klr650: iridium ngk

[Stuart Mumford]

> -----Original Message----- > > So that would be $0.065 vs. $0.045 per mile in fuel cost. So if my > > math is correct considering the higher initial cost of the BMW you > > would break even after 157,895 miles. > > --Jim > > Even more true in the cage world. So you buy a Toyota Prius - what do they > cost out the door, $30,000 ? Even if you're driving an old Suburban and > getting 10 mpg, it would take a while to get that back. For many of you > however - Cal Stu, Jud and Ron C to name a few - the over ridding > concern is > the planet. > > Bogdan, who raises a glass to the planet >

Don't forget , a bike causes way way less wear and damage to the road surface. And chicks dig them. Cheers CA Stu PS My over riding concern is WWBD.

[Matt Knowles]

On May 12, 2006, at 11:01 AM, Blake Sobiloff wrote:

> but I do get a good snicker at > seeing a Prius festooned with "save the planet" stickers as I ride > past on my KLR. >

But even though the KLR gets the same mileage as the Prius, it's emitting about twice the pollution. With my KLR, there's a new rear tire to dispose of every 2500 miles vs. 40,000 on my Del Sol. Lot's of factors to consider for the overall impact on the environment. What really gets a chuckle out of me is passing an earth loving hippy driving a 60s Volkswagen bus after making it through the cloud of smoke it's left behind. Matt Knowles - Ferndale, CA - http://www.knowlesville.com/matt/motorcycles '99 Sprint ST - for going fast and far (2CZUSA) '01 KLR650 (A15) - for exploring the North Coast backroads '97 KLX300 & '01 Lakota - for playing in the dirt '79 KZ400 - just because it was the first vehicle I ever owned

[Ronald Criswell]

Planet, Planet .....???????? are we on a planet? I hear voices ..... more voices ....no .... a rumbling sound, ......... whoops I'm outta gas. Bummer! Bicycles, bicycles ........ have no macho (er .... unless you are Lance. I think I can make methane. My wife reassures me that I can. Criswell

On May 12, 2006, at 12:39 PM, Bogdan Swider wrote: > > > > On 5/12/06 12:30 AM, "Jim" wrote: > >> So that would be $0.065 vs. $0.045 per mile in fuel cost. So if my >> math is correct considering the higher initial cost of the BMW you >> would break even after 157,895 miles. >> --Jim > > Even more true in the cage world. So you buy a Toyota Prius - what > do they > cost out the door, $30,000 ? Even if you're driving an old Suburban > and > getting 10 mpg, it would take a while to get that back. For many of > you > however - Cal Stu, Jud and Ron C to name a few - the over ridding > concern is > the planet. > > Bogdan, who raises a glass to the planet > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ > klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[Ronald Criswell]

Ahh ....... the most energy efficient vehicle I have rode is a sailboard (er ......except for when you have to dispose of it). Criswell

On May 12, 2006, at 1:01 PM, Blake Sobiloff wrote: > On May 12, 2006, at 10:39 AM, Bogdan Swider wrote: >> For many of you >> however - Cal Stu, Jud and Ron C to name a few - the over ridding >> concern is >> the planet. > > One thing that folks (not those mentioned above) often forget is the > environmental impact of producing a 4,000 pound car versus a 400 > pound motorcycle: much less metal, plastic, rubber, energy etc. goes > into making a motorcycle, even if you're comparing it with 50 MPG > hybrid car. And, at the end of the vehicle's lifecycle a motorcycle > contains both fewer hazardous materials to handle and more recyclable > materials as a percentage of total composition. > > I'm most emphatically not a Green, but I do get a good snicker at > seeing a Prius festooned with "save the planet" stickers as I ride > past on my KLR. > -- > Blake Sobiloff > http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> > San Jose, CA (USA) > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ > klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[jokerloco9@aol.com]

Skip the Prius - it is trendy and pricy. By a Honda Civic or an older Toyota Echo or the replacement Toyota Yaris. I bought a clean 2001 Echo in 2003 w/20,500 miles for $6000 OTD of a dealer. Today that same car w/60,000 miles is worth about $8500. My Echo always gets 34-39 MPG (auto trans) and on trip from New Mexico to California w/cruise control at 65mph, I got 46.5 MPG. Jeff A20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Douglas Bouley]

I 'spose if we were serious 'bout the 'vironment stuff we'd all walk, huh? That would sure require longer vactions to do Moab and DV justice. But we could talk about shoes and sun-block oil... and doing the do would be a whole 'nother topic. Doug Ronald Criswell wrote:

> Ahh ....... the most energy efficient vehicle I have rode is a > sailboard (er ......except for when you have to dispose of it). > > Criswell > On May 12, 2006, at 1:01 PM, Blake Sobiloff wrote: > > >> On May 12, 2006, at 10:39 AM, Bogdan Swider wrote: >> >>> For many of you >>> however - Cal Stu, Jud and Ron C to name a few - the over ridding >>> concern is >>> the planet. >>> >> One thing that folks (not those mentioned above) often forget is the >> environmental impact of producing a 4,000 pound car versus a 400 >> pound motorcycle: much less metal, plastic, rubber, energy etc. goes >> into making a motorcycle, even if you're comparing it with 50 MPG >> hybrid car. And, at the end of the vehicle's lifecycle a motorcycle >> contains both fewer hazardous materials to handle and more recyclable >> materials as a percentage of total composition. >> >> I'm most emphatically not a Green, but I do get a good snicker at >> seeing a Prius festooned with "save the planet" stickers as I ride >> past on my KLR. >> -- >> Blake Sobiloff >> http://sobiloff.typepad.com/> >> San Jose, CA (USA) >> >> >> >> >> Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ >> klr650_data_search.html >> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >> List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >> Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

[jokerloco9@aol.com]

Not being picky, but when you mentioned that you KLR is emitting twice the pollution of the Prius, I would have to say that the KLR is emitting more like 1000 times the polution of the Prius. I only mention this because car smog reduction has come a long way in the last 20 years. A 1970's car emits literally 1000's of times more pollutants than a new car today. Motorcycles have never been known to be clean air vehicles. I suspect there are some guidelines now (our lean jetting we cry about), but it is nothing like a new car. I can definitely smell the telltale exhaust from my bone stock (except idle screw) KLR. Jeff A20 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Ronald Criswell]

I bought a 93 Miata recently with 94000 miles for $3000. It is getting 27 - 30 mph and is a blast to drive. The suburban is staying off active duty except for supply missions and recon. Criswell

On May 12, 2006, at 3:00 PM, jokerloco9@... wrote: > Skip the Prius - it is trendy and pricy. By a Honda Civic or an older > Toyota Echo or the replacement Toyota Yaris. > > I bought a clean 2001 Echo in 2003 w/20,500 miles for $6000 OTD of a > dealer. Today that same car w/60,000 miles is worth about $8500. > > My Echo always gets 34-39 MPG (auto trans) and on trip from New > Mexico to > California w/cruise control at 65mph, I got 46.5 MPG. > > Jeff A20 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/ > klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Member Map at: http://www.frappr.com/dsnklr650 > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[E.L. Green]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Blake Sobiloff wrote:

> I'm most emphatically not a Green, but I do get a good snicker at > seeing a Prius festooned with "save the planet" stickers as I ride > past on my KLR.

LOL! Not to mention that in real life (as vs. in the showroom), the Prius doesn't get 50mpg. More like 40mpg. I.e., worse than the typical KLR. -E

[E.L. Green]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Mumford" wrote:

> And chicks dig them.

Are you sure you ride a KLR-650? As far as I can tell, chicks merely stare in stunned disbelief when I ride up on my mighty KLR. Of course, the fact that it looks battered and has ugly farkles stuck all over it (like the blue box bolted to the left handlebar that has the switch for my heated grips -- this on a sorta-green bike!) might have soemthing to do with it too... -E