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[Bogdan Swider]

This kind of comment reminds me of John Stuart Mill: "Although not all conservatives are stupid, it is certainly true that most stupid people are conservative." If J.S. - and possibly yourself - had spent more time in academia, you guys might arrive at the opposite viewpoint. Bogdan, who's rubbing his pointy head

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Bogdan Swider wrote:

> This kind of comment reminds me of John Stuart Mill: "Although not all > conservatives are stupid, it is certainly true that most stupid people are > conservative." > > If J.S. - and possibly yourself - had spent more time in academia..

Is that where them Academia nuts come from?

[matteeanne@yahoo.com]

No they are from Hawaii, picked by fat over paid lazy union workers, thats why it's $38 per nut... --- Jud Jones wrote:

> --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, Bogdan Swider > wrote: > > This kind of comment reminds me of John Stuart > Mill: "Although not all > > conservatives are stupid, it is certainly true > that most stupid people are > > conservative." > > > > If J.S. - and possibly yourself - had spent more > time in academia.. > > Is that where them Academia nuts come from? > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >

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[robert bowman]

On Thursday 28 April 2005 19:05, Chuck wrote:

> I've seen a bunch of different models I'd love to own... if I had a > gazillion dollars. I'd sure hate to try off roading one. I'm a little > gullible though. I bought a new Triumph Trophy 650 (upswept pipes, single > carb) in '72. The dealer told me it was a "dirt bike". I believed them, > and tried every mountain road and trail in CO I could find.

The Sportster breathed a sigh of relief when I bought the 650. It was willing, though. Right after the initial 500 mile service, I took the Sportster camping out in eastern MT. The 25 miles of gravel road into the Highwoods isn't real bad, but on the way out I decided to take a FS road I'd never been on. It followed a creek and forded the damn thing five times. I had visions of explaining how I dropped a brand new Harley in the middle of a creek 30 miles from a paved road, but it just tractored across. I grew up before there was much in the way of specialized vehicles except for military jeeps, and you more or less expected what you had to go where you wanted to go. The closest thing to a 'dirt bike' were the chopped Indian or Harley hillclimbers.

[jay carlson]

So far that's: Harley vs. non-Harley Union vs. non-Union Conservative vs. Liberal Good thing we can all have an opinion. Wait... I guess that puts me in the conservative camp. So be it. Jud Jones wrote:

>--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, wrote: > > >>And to those of us old enough to know, AMF was a >>Bowling Pin manufacturer. They splattered every Harley >>with the AMF Logo, (Jeep's too right?) Those were sad >>days for AMerica, a time when people drove Pinto's and >>Vega's for about 20k before they seized, and the >>Grenada was a serious attempt at beating Merecedes. >>Were still paying the price for that crappy >>manufacturing in the world market, ***and as long as the >>Unions have there way, we always will.*** >> >> > >Just wanted to call your attention to the gratuitous right-wing b*llsh*t. Unions didn't >design the Granada, which was just a cheesy Benz lookalike. This kind of comment >reminds me of John Stuart Mill: "Although not all conservatives are stupid, it is certainly >true that most stupid people are conservative." > > > > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >

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[jay carlson]

Dude, you need to wake up and shave the beard. Things have changed since 1979. matteeanne@... wrote:

>Come a long way? >First, let me state I know dick about mechanics, >ratios, bilateral horsepower, or my ass from a hole in >the ground, but I do read, and from all I have seen >and read, Harley Davidson Motors refuses to bring the >product up to speed, litterally, give weight ratios, >cc, yada yada yada, the Harley is in the dark ages >compared to other manufacturers who, instead of >sticking with the "old school" have used technology to >create a better product. >No, Harley's have not come a long way, it's not about >that. I'ts about owning a "Harley", thats all. For >some thats the "Made in America" thing, for others >it's the "Look Ma, a doo rag" thing. People who dig >performance, handling, ability, economy don't buy >Harley's. >Not that that is a bad thing, it's just a thing. Same >can be said for the Cadilac, it has always been a >peice of crap, compared to other performance machines, >but who cares, it's a Caddy for goodness sake. >And again, I ask, what kind of a maniac would ride a >bike without a helmet, in a t shirt, with their foot >inches away from a foot eating belt drive? Now thats >crazy ladies and gentlemen >--- JRC wrote: > > >>>AMF couldn't have cared less about the quality of >>>bikes being produced during their ownership. And >>> >>> >>it >> >> >>>showed! >>> >>> >>That may be true. But then again, Harley did not >>care about the >>quality of their bikes during the same time period, >>either. >>They have come a long way since then. >> >> >> >> >> >>Archive Quicksearch at: >> >> >> >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > >>List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: >>www.dualsportnews.com >>List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: >>www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >> >> >>Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >

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[scott quillen]

Right on Jay!!! Regards, Scott --- jay carlson wrote:

> Dude, you need to wake up and shave the beard. > Things have changed since > 1979. > > matteeanne@... wrote: > > >Come a long way? > >First, let me state I know dick about mechanics, > >ratios, bilateral horsepower, or my ass from a hole > in > >the ground, but I do read, and from all I have seen > >and read, Harley Davidson Motors refuses to bring > the > >product up to speed, litterally, give weight > ratios, > >cc, yada yada yada, the Harley is in the dark ages > >compared to other manufacturers who, instead of > >sticking with the "old school" have used technology > to > >create a better product. > >No, Harley's have not come a long way, it's not > about > >that. I'ts about owning a "Harley", thats all. For > >some thats the "Made in America" thing, for others > >it's the "Look Ma, a doo rag" thing. People who dig > >performance, handling, ability, economy don't buy > >Harley's. > >Not that that is a bad thing, it's just a thing. > Same > >can be said for the Cadilac, it has always been a > >peice of crap, compared to other performance > machines, > >but who cares, it's a Caddy for goodness sake. > >And again, I ask, what kind of a maniac would ride > a > >bike without a helmet, in a t shirt, with their > foot > >inches away from a foot eating belt drive? Now > thats > >crazy ladies and gentlemen > >--- JRC wrote: > > > > > >>>AMF couldn't have cared less about the quality of > >>>bikes being produced during their ownership. And > >>> > >>> > >>it > >> > >> > >>>showed! > >>> > >>> > >>That may be true. But then again, Harley did not > >>care about the > >>quality of their bikes during the same time > period, > >>either. > >>They have come a long way since then. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>Archive Quicksearch at: > >> > >> > >> > >http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > > > > >>List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > >>www.dualsportnews.com > >>List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > >>www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > >> > >> > >>Yahoo! Groups Links > >> > >> > >> DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > >Archive Quicksearch at: >

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[ron criswell]

Indian Larry (rest his soul) rocks. I also like what Europeans do when they modify their bikes. And the boys down in New Orleans at Confederate Motorcycles - they are in a whole new world. But I have to hand it to OCC, they sure know how to market themselves only being in the business since the mid 90's. Criswell

On Thursday, April 28, 2005, at 03:48 PM, Jud Jones wrote: > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "gpokluda" wrote: >> Most of the industry rags like "Dealer News" and "MPN" agree that the >> V- >> Twin market has flattened somewhat for both H-D and the Metrics. >> However the "custom chopper" market hit the afterburners this year >> sales soaring beyond what most expected. This thanks to shows like OC >> Choppers. Speculation is that this high dollar customs have take a >> bigger bite out of the high end crusier market but no one really knows >> for sure. All I know is that I hope the Chopper Era passes quickly >> and >> we move on to something else. >> > > Gee, I have always had a soft spot for a tastefully done chopper, nice > knucklehead bobber > maybe, not that garish crap they build at OCC. Other than that, when I > hear "Harley" my > eyes glaze over. > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[Alan L Henderson]

Harley Davidson. BMW. Liberals. Unions. BEARDS! Now wait a damn minute! > Alan A13 Ia since 1974 jay carlson wrote:

> Dude, you need to wake up and shave the beard. Things have changed since > 1979. >

[George Basinet]

Good morning. Gee wiz, I made 4 out of the 5. This is more gratifying than pushing the plunger on my hot , steamy French press. George, Harleyless in Escondido, CA Alan L Henderson wrote:

>Harley Davidson. >BMW. >Liberals. >Unions. >BEARDS! Now wait a damn minute! > > Alan A13 Ia since 1974 > > > > > > >jay carlson wrote: > > >>Dude, you need to wake up and shave the beard. Things have changed since >>1979. >> >> >> > > >Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com >List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > >