asked service manager about doohickey failure

[C L Cooper]

Counselor, Sounds like you're a risk taker. I am willing to sell you, for a very reasonable finders fee, some of the finest products manufactured. Corvairs - just about any year - if the swing axle rear suspension didn't get you the gasoline fired cabin heater would (an option you had to pay extra for, but yes, gasoline fired!!!); VW's (to '69 were the worst) - I still find it very curious that Nader didn't go after that swing axle, neck brakin', mobile incendiary device; Several makes, models domestic and foreign vehicles that took the initiative to drop into either forward or reverse and/or accelerate of their own accord if/when motor mounts broke; Jeep Cherokees with fuel injected in-line 6 - at some point the fuel lines between the pump and port invariably deteriorate and leak fuel and set the darn thing on fire; Late model HumVee's - axle knuckle breaks - front wheels fall off ; Yugo - don't need to say any more; Celebrex - kills the pain, but has some nasty coronary side effects, etc., etc., etc.... It's an easy bet that ALL major manufacturers can tell you within less than one std deviation from a gnats arse (mean), at a 95% or better confidence level what warranty and related legal costs are going to be each year, and where their financial and political breakeven point is for any given product. They have legions of analysts, marketers, attorneys and paper pushers on staff (really unfortunate that some of the legal costs aren't spent on R&D). I applaud your - or your friends and family if you don't make it - resolve and willingness to take on such a well funded group. Given the litigious environment manufacturers operate in it's easy to see how, why all the innovation in cars, motorcycles, etc., comes from local manufacturers that design and develop "one-off" solutions to specific problems. The stock car, offroad, rally, etc., sport industry - the mechanics, machinists are the people that build and develop all the *really new stuff* that eventually rolls off the assembly lines. It's the Korky McMillans and the people they rely on that keep beating the factory race teams (damn the luck!). Keep at it people!!! Good luck on your next ride! Chuck C San Diego, CA

On 11/8/06, Hedrek wrote: > > > Being the proud owner of an 07 and a lawyer with lots > of lawyer friensd, I think I might just play this out > to the end and see who wins this game. Since they > deny any problem, I see no need to pay money and > invade my cases to fix a problem they say does not > exist (though witnesses abound to the contrary). Wish > me (and my heirs) luck on that big, high speed > doo-based crash that I barely/don't survive!! > > Curious to see if Big K fixed the doo for the newest > model. > > RH in ABQ! > > --- Mike Peplinski > > wrote: > > > Haven't you figured it out yet? There is really > > nothing wrong with the > > "doohickey", its all just a myth, a hoax, but with > > good intentions. By > > creating a scenario the KLRista draw in virtually > > all KLR riders with this > > one. The story has all the right stuff; its credible > > that there could be a > > "mystery component" in there that could be updated > > or completely eliminated, > > but the manufacturer refuses to acknowledge its > > existence; the consequences > > are horrendous-either the engine hand-grenades or > > shards of metal are > > irretrievably deposited in the corners of your > > otherwise well designed > > engine; the upgrade is not expensive but you must > > use special parts, not > > just OEM new ones, thereby creatinig an aftermarket > > industry; the repair > > takes more courage than skill. Its pretty much > > impossible to bungle the job > > but here is the coup-de-gras, after completing the > > work you will have bonded > > with an otherwise mundane, trouble free machine. You > > will be willing, heck > > you'll be eager to adjust the valves, grease the > > swing arm, fiddle with the > > carb, after taking those engine sidecase off. You'll > > wear a 'green badge of > > courage" for undertaking this life saving operation > > and can now join the > > campfire and say, with pride, "I replaced my > > doohickey". > > In case you're wondering, yes I did replace mine. > > Want to see my badge? Do > > it. you'll sleep better. > > > > > > >From: Ronald Criswell > > > > >To: Terry Taylor > > > >CC: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > > >Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: Asked Service Manager > > about doohickey failure > > >Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:36:19 -0600 > > > > > >I met a guy in Big Bend Ntl Park last week > > (actually 4 other KLR's). > > >He showed me his broke one. Most people I know that > > have ridden these > > >very long have either found a broken one or the > > spring is broken. I'd > > >say at least half of them. > > > > > >Criswell > > >On Nov 8, 2006, at 8:49 AM, Terry Taylor wrote: > > > > > > > That is interesting. Out of curiosity I > > contacted a svc.mgr./ > > > > mechanic at a local kawasaki dealership (in OKC) > > with well over 15 > > > > years under his belt on the job.When I asked him > > about the same > > > > issue his response was very similar. He thought > > for a moment and > > > > said....."I have maybe seen one or two in the > > time I've been > > > > here."One or two??? Maybe???? That's it???? I > > was shocked.He acted > > > > like it really was not that big of a > > problem.Which I gotta tell ya > > > > has really got me thinking...is it not as big of > > a problem as it is > > > > made out to be? Recently I went on a organized > > dual purpose > > > > ride,after the ride we were all talkin' beside a > > campfire when the > > > > klr guys brought up "the doo". When I told them > > I had not performed > > > > the upgrade I was immediately branded the > > scarlet letter on my > > > > forehead. When I told them I am closing in on > > 18k miles the looks > > > > turned to more like "you idiot". I do have the > > extended warranty > > > > 'till '08 and the tech said that a failure would > > be covered (not > > > > that it > > > > would help me out on some lonely highway > > somewhere) maybe I will > > > > consider it more in '08 when the warranty > > expires....but also, > > > > maybe not!!! > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Sponsored Link > > > > > > > > Talk more and pay less. Vonage can save you up > > to $300 a year on > > > > your phone bill. 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[big ben]

Buenos dias everybody ( I will start to teach you some words in spanish. It will be nice for me and maybe help you in your mexican trips...) Some days ago you teach me about N_KLR (non KLR topcis)....but, what about DSN_KLR??? What does it means?? The other subject: stock set up... I'm 6'6 and 300 lbs... I just buyed from Dual Star the progressive kit (front and rear) but somebody has wrote about the 520 instead the 420....is it better?? I use to ride with my tires on 28/28...maybe I would start to change it in order of what typ of roads I'm riding on...Any sugestion? regards,a bien tot (french too),chivediammo (italian) nice week end and enjoy your rides... --- Ronald Criswell escribi :

> For street riding to add to high speed stability, I > would put tire > pressure at about 32 PSI for both front and rear. > You can air down > for dirt stuff but be careful with that as sharp > rocks can puncture > the tube. But you bounce around more hitting rocks > with the higher > pressure. Seems to work with me. I run the rear > shock at the highest > settings for both adjustments. Plus I added > Progressive springs up > front. later you might think about at least getting > the aftermarket > rear spring especially if you are going to carry a > lot of baggage or > ride hard in the rough stuff. We weigh about the > same. > > Criswell > On Nov 8, 2006, at 7:58 PM, Greg Roeder wrote: > > > I've got a new 2007 and want to know how everybody > else out there in > > KLRland has their rides set up. I especially want > to know about tire > > pressures and shock settings. I weigh around 205 > so I'm thinking of > > running 28 psi in the rear and 21 psi in the > front. Then, I'm > > considering setting up the rear shock with the > spring preload set to 5 > > and the rebound damping set to III. Any > suggestions? > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >

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[Samuel Hudson]

Hola!, I speak some spanish at work usually. The dsn is dual sport news, the klr650 is the model of dual sport we ride. I like lower tire pressure for gravel roads, I find about 18psi on the front ansd 22 on the rear pretty good for mixxed tooling around. --samuelhudson