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[bkowalca]

Believe the chart or not, I don't care. If I was going to upload a bogus chart, I would at least give it 50HP. They acutally didn't want to dyno the bike because it was close to 30,000kms at the time and they didn't like the Trailwing on the back which I had installed just for this test. They have a policy of not testing bikes over 30,000kms, I guess they don't want them blowing up. Maybe the KLR looked pretty beat up compared to all the shiny sport bikes. I had to sweet talk them into doing the test because the Trailwing wasn't stamped "For Highway Use" on it. The dyno guys had never done a dirt bike before. I believe the numbers because I saw a few bikes that where putting out what you would expect them to. Some guys where pissed off because their bike where making less than stock. My buddy got the award for the lowest HP on his NX250, it was around 20HP. Bryan K A14 --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Mumford" wrote:

> Koff koff bullshit koff koff. > > Gonna upload another pencil drawn dyno chart, man? > > CA Stu A13 > > -----Original Message----- > Ya, 40HP sucks. I get almost 43HP out of my A14 and is just on the > edge of being boring on the street. I want 70HP in a bike that > weighs the same or less than the KLR. Is it possible? Check out: > http://www.motorcycledaily.com/13november03aprilia_supermotard.htm > > (drooling from the side of my mouth) > > Bryan K > A14

[Stu]

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH The only dyno in town? No legit dyno chart. 43 HP is BS. You are full of milk. Thanks CA Stu DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "bkowalca" wrote:

> Believe the chart or not, I don't care. If I was going to upload a > bogus chart, I would at least give it 50HP. > > They acutally didn't want to dyno the bike because it was close to > 30,000kms at the time and they didn't like the Trailwing on the

back

> which I had installed just for this test. > > They have a policy of not testing bikes over 30,000kms, I guess

they

> don't want them blowing up. Maybe the KLR looked pretty beat up > compared to all the shiny sport bikes. I had to sweet talk them

into

> doing the test because the Trailwing wasn't stamped "For Highway > Use" on it. > > The dyno guys had never done a dirt bike before. I believe the > numbers because I saw a few bikes that where putting out what you > would expect them to. Some guys where pissed off because their bike > where making less than stock. My buddy got the award for the lowest > HP on his NX250, it was around 20HP. > > Bryan K > A14 > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Mumford"

> wrote: > > Koff koff bullshit koff koff. > > > > Gonna upload another pencil drawn dyno chart, man? > > > > CA Stu A13 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Ya, 40HP sucks. I get almost 43HP out of my A14 and is just on

the

> > edge of being boring on the street. I want 70HP in a bike that > > weighs the same or less than the KLR. Then I'm gonna sprout wings > > and fly. Also, I have Xray vision and can see the future. > > I'm way too cool for a KLR. Is it > > possible? Check out: > > http://www.motorcycledaily.com/13november03aprilia_supermotard.htm > > > > (drooling from the side of my mouth) > > > > Bryan K > > A14

[bkowalca]

When I bought my A14 it was bone stock with 11,000kms on it. What a disappointment. It was a weasy, whimpy bike. First mod was to open up the airbox (cutpout and screen removed) and do some simple carb changes (pilot screw and shim stock needle). There was an immeadiate improvement. The next step was to get the carb dead on. I built an adapter that would allow me to attach an O2 sensor on the tailpipe. After messing aroung and installing the KLX650 needle, the carb was setup just about perfect, a little on the rich side. The next step was the compression boost through removing the cylinder base gasket and some head work. I immeadiately found the bike ran better. I wants to rev now and really picks up at 4500rpm all the way to redline. The dyno run just confirmed my "seat-of-pants" feel for the cost of $20 and a couple hours hanging out at the performance shop. I can constantly out accelerate stock KLR's, keep up with the XR650's and even beat a BMW GS1100 once in a drag race. The fairy tales are at the Never-Never ranch in Santa Barbara. The reality is sitting in my garage. I guess you don't want to hear about the other mods I did to make the bike handle sandy whoops like an XR400 because that is all fantasy too. Bryan K A14

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" wrote: > BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH > > The only dyno in town? > > No legit dyno chart. > > 43 HP is BS. > > You are full of milk. > > Thanks > CA Stu > PS Say hi to Tinkerbell over there in Fantasyland. > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "bkowalca" > wrote: > > Believe the chart or not, I don't care. If I was going to upload a > > bogus chart, I would at least give it 50HP. > > > > They acutally didn't want to dyno the bike because it was close to > > 30,000kms at the time and they didn't like the Trailwing on the > back > > which I had installed just for this test. > > > > They have a policy of not testing bikes over 30,000kms, I guess > they > > don't want them blowing up. Maybe the KLR looked pretty beat up > > compared to all the shiny sport bikes. I had to sweet talk them > into > > doing the test because the Trailwing wasn't stamped "For Highway > > Use" on it. > > > > The dyno guys had never done a dirt bike before. I believe the > > numbers because I saw a few bikes that where putting out what you > > would expect them to. Some guys where pissed off because their bike > > where making less than stock. My buddy got the award for the lowest > > HP on his NX250, it was around 20HP. > > > > Bryan K > > A14 > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Mumford" > > > wrote: > > > Koff koff bullshit koff koff. > > > > > > Gonna upload another pencil drawn dyno chart, man? > > > > > > CA Stu A13 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Ya, 40HP sucks. I get almost 43HP out of my A14 and is just on > the > > > edge of being boring on the street. I want 70HP in a bike that > > > weighs the same or less than the KLR. Then I'm gonna sprout wings > > > and fly. Also, I have Xray vision and can see the future. > > > I'm way too cool for a KLR. Is it > > > possible? Check out: > > > http://www.motorcycledaily.com/13november03aprilia_supermotard.htm > > > > > > (drooling from the side of my mouth) > > > > > > Bryan K > > > A14

[Steve Green]

Hey Brian, I beleive ya. But Stu did say 40 HP with only carb and exhaust mods would earn $50. You did the compression mod too. Steve --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "bkowalca" wrote:

> When I bought my A14 it was bone stock with 11,000kms on it. What a > disappointment. It was a weasy, whimpy bike. First mod was to open > up the airbox (cutpout and screen removed) and do some simple carb > changes (pilot screw and shim stock needle). There was an

immeadiate

> improvement. The next step was to get the carb dead on. I built an > adapter that would allow me to attach an O2 sensor on the tailpipe. > After messing aroung and installing the KLX650 needle, the carb was > setup just about perfect, a little on the rich side. > > The next step was the compression boost through removing the > cylinder base gasket and some head work. > > I immeadiately found the bike ran better. I wants to rev now and > really picks up at 4500rpm all the way to redline. The dyno run

just

> confirmed my "seat-of-pants" feel for the cost of $20 and a couple > hours hanging out at the performance shop. > > I can constantly out accelerate stock KLR's, keep up with the > XR650's and even beat a BMW GS1100 once in a drag race. > > The fairy tales are at the Never-Never ranch in Santa Barbara. The > reality is sitting in my garage. > > I guess you don't want to hear about the other mods I did to make > the bike handle sandy whoops like an XR400 because that is all > fantasy too. > > Bryan K > A14 > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" wrote: > > BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH > > > > The only dyno in town? > > > > No legit dyno chart. > > > > 43 HP is BS. > > > > You are full of milk. > > > > Thanks > > CA Stu > > > PS Say hi to Tinkerbell over there in Fantasyland. > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "bkowalca" > > wrote: > > > Believe the chart or not, I don't care. If I was going to

upload

> a > > > bogus chart, I would at least give it 50HP. > > > > > > They acutally didn't want to dyno the bike because it was close > to > > > 30,000kms at the time and they didn't like the Trailwing on the > > back > > > which I had installed just for this test. > > > > > > They have a policy of not testing bikes over 30,000kms, I guess > > they > > > don't want them blowing up. Maybe the KLR looked pretty beat up > > > compared to all the shiny sport bikes. I had to sweet talk them > > into > > > doing the test because the Trailwing wasn't stamped "For

Highway

> > > Use" on it. > > > > > > The dyno guys had never done a dirt bike before. I believe the > > > numbers because I saw a few bikes that where putting out what > you > > > would expect them to. Some guys where pissed off because their > bike > > > where making less than stock. My buddy got the award for the > lowest > > > HP on his NX250, it was around 20HP. > > > > > > Bryan K > > > A14 > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Mumford" > > > > > wrote: > > > > Koff koff bullshit koff koff. > > > > > > > > Gonna upload another pencil drawn dyno chart, man? > > > > > > > > CA Stu A13 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Ya, 40HP sucks. I get almost 43HP out of my A14 and is just

on

> > the > > > > edge of being boring on the street. I want 70HP in a bike

that

> > > > weighs the same or less than the KLR. Then I'm gonna sprout > wings > > > > and fly. Also, I have Xray vision and can see the future. > > > > I'm way too cool for a KLR. Is it > > > > possible? Check out: > > > > > http://www.motorcycledaily.com/13november03aprilia_supermotard.htm > > > > > > > > (drooling from the side of my mouth) > > > > > > > > Bryan K > > > > A14

[bigfatgreenbike]

b_kowalchuk@... wrote:

>I guess you don't want to hear about the other mods I did to make >the bike handle sandy whoops like an XR400 because that is all >fantasy too. > >Bryan K >A14 >

Considering that the optimum trail bike for the local terrain here is a KTM 250 four-stroke, the lack of power doesn't concern me. But the compression boost waking up the motor is not suprising. After having my Progressive 420 shock fade hopelessly after a mile of sand whoops, the only mods I'm really interested in are the ones that made it handle like an XR400. -- Devon Brooklyn, NY A15-Z '01 KLR650 '81 SR500 cafe racer "The truth's not too popular these days....." Arnold Schwarzenneger, in The Running Man

[Mike T - AGI]

What chart are you referencing? Mike T A16 Las vegas ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter http://mail.giantcompany.com -----Original Message----- From: bkowalca [mailto:b_kowalchuk@...] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 12:00 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: RE :was I will learn to live with (almost)40 rhp. now, fairy tales NKLR Believe the chart or not, I don't care. If I was going to upload a bogus chart, I would at least give it 50HP. They acutally didn't want to dyno the bike because it was close to 30,000kms at the time and they didn't like the Trailwing on the back which I had installed just for this test. They have a policy of not testing bikes over 30,000kms, I guess they don't want them blowing up. Maybe the KLR looked pretty beat up compared to all the shiny sport bikes. I had to sweet talk them into doing the test because the Trailwing wasn't stamped "For Highway Use" on it. The dyno guys had never done a dirt bike before. I believe the numbers because I saw a few bikes that where putting out what you would expect them to. Some guys where pissed off because their bike where making less than stock. My buddy got the award for the lowest HP on his NX250, it was around 20HP. Bryan K A14 --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Mumford" wrote:

> Koff koff bullshit koff koff. > > Gonna upload another pencil drawn dyno chart, man? > > CA Stu A13 > > -----Original Message----- > Ya, 40HP sucks. I get almost 43HP out of my A14 and is just on the > edge of being boring on the street. I want 70HP in a bike that > weighs the same or less than the KLR. Is it possible? Check out: > http://www.motorcycledaily.com/13november03aprilia_supermotard.htm > > (drooling from the side of my mouth) > > Bryan K > A14

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[Devon]

http://www.devonjarvisphoto.com/posted/KLR650/carb_install/images/KLR650%20stock%20dyno.jpg That's from the dyno run I got when my A15 was just broken in. Devon agi@... wrote:

>What chart are you referencing? > > >Mike T >A16 >Las vegas > > > > >

[Mike T - AGI]

Hey, don't let STU get to you. He has at times been in my ass (and others) as well. For the great majority of time, STU is a most welcome poster - heck, without his brash humor, and the $50.00 that WILL NEVER LEAVE his wallet, where would we all be? Post your mods and remember KLR650's are fun, and so is this group. Mike T A16 Las Vegas Hey Stu - be nice for 48 hours - geez - it almost thanksgiving! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter http://mail.giantcompany.com -----Original Message----- From: bkowalca [mailto:b_kowalchuk@...] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 7:18 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: RE :was I will learn to live with (almost)40 rhp. now, fairy tales NKLR When I bought my A14 it was bone stock with 11,000kms on it. What a disappointment. It was a weasy, whimpy bike. First mod was to open up the airbox (cutpout and screen removed) and do some simple carb changes (pilot screw and shim stock needle). There was an immeadiate improvement. The next step was to get the carb dead on. I built an adapter that would allow me to attach an O2 sensor on the tailpipe. After messing aroung and installing the KLX650 needle, the carb was setup just about perfect, a little on the rich side. The next step was the compression boost through removing the cylinder base gasket and some head work. I immeadiately found the bike ran better. I wants to rev now and really picks up at 4500rpm all the way to redline. The dyno run just confirmed my "seat-of-pants" feel for the cost of $20 and a couple hours hanging out at the performance shop. I can constantly out accelerate stock KLR's, keep up with the XR650's and even beat a BMW GS1100 once in a drag race. The fairy tales are at the Never-Never ranch in Santa Barbara. The reality is sitting in my garage. I guess you don't want to hear about the other mods I did to make the bike handle sandy whoops like an XR400 because that is all fantasy too. Bryan K A14

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" wrote: > BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH > > The only dyno in town? > > No legit dyno chart. > > 43 HP is BS. > > You are full of milk. > > Thanks > CA Stu > PS Say hi to Tinkerbell over there in Fantasyland. > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "bkowalca" > wrote: > > Believe the chart or not, I don't care. If I was going to upload a > > bogus chart, I would at least give it 50HP. > > > > They acutally didn't want to dyno the bike because it was close to > > 30,000kms at the time and they didn't like the Trailwing on the > back > > which I had installed just for this test. > > > > They have a policy of not testing bikes over 30,000kms, I guess > they > > don't want them blowing up. Maybe the KLR looked pretty beat up > > compared to all the shiny sport bikes. I had to sweet talk them > into > > doing the test because the Trailwing wasn't stamped "For Highway > > Use" on it. > > > > The dyno guys had never done a dirt bike before. I believe the > > numbers because I saw a few bikes that where putting out what you > > would expect them to. Some guys where pissed off because their bike > > where making less than stock. My buddy got the award for the lowest > > HP on his NX250, it was around 20HP. > > > > Bryan K > > A14 > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Mumford" > > > wrote: > > > Koff koff bullshit koff koff. > > > > > > Gonna upload another pencil drawn dyno chart, man? > > > > > > CA Stu A13 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Ya, 40HP sucks. I get almost 43HP out of my A14 and is just on > the > > > edge of being boring on the street. I want 70HP in a bike that > > > weighs the same or less than the KLR. Then I'm gonna sprout wings > > > and fly. Also, I have Xray vision and can see the future. > > > I'm way too cool for a KLR. Is it > > > possible? Check out: > > > http://www.motorcycledaily.com/13november03aprilia_supermotard.htm > > > > > > (drooling from the side of my mouth) > > > > > > Bryan K > > > A14 List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Mike T - AGI]

Me too. My 'time out' period has lapsed. Stu should race Bryan |-) Mike T A16 Las Vegas ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter http://mail.giantcompany.com -----Original Message----- From: Eduardo [mailto:masionis@...] Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:49 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] RE :was I will learn to live with (almost)40 rhp. now, fairy tales NKLR It is good to question some claims to keep the list honest. I did not witness any dyno test but have seen Bryan's A14 CONSISTANTLY PULL AWAY from my A14 the whole season as if I was riding two up or had a whole birch stuck on my skid plate. I was totaly stock and with Kendas 270 and later Kendas 760, he always has Maxxis 6006. Both our bikes have 14T prockets. On pavement,gravel or dirt when my A14 run out of steam his keept pulling forever. (and that drove me $%^&* nuts!!! ) I am too lazy to extrapilate HP from how much further and faster he pulls, but I can tell you that the improvement is Significant.... very significant.... maybe 15 metres over 200 metres significant. So, having experienced the results of the changes he made to his KLR, I am selflessly willing to offer my A14 to replicate the results..... Eduardo A14 --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "bkowalca" wrote:

> When I bought my A14 it was bone stock with 11,000kms on it. What a > disappointment. It was a weasy, whimpy bike. First mod was to open > up the airbox (cutpout and screen removed) and do some simple carb > changes (pilot screw and shim stock needle). There was an

immeadiate

> improvement. The next step was to get the carb dead on. I built an > adapter that would allow me to attach an O2 sensor on the tailpipe. > After messing aroung and installing the KLX650 needle, the carb was > setup just about perfect, a little on the rich side. > > The next step was the compression boost through removing the > cylinder base gasket and some head work. > > I immeadiately found the bike ran better. I wants to rev now and > really picks up at 4500rpm all the way to redline. The dyno run

just

> confirmed my "seat-of-pants" feel for the cost of $20 and a couple > hours hanging out at the performance shop. > > I can constantly out accelerate stock KLR's, keep up with the > XR650's and even beat a BMW GS1100 once in a drag race. > > The fairy tales are at the Never-Never ranch in Santa Barbara. The > reality is sitting in my garage. > > I guess you don't want to hear about the other mods I did to make > the bike handle sandy whoops like an XR400 because that is all > fantasy too. > > Bryan K > A14 > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" wrote: > > BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH > > > > The only dyno in town? > > > > No legit dyno chart. > > > > 43 HP is BS. > > > > You are full of milk. > > > > Thanks > > CA Stu > > > PS Say hi to Tinkerbell over there in Fantasyland. > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "bkowalca" > > wrote: > > > Believe the chart or not, I don't care. If I was going to

upload

> a > > > bogus chart, I would at least give it 50HP. > > > > > > They acutally didn't want to dyno the bike because it was close > to > > > 30,000kms at the time and they didn't like the Trailwing on the > > back > > > which I had installed just for this test. > > > > > > They have a policy of not testing bikes over 30,000kms, I guess > > they > > > don't want them blowing up. Maybe the KLR looked pretty beat up > > > compared to all the shiny sport bikes. I had to sweet talk them > > into > > > doing the test because the Trailwing wasn't stamped "For

Highway

> > > Use" on it. > > > > > > The dyno guys had never done a dirt bike before. I believe the > > > numbers because I saw a few bikes that where putting out what > you > > > would expect them to. Some guys where pissed off because their > bike > > > where making less than stock. My buddy got the award for the > lowest > > > HP on his NX250, it was around 20HP. > > > > > > Bryan K > > > A14 > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Stuart Mumford" > > > > > wrote: > > > > Koff koff bullshit koff koff. > > > > > > > > Gonna upload another pencil drawn dyno chart, man? > > > > > > > > CA Stu A13 > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Ya, 40HP sucks. I get almost 43HP out of my A14 and is just

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[amaurine@comcast.net]

Well, Murphy's Law has struck again! I sold my A-17 just prior to moving to Tucson, AZ. Bought a 94 R100M 'Mystic' BMW - I had been looking for one for a long time and found one in perfect shape. Now that I'm in AZ I find that there are a ton of dirt roads, trails, and ghost towns that would be fun to explore. I am looking for an older KLR650 or possibly a KLR250. I see a few out there have the KLR250's and wonder how they are on the freeways and main highways? I won't be going to far on the machine - but a road trip up into Utah is totally possible. So, I am looking for something in the $1500 range as I am semi retired and don't have alot of extra cash. I am keeping an eye on the local paper and cycle adds but have found nothing sofar. I would like to find something in the AZ area - don't want to ship or drive thousands of miles to pick the bike up. Thanks All Al Maurine Tucson, AZ 94 R100M 'Mystic' 2001 KLR650 (gone but not forgotten)