rider down and cornering

[Chris]

Thor Lancelot Simon wrote:

> The only problem is that if you use your bike to commute, you sometimes > _can't_ wear "gear", even over your street clothes. Just finding somewhere > to ditch my jacket and boots can be bad enough, when I arrive at some > places where I can't just walk into the office wearing protective clothing... > > Overpants etc. are nice but another great solution are the Draggin' Chinos. > You can't get them from the U.S. distributor of Draggin Jeans but you can > order them direct from the Australian manufacturer and they arrive very > quickly: http://www.dragginjeans.com.au/ > > Thor

That's why I put the Givi bags on. They hold my full XXLT gear, pants, jacket, even boots if I want. I stick my regular coat in the bags, ride where I'm going and swap out the bike jacket for the regular coat and leave the overpants in the bags. I've wiped out on the street with and without gear. With gear, the worst I got was a torn up shoulder muscle, without I was out of work for a long time with 3rd degree burns from roadrash. I wear all the gear all the time now, to the point I just don't ride in hot weather. It's too simple to avoid all the pain by wearing gear.

[Russell Scott]

Sorry 'bout your accident Ya never can be certain When you'll go from feelin fine To achy, sore and hurtin Flips, loops and collisions It seems when they occur You can go from being healthy To completely shot in a blur Road rash and abrasions There's nothing good about em Concussions and lacerations We all could do without em Sprains aren't much fun either And fractures aren't a blast No one wants accessories Like crutches and a cast Beware of lousy drivers And gravel in the street Keep your wits about you Especially when runnin from da heat So watch out for uneven road ways Dividers and guard rails Good wheelies can go bad And then all ya can do is bail Soon you'll feel much better Now that you're on the mend But if that doesn't do it My poem has reached its end R

[Thor Lancelot Simon]

On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 11:39:30AM -0400, Chris wrote:

> > Thor Lancelot Simon wrote: > > > The only problem is that if you use your bike to commute, you sometimes > > _can't_ wear "gear", even over your street clothes. Just finding somewhere > > to ditch my jacket and boots can be bad enough, when I arrive at some > > places where I can't just walk into the office wearing protective clothing... > > > > Overpants etc. are nice but another great solution are the Draggin' Chinos. > > You can't get them from the U.S. distributor of Draggin Jeans but you can > > order them direct from the Australian manufacturer and they arrive very > > quickly: http://www.dragginjeans.com.au/ > > > > Thor > > That's why I put the Givi bags on. They hold my full XXLT gear, pants, > jacket, even boots if I want. I stick my regular coat in the bags, ride > where I'm going and swap out the bike jacket for the regular coat and > leave the overpants in the bags.

Works well -- unless you need the bags/boxes to carry stuff, which happens more than occasionally for me. I don't like to dodge city traffic with the side boxes on unless I have to, and the topbox fills up pretty quick. Just to clarify, Draggin Jeans/Draggin Chinos _are_ "gear", albeit with no armor. They have a sewn-in knit-Kevlar lining that's at least as tough as a lot of the leather overpants you'll find on the market today (which _also_ don't feature armor, most of the time). And they look "normal" enough to wear to work just about anywhere you don't need to show up in a suit... they're really a terrific product. When it's cool enough and I've got room to stash it, I ride in an Aerostich suit.

[Kelly Walsh]

Brilliant! Kelly Walsh Santa Fe, NM A17 (and oh-so Soylent Green) '81 GPz 550 (All these years later and still running nifty) --- Russell Scott wrote:

> > Sorry 'bout your accident > Ya never can be certain > When you'll go from feelin fine > To achy, sore and hurtin > > Flips, loops and collisions > It seems when they occur > You can go from being healthy > To completely shot in a blur > > Road rash and abrasions > There's nothing good about em > Concussions and lacerations > We all could do without em > > Sprains aren't much fun either > And fractures aren't a blast > No one wants accessories > Like crutches and a cast > > Beware of lousy drivers > And gravel in the street > Keep your wits about you > Especially when runnin from da heat > > So watch out for uneven road ways > Dividers and guard rails > Good wheelies can go bad > And then all ya can do is bail > > Soon you'll feel much better > Now that you're on the mend > But if that doesn't do it > My poem has reached its end > > R > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris > Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > >

[DPBiker]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Scott" Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] RIDER DOWN > Sorry 'bout your accident > Ya never can be certain > When you'll go from feelin fine > To achy, sore and hurtin > > Flips, loops and collisions > It seems when they occur > You can go from being healthy > To completely shot in a blur > > Road rash and abrasions > There's nothing good about em > Concussions and lacerations > We all could do without em > > Sprains aren't much fun either > And fractures aren't a blast > No one wants accessories > Like crutches and a cast > > Beware of lousy drivers > And gravel in the street > Keep your wits about you > Especially when runnin from da heat > > So watch out for uneven road ways > Dividers and guard rails > Good wheelies can go bad > And then all ya can do is bail > > Soon you'll feel much better > Now that you're on the mend > But if that doesn't do it > My poem has reached its end > > R I find your use of mixed meter a bit aggravating and difficult to read. The inconsistent feet in the 5th and 6th verses threw me off. Oh... wrong forum. I liked your poem anyways. I have those creative moments once in awhile also. Brent

[Russell Scott]

Yesterday, I decide to go on Mr. Toad's Wild Re-Ride, hosted by Juri, a new lister, on his new to him KLR. We were having a great ride, with excellent weather, and beautiful back roads. Then all our plans were changed on the highway between Ojai and Santa Barbara. I guess the driver of a Hummer decided he owns both sides of the road, and could move around a pack of bicyclists, on a TOTALLY BLIND corner, just as Juri was leaning into it coming the other way. He corrected to move around the oncoming Hummer, but then lost the front end trying to keep the bike on the pavement. Completely knocked himself out from the impact of hitting the pavement (he would be dead as a doornail without his helmet). He tumbled about fifty feet along the shoulder. Incredibly, there was a medical doctor, and an EMS staffer, who witnessed the whole thing from their bicycles, and provided immediate assistance. He had leathers, good gloves, and a Joe Rocket jacket on, so he suffered no road rash. It took Juri about one minute to regain consciousness. He didn't know where he was, or remember anything about the accident. He was beginning to feel the pain of a broken collarbone and ribs. Then the paramedics showed up, and a helicopter was called in to take him to the hospital. The thing that made my day though, was as soon as he begin to realize what had happened, he started apologizing to all the other riders for getting into an accident. You do meet the nicest people on a KLR. Russell Scott <- say a prayer for Juri, for a quick and complete recovery

[klr250not]

Sorry to hear about the new rider's (Juri) cornering accident. As another new rider I can see how it happens, even without a Hummer involved. Sharp curves can bite you bad if you enter too fast for your skills, thats a lesson Ive already learned, although I escaped with no damage done. Soon as I can find a decent-sized, empty parking lot, I'm going to practice curves until I can tighten my radius at 15 mph. Then maybe step it up to 20 mph etc depending on how big the parking lot is. What would be a respectable radius at 15 mph or 20 mph? How about 30 mph? PS: havent quite figured out how to post a reply (*reply* then *send* then *post* or what, so this will be a new post

[Eric L. Green]

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, Russell Scott wrote:

> highway between Ojai and Santa Barbara. I guess the driver of a Hummer > decided he owns both sides of the road, and could move around a pack of > bicyclists, on a TOTALLY BLIND corner, just as Juri was leaning into it > coming the other way. He corrected to move around the oncoming Hummer, but

And some people call me "gramma" 'cause on any blind corner, I slow down to the point where I can scoot to the sideline or even stop if I round the corner and there's a Hummer parked in the middle of the road... Best of luck to Juri. Sounds like he did the right thing, as best as he could given it was a new bike to him. Did anybody get the license plate on that Hummer to call the cops for his careless and reckless endangerment of other people's lives? -E

[Russell Scott]

No, the Hummer got away, because the only rider who witnessed it was too preoccupied with attending to him. The rest of us had gotten separated by traffic, and were not on the scene until about two minutes after the crash. R -----Original Message----- From: Eric L. Green [mailto:ericnospam@...] Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 8:19 AM To: Russell Scott Cc: KListeRs Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Rider Down

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004, Russell Scott wrote: > highway between Ojai and Santa Barbara. I guess the driver of a Hummer > decided he owns both sides of the road, and could move around a pack of > bicyclists, on a TOTALLY BLIND corner, just as Juri was leaning into it > coming the other way. He corrected to move around the oncoming Hummer, but And some people call me "gramma" 'cause on any blind corner, I slow down to the point where I can scoot to the sideline or even stop if I round the corner and there's a Hummer parked in the middle of the road... Best of luck to Juri. Sounds like he did the right thing, as best as he could given it was a new bike to him. Did anybody get the license plate on that Hummer to call the cops for his careless and reckless endangerment of other people's lives? -E List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Yahoo! Groups Links