like the NRA. > > > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels > > in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Randall Marbach]

Don't forget gasoline.. lots of people in this neck of the woods perished in intentionally set gasoline fires. From a previous post, I now know what a 1911a1 is... cool. I have an AMT 45ACP Hardballer... hard to conceal here in CA... My NAA minimag would be more appriopriate for that... but don't tell the leaders of the great nanny state of Kalifornia. All hail hilary( and barbara and dianne) "From those according to their ability, to those according to thier need"... ..crap.. Randy from Burbank god bless Ronald Reagan ----- Original Message ---- From: usa1911a1 To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com; Spike55 Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 9:16:30 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re:NKLR Geezer Ok, with that logic, no kitchen knives, baseball bats, crowbars, ice picks, hammers, hatchets, water pipes, tree chippers, rope, plastic bags, rat poison, automobiles. The problem is the human behind the weapon, not the inanimate object. Life is beautiful and risky. It is imperfect because the only perfect thing is God. For the unbeliever, life is the closest thing to heaven. For the believer, life is the closest thing to hell. You choose. , Capt. Bob in Durham, CT. USA "Old Geezer Club Member 61" http://www.essexsteamtrain.com/ http://seniorbiker.blogspot.com 2006 A6F KLR Green Tires: Mefo 99 Explorers Country roads (20% dirt), dual tracks. NY State and Northern New England

----- Original Message ----- From: Spike55 To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:50 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re:NKLR Geezer So which one of you would have shot your gun-toting and crazed mother / father, son / daughter, husband / wife??? Most of the time, this crap happens at home with a family member. You better off being a clear-headed negotiator rather than an armed bad-a**. Don R100, A6F --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Scott St. Hillier" wrote: > > All studies show that allowing concealed carry of a weapon reduces crime > and violence - from someone who lives in Florida. > > A fellow klrestia... > > On Thu, 31 May 2007 16:09:16 -0700 (PDT), "Craig Kahler" > said: > > Here in Virginia, we are still morning the loss of 32 lives at Virginia > > Tech. For the safty of the students, VT strictly prohibits the possession > > of firearms by adult students and professors who possess concealed > > handgun permits. There were hundreds of people in that engineering > > building, but only the shooter was armed. We need more freedom to defend > > ourselves, not more "reasonable" gun cuntrol. > > > > Craig Kahler > > Fredericksburg, VA > > > > fasteddiecopeman wrote: > > Don, > > Respectfully - you were a victim of PEOPLE violence, and the person > > used an ILLEGALLY OBTAINED GUN! (Unless insane people are legally > > allowed to buy guns?) > > All the best. > > Ed > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Spike55" wrote: > > > > > > As a victim of gun violence (legally purchased by an insane person), > > > I'll never be a member of the "gun in every pocket" NRA. The > > > extremes is what hurts the reasonable solution of any issue / > > > situation. BTW, I don't belong to AARP either, which is > > > another "extremest group" like the NRA. > > > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels > > in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > -- > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 Yahoo! Groups Links ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase. http://farechase.yahoo.com/

[Herm Halbach]

We cannot ever legislate, and enforce such legislation, that would intend to remove all objects that can be used to hurt or kill. We can feasibly accept the responsibility to learn how to properly use any object but not all of us will choose to put out the effort. Family and community can take the responsibility to teach their children to take responsibility in their adult use of drugs, weapons, vehicles, alcohol, power tools, and ... . We will never be safe if we give away full responsibility of our lives to legislators, courts, church officials, firemen, police officers, and our military. Those services can be used constructively just as any other assets available to us such as; drugs, weapons, vehicles, alcohol, power tools, and ... . All assets are only as good as we know how to use them and how much we choose to acknowledge our responsibility to the results from using them. Herm "Paint" A15 Year of Birth 1944 At 09:16 PM 5/31/2007, you wrote:

>Ok, with that logic, no kitchen knives, baseball bats, crowbars, ice >picks, hammers, hatchets, water pipes, tree chippers, rope, plastic >bags, rat poison, automobiles. > >The problem is the human behind the weapon, not the inanimate >object. Life is beautiful and risky. It is imperfect because the >only perfect thing is God. For the unbeliever, life is the closest >thing to heaven. For the believer, life is the closest thing to >hell. You choose. > >, >Capt. Bob in Durham, CT. USA >"Old Geezer Club Member 61" >http://www.essexsteamtrain.com/>http://www.essexsteamtrain.com/ >http://seniorbiker.blogspot.com >2006 A6F KLR Green >Tires: Mefo 99 Explorers >Country roads (20% dirt), dual tracks. NY State and Northern New England > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Spike55 >To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:50 PM >Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re:NKLR Geezer > >So which one of you would have shot your gun-toting and crazed >mother / father, son / daughter, husband / wife??? Most of the time, >this crap happens at home with a family member. You better off being >a clear-headed negotiator rather than an armed bad-a**. > >Don R100, A6F > >--- In >DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, >"Scott St. Hillier" >wrote: > > > > All studies show that allowing concealed carry of a weapon reduces >crime > > and violence - from someone who lives in Florida. > > > > A fellow klrestia... > > > > On Thu, 31 May 2007 16:09:16 -0700 (PDT), "Craig Kahler" > > said: > > > Here in Virginia, we are still morning the loss of 32 lives at >Virginia > > > Tech. For the safty of the students, VT strictly prohibits the >possession > > > of firearms by adult students and professors who possess concealed > > > handgun permits. There were hundreds of people in that engineering > > > building, but only the shooter was armed. We need more freedom to >defend > > > ourselves, not more "reasonable" gun cuntrol. > > > > > > Craig Kahler > > > Fredericksburg, VA > > > > > > fasteddiecopeman wrote: > > > Don, > > > Respectfully - you were a victim of PEOPLE violence, and the >person > > > used an ILLEGALLY OBTAINED GUN! (Unless insane people are legally > > > allowed to buy guns?) > > > All the best. > > > Ed > > > --- In > DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, > "Spike55" wrote: > > > > > > > > As a victim of gun violence (legally purchased by an insane >person), > > > > I'll never be a member of the "gun in every pocket" NRA. The > > > > extremes is what hurts the reasonable solution of any issue / > > > > situation. BTW, I don't belong to AARP either, which is > > > > another "extremest group" like the NRA. > > > > > > > > Don R100, A6F

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[Kevin Burns]

Herm, Although I say Amen, Brother! to your statement, the problem is getting anyone today to accept responsibility for anything. This is how people are awarded millions of dollars for something as stupid as spilling a hot cup of coffee on themselves. Kevin Burns A17 KiLRoy Carson City, NV Old Geezer#51 (Associate Member) --- Herm Halbach wrote:

> We cannot ever legislate, and enforce such > legislation, that would > intend to remove all objects that can be used to > hurt or kill. We > can feasibly accept the responsibility to learn how > to properly use > any object but not all of us will choose to put out > the > effort. Family and community can take the > responsibility to teach > their children to take responsibility in their adult > use of drugs, > weapons, vehicles, alcohol, power tools, and ... . > We will never be > safe if we give away full responsibility of our > lives to legislators, > courts, church officials, firemen, police officers, > and our > military. Those services can be used constructively > just as any > other assets available to us such as; drugs, > weapons, vehicles, > alcohol, power tools, and ... . All assets are only > as good as we > know how to use them and how much we choose to > acknowledge our > responsibility to the results from using them. > > Herm > "Paint" A15 Year of Birth 1944 > > > At 09:16 PM 5/31/2007, you wrote: > > >Ok, with that logic, no kitchen knives, baseball > bats, crowbars, ice > >picks, hammers, hatchets, water pipes, tree > chippers, rope, plastic > >bags, rat poison, automobiles. > > > >The problem is the human behind the weapon, not the > inanimate > >object. Life is beautiful and risky. It is > imperfect because the > >only perfect thing is God. For the unbeliever, life > is the closest > >thing to heaven. For the believer, life is the > closest thing to > >hell. You choose. > > > >, > >Capt. Bob in Durham, CT. USA > >"Old Geezer Club Member 61" > >http://www.essexsteamtrain.com/>http://www.essexsteamtrain.com/ > >http://seniorbiker.blogspot.com > >2006 A6F KLR Green > >Tires: Mefo 99 Explorers > >Country roads (20% dirt), dual tracks. NY State and > Northern New England > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Spike55 > >To: >

DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com

> >Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 11:50 PM > >Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re:NKLR Geezer > > > >So which one of you would have shot your gun-toting > and crazed > >mother / father, son / daughter, husband / wife??? > Most of the time, > >this crap happens at home with a family member. You > better off being > >a clear-headed negotiator rather than an armed > bad-a**. > > > >Don R100, A6F > > > >--- In > >DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, > > >"Scott St. Hillier" > >wrote: > > > > > > All studies show that allowing concealed carry > of a weapon reduces > >crime > > > and violence - from someone who lives in > Florida. > > > > > > A fellow klrestia... > > > > > > On Thu, 31 May 2007 16:09:16 -0700 (PDT), "Craig > Kahler" > > > said: > > > > Here in Virginia, we are still morning the > loss of 32 lives at > >Virginia > > > > Tech. For the safty of the students, VT > strictly prohibits the > >possession > > > > of firearms by adult students and professors > who possess concealed > > > > handgun permits. There were hundreds of people > in that engineering > > > > building, but only the shooter was armed. We > need more freedom to > >defend > > > > ourselves, not more "reasonable" gun cuntrol. > > > > > > > > Craig Kahler > > > > Fredericksburg, VA > > > > > > > > fasteddiecopeman wrote: > > > > Don, > > > > Respectfully - you were a victim of PEOPLE > violence, and the > >person > > > > used an ILLEGALLY OBTAINED GUN! (Unless insane > people are legally > > > > allowed to buy guns?) > > > > All the best. > > > > Ed > > > > --- In > > >

DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com,

> > > "Spike55" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > As a victim of gun violence (legally > purchased by an insane > >person), > > > > > I'll never be a member of the "gun in every > pocket" NRA. The > > > > > extremes is what hurts the reasonable > solution of any issue / > > > > > situation. BTW, I don't belong to AARP > either, which is > > > > > another "extremest group" like the NRA. > > > > > > > > > > Don R100, A6F > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > >

[Jacobus De Bruyn]

Plasic bags, knives, hammers, screwdrivers have another purpose or idea behind them. Guns have only one aim: to kill. So if I carry a gun around I have to be prepared to kill. If you are not ready for that, don t. And guns make killing too easy, from far away, you don t have to look into their eyes, and hear their screams, same for suicide, cowardly easy with a gun, as I have witnessed. It would be nice to live in a world without evil. It is everyone s personal decision, depending on circumstances and beliefs. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/

[James Morrow Sr]

"Guns have only one aim: to kill" You sound like a Legislator. Obviously you are entirely wrong. Guns can be sporting. Guns can feed you. Guns can protect you without being fired, etc. Their biggest reason according to those that knew, They can make something that wants ABSOLUTE POWER over you, to think twice.

On 6/1/07, Jacobus De Bruyn wrote: > > > Plasic bags, knives, hammers, screwdrivers have > another purpose or idea behind them. Guns have only > one aim: to kill. So if I carry a gun around I have > to be prepared to kill. If you are not ready for > that, don t. And guns make killing too easy, from > far away, you don t have to look into their eyes, and > hear their screams, same for suicide, cowardly easy > with a gun, as I have witnessed. It would be nice to > live in a world without evil. It is everyone s > personal decision, depending on circumstances and beliefs. > > __________________________________________________________ > Need a vacation? Get great deals > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > http://travel.yahoo.com/ > > -- James Morrow Sr Union, MO '00' RT + dual plug + Bunkhouse '00' BUSA + 15hp '05' KLR650 + big fun factor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[tlh]

IS THIS HORSE DEAD???

----- Original Message ----- From: James Morrow Sr To: jacodebr7545@... Cc: usa1911a1 ; dsn_klr650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re:NKLR Geezer "Guns have only one aim: to kill" You sound like a Legislator. Obviously you are entirely wrong. Guns can be sporting. Guns can feed you. Guns can protect you without being fired, etc. Their biggest reason according to those that knew, They can make something that wants ABSOLUTE POWER over you, to think twice. On 6/1/07, Jacobus De Bruyn wrote: > > > Plasic bags, knives, hammers, screwdrivers have > another purpose or idea behind them. Guns have only > one aim: to kill. So if I carry a gun around I have > to be prepared to kill. If you are not ready for > that, don t. And guns make killing too easy, from > far away, you don t have to look into their eyes, and > hear their screams, same for suicide, cowardly easy > with a gun, as I have witnessed. It would be nice to > live in a world without evil. It is everyone s > personal decision, depending on circumstances and beliefs. > > __________________________________________________________ > Need a vacation? Get great deals > to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. > http://travel.yahoo.com/ > > -- James Morrow Sr Union, MO '00' RT + dual plug + Bunkhouse '00' BUSA + 15hp '05' KLR650 + big fun factor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]