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[Glen Mills]

Any guy who would do this needs some serious help. Absolutely the same type of motivation as the sexual sadist, anger-retaliation rapist or serial killer who targets women. Very sad... Walt wrote:Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR: Repo4Sale

> I only wish I lived closer to him. 500-700yds yards would be fine. I > really miss practicing with humans. Cans and groundhogs just aren't > much fun anymore. > millerized > ex-person dispatcher/soldier/aircraft mechanic/electrician/commo-dog > >

Check out this story with cool video report and link to followup. http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1356380&nav=168XGqk0 And here is the website for the story subject. http://www.huntingforbambi.com/ Now that's what I'm talkin' about! Walt A14 "War Horse" List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Devon Jarvis]

Glen Mills wrote:

> > Any guy who would do this needs some serious help. Absolutely the same type of > motivation as the sexual sadist, anger-retaliation rapist or serial killer who targets > women. Very sad...

I agree this is troubling. On the surface it seems like a less horrible outlet for that sort of illness than what you usually see on the news, but I worry that it helps blur the line between reality and fantasy for people who are mostly nuts already. Oddly enough, I'm going to play paintball in two weekends as part of my future brother-in-law's bachelor party. So I'm going to shoot paintballs at the guy who's nailing my sister (but he'll have clothes on). Is this healthy, from a psychological standpoint? Devon -- "It's a troublesome world, all the people who are in it, are troubled with troubles almost every minute" Dr. Seuss

[Tengai Mark Van Horn]

At 1:36 PM -0400 7/15/03, Devon Jarvis wrote:

>Glen Mills wrote: >> >> Any guy who would do this needs some serious help. Absolutely the >>same type of > motivation as the sexual sadist, anger-retaliation >>rapist or serial killer who targets > women. Very sad... > >I agree this is troubling. On the surface it seems like a >less horrible outlet for that sort of illness than what you >usually see on the news, but I worry that it helps blur the >line between reality and fantasy for people who are mostly >nuts already.

While I'm unlikely to get turned on by this, I disagree. I just watched the news story and although the reportress is appalled and portrays it as dangerous and rape-like, these women involved are CONSENTING ADULTS who are PAID between $1,000 and $2,500 in an afternoon to play. Shit, if I was a woman, I'd sign up, get naked, work a couple of months and take the rest of the year off! No different than any other seedy industry in Vegas. Mark

[andy@andynicholson.com]

Guess it depends on how low you aim ...

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:36:07 -0400, Devon Jarvis wrote: > > Oddly enough, I'm going to play paintball in two weekends as > part of my future brother-in-law's bachelor party. > > So I'm going to shoot paintballs at the guy who's nailing my > sister (but he'll have clothes on). Is this healthy, from a > psychological standpoint? > > Devon

[Mark Yocom]

It's not the women that were the focus of the report though, it was the concern about the men who would pay the 5000-10000 to spend a few minutes shooting these women. I totally and completely agree that it could lead one of these guys to act out in more realistic and dangerous ways. But I can probably think of several other popular attractions that can accomplish the same thing. Now I'm not one to run with the censors in the country. In fact, I think we are WAY TOO STRICT when it comes to censorship. But I do think that this needs to be monitored carefully with lots of good paperwork, especailly on the part of the guys who participate. -NM Mark

> While I'm unlikely to get turned on by this, I disagree. I just > watched the news story and although the reportress is appalled and > portrays it as dangerous and rape-like, these women involved are > CONSENTING ADULTS who are PAID between $1,000 and $2,500 in an > afternoon to play. Shit, if I was a woman, I'd sign up, get naked, > work a couple of months and take the rest of the year off! > No different than any other seedy industry in Vegas. > Mark > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List > FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[James L. Miller Jr.]

What's worse: the women who let themselves be shot, or the guys doing the shooting? Like trying to figure out the leading cause of prostitution: Available Women or men looking for them millerized --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Glen Mills wrote:

> Any guy who would do this needs some serious help. Absolutely the

same type of motivation as the sexual sadist, anger-retaliation rapist or serial killer who targets women. Very sad...

> > Walt wrote:Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR: Repo4Sale > > I only wish I lived closer to him. 500-700yds yards would be

fine. I

> > really miss practicing with humans. Cans and groundhogs just

aren't

> > much fun anymore. > > millerized > > ex-person dispatcher/soldier/aircraft mechanic/electrician/commo-

dog

> > > > > > Check out this story with cool video report and link to followup. > http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1356380&nav=168XGqk0 > And here is the website for the story subject. > http://www.huntingforbambi.com/ > Now that's what I'm talkin' about! > > Walt > A14 "War Horse" > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List

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[Devon Jarvis]

"James L. Miller Jr." wrote:

> > What's worse: the women who let themselves be shot, or the guys > doing the shooting?

One is dumb and/or desperate, the other is crazy.

> Like trying to figure out the leading cause of > prostitution: Available Women or men looking for them > millerized

I think this is VERY different from garden-variety prostitution. I would think the average head-shrinker would agree. Do we have anyone in the psychiatric profession on the list? Devon

> > http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1356380&nav=168XGqk0

-- "It's a troublesome world, all the people who are in it, are troubled with troubles almost every minute" Dr. Seuss

[tammy@dualsportrider.org]

Sick people with to much time and money or the need for money.... *********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

On 7/15/2003 at 6:30 PM James L. Miller Jr. wrote: >What's worse: the women who let themselves be shot, or the guys >doing the shooting? Like trying to figure out the leading cause of >prostitution: Available Women or men looking for them >millerized > > >--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Glen Mills >wrote: >> Any guy who would do this needs some serious help. Absolutely the >same type of motivation as the sexual sadist, anger-retaliation >rapist or serial killer who targets women. Very sad... >> >> Walt wrote:Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: NKLR: Repo4Sale >> > I only wish I lived closer to him. 500-700yds yards would be >fine. I >> > really miss practicing with humans. Cans and groundhogs just >aren't >> > much fun anymore. >> > millerized >> > ex-person dispatcher/soldier/aircraft mechanic/electrician/commo- >dog >> > >> > >> >> Check out this story with cool video report and link to followup. >> http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1356380&nav=168XGqk0 >> And here is the website for the story subject. >> http://www.huntingforbambi.com/ >> Now that's what I'm talkin' about! >> >> Walt >> A14 "War Horse" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List >FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >> Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: >> DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . >> >> >> >> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to >http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Do you Yahoo!? >> SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > >List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ >courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html >Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: >DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[andy@andynicholson.com]

Conventional economic theory is that demand always preceeds supply.

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:42:43 -0400, "tammy@..." wrote: > > > Sick people with to much time and money or the need for money.... > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > On 7/15/2003 at 6:30 PM James L. Miller Jr. wrote: > > >What's worse: the women who let themselves be shot, or the guys > >doing the shooting? Like trying to figure out the leading cause of > >prostitution: Available Women or men looking for them > >millerized

[dumbazz650]

Maybe its one 'o them gubbamint plots to identify such sick b*stards for special observation. Damned gubbamint! Mark --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Glen Mills wrote:

> Any guy who would do this needs some serious help. Absolutely the

same type of motivation as the sexual sadist, anger-retaliation rapist or serial killer who targets women. Very sad...

>

...

> > Check out this story with cool video report and link to followup. > http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1356380&nav=168XGqk0 > And here is the website for the story subject. > http://www.huntingforbambi.com/ > Now that's what I'm talkin' about! > > Walt