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Devon Jarvis
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Post by Devon Jarvis » Fri Mar 07, 2003 12:35 pm

I'm sure the valves are fine then, but 5,000mi ago would be 2 1/2 years of light usage. Enough time for the gas to go stale, and start turning into varnish. Devon Wayne Watson wrote:
> > The valves were adjusted and the carb was cleaned around 5,000 miles ago. > Devon Jarvis wrote:Have the valves been adjusted, ever? 20,000mi in 12 years is > really not a lot of miles, maybe it's just time to clean the > carburetor. > > Devon > A15 > > Wayne Watson wrote: > > > > It has been quite a while since I've driven it, but last summer I didn t have much mid range acceleration, and toward the end of summer I was losing top end. I bought the bike new. It has 20,000+ miles on it, It starts fine, idles fine, and doesn t smoke > > > > "Judson D. Jones" wrote:--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Watson > > wrote: > >

Arden Kysely
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Post by Arden Kysely » Fri Mar 07, 2003 12:35 pm

20k miles isn't much for a KLR if it's been maintained. Before going hog wild with a rebuild on a non-oil burner, I'd clean the air filter, check/adjust the valves, put in a new spark plug, check all the wiring connections and see where that got me. Might also check to see that the rear brake pads are dragging too badly and that the chain isn't too tight. __Arden --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Watson wrote:
> > It has been quite a while since I've driven it, but last summer I
didn't have much mid range acceleration, and toward the end of summer I was losing top end. I bought the bike new. It has 20,000+ miles on it, It starts fine, idles fine, and doesn't smoke
>

Judson D. Jones
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Post by Judson D. Jones » Fri Mar 07, 2003 12:43 pm

Well, with 20000 miles, and no visible smoke, I'm going to rule out valves, guides and rings. Nothing else jumps out on what you've told us. Is the air filter clean? Is a brake dragging? Has the bike sat around long enough so you are forgetting what it should feel like? Would a fresh tank of gas help? Is the carb venting? --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Watson wrote:
> > The valves were adjusted and the carb was cleaned around 5,000 miles
ago.
> Devon Jarvis wrote:Have the valves been adjusted,
ever? 20,000mi in 12 years is
> really not a lot of miles, maybe it's just time to clean the > carburetor. > > Devon > A15 > > Wayne Watson wrote: > > > > It has been quite a while since I've driven it, but last summer I
didn't have much mid range acceleration, and toward the end of summer I was losing top end. I bought the bike new. It has 20,000+ miles on it, It starts fine, idles fine, and doesn't smoke
> > > > "Judson D. Jones" wrote:--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Wayne
Watson
> > wrote: > > > > > > Its really losing power. > > > > That's not much to go on. This list can probably offer some > > suggestions as to what might be wrong with more information. What
are
> > its symptoms? How does it start? How does it idle? Does it smoke?
On
> > acceleration, or on overrun? How many miles are on it? Does it
stall
> > at intersections? Have you observed any changes in its behavior?
What
> > if any work has been done on it recently? What is it that causes
you
> > to say it's losing power? > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List
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Wayne Watson
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Post by Wayne Watson » Fri Mar 07, 2003 12:45 pm

Could the need for a valve adjustment cause you to lose alot of power? It was a couple of years ago, and 5000 miles since they were adjusted. Arden Kysely wrote:20k miles isn't much for a KLR if it's been maintained. Before going hog wild with a rebuild on a non-oil burner, I'd clean the air filter, check/adjust the valves, put in a new spark plug, check all the wiring connections and see where that got me. Might also check to see that the rear brake pads are dragging too badly and that the chain isn't too tight. __Arden --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Watson wrote:
> > It has been quite a while since I've driven it, but last summer I
didn't have much mid range acceleration, and toward the end of summer I was losing top end. I bought the bike new. It has 20,000+ miles on it, It starts fine, idles fine, and doesn't smoke
>
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Judson D. Jones
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Post by Judson D. Jones » Fri Mar 07, 2003 12:46 pm

Well, with 20000 miles, and no visible smoke, I'm going to rule out valves, guides and rings. Nothing else jumps out on what you've told us. Is the air filter clean? Is a brake dragging? Has the bike sat around long enough so you are forgetting what it should feel like? Would a fresh tank of gas help? Is the carb venting? --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Watson wrote:
> > The valves were adjusted and the carb was cleaned around 5,000 miles
ago.
> Devon Jarvis wrote:Have the valves been adjusted,
ever? 20,000mi in 12 years is
> really not a lot of miles, maybe it's just time to clean the > carburetor. > > Devon > A15 > > Wayne Watson wrote: > > > > It has been quite a while since I've driven it, but last summer I
didn't have much mid range acceleration, and toward the end of summer I was losing top end. I bought the bike new. It has 20,000+ miles on it, It starts fine, idles fine, and doesn't smoke
> > > > "Judson D. Jones" wrote:--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Wayne
Watson
> > wrote: > > > > > > Its really losing power. > > > > That's not much to go on. This list can probably offer some > > suggestions as to what might be wrong with more information. What
are
> > its symptoms? How does it start? How does it idle? Does it smoke?
On
> > acceleration, or on overrun? How many miles are on it? Does it
stall
> > at intersections? Have you observed any changes in its behavior?
What
> > if any work has been done on it recently? What is it that causes
you
> > to say it's losing power? > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List
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Judson D. Jones
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Post by Judson D. Jones » Fri Mar 07, 2003 12:47 pm

20 k, no smoke. Rule out rings, valves and guides. Carb vent? Would fresh gas help? --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Watson wrote:
> > The valves were adjusted and the carb was cleaned around 5,000 miles
ago.
> Devon Jarvis wrote:Have the valves been adjusted,
ever? 20,000mi in 12 years is
> really not a lot of miles, maybe it's just time to clean the > carburetor. > > Devon > A15 > > Wayne Watson wrote: > > > > It has been quite a while since I've driven it, but last summer I
didn't have much mid range acceleration, and toward the end of summer I was losing top end. I bought the bike new. It has 20,000+ miles on it, It starts fine, idles fine, and doesn't smoke
> > > > "Judson D. Jones" wrote:--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Wayne
Watson
> > wrote: > > > > > > Its really losing power. > > > > That's not much to go on. This list can probably offer some > > suggestions as to what might be wrong with more information. What
are
> > its symptoms? How does it start? How does it idle? Does it smoke?
On
> > acceleration, or on overrun? How many miles are on it? Does it
stall
> > at intersections? Have you observed any changes in its behavior?
What
> > if any work has been done on it recently? What is it that causes
you
> > to say it's losing power? > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List
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Tengai Mark Van Horn
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Post by Tengai Mark Van Horn » Fri Mar 07, 2003 12:50 pm

That could mean you paid some guy $150 to dump fuel injector cleaner in your gas tank and then go smoke a pack of cigarettes, unless you stumbled upon the 1 honest dealer in 20 out there. At 10:34 AM -0800 3/7/03, Wayne Watson wrote:
>Dealer > Zachariah Mully wrote:On Fri, 2003-03-07 at >13:29, Wayne Watson wrote: >> The valves were adjusted and the carb was cleaned around 5,000 miles ago. > >By a dealer, or by yourself? > >Z

Arden Kysely
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Post by Arden Kysely » Fri Mar 07, 2003 12:53 pm

Valves that are too tight may not seal well and will eventually burn. Not good for power production. __Arden --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Watson wrote:
> > Could the need for a valve adjustment cause you to lose alot of
power? It was a couple of years ago, and 5000 miles since they were adjusted.
> Arden Kysely wrote:20k miles isn't much for a
KLR if it's been maintained. Before going
> hog wild with a rebuild on a non-oil burner, I'd clean the air > filter, check/adjust the valves, put in a new spark plug, check all > the wiring connections and see where that got me. Might also check
to
> see that the rear brake pads are dragging too badly and that the > chain isn't too tight. > > > __Arden

Matthew
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Post by Matthew » Fri Mar 07, 2003 12:56 pm

maybe check compression in the cylinder. that'll let you know if any compression is escaping from the valves/rings. also see if the compression leaks down within a minute or so. anyone know what the compression is supposed to be?. if its not burning any oil this is all prob ok though. matthew A14 orlando FL --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Arden Kysely" wrote:
> 20k miles isn't much for a KLR if it's been maintained. Before
going
> hog wild with a rebuild on a non-oil burner, I'd clean the air > filter, check/adjust the valves, put in a new spark plug, check
all
> the wiring connections and see where that got me. Might also check
to
> see that the rear brake pads are dragging too badly and that the > chain isn't too tight. > > > __Arden > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Watson
> wrote: > > > > It has been quite a while since I've driven it, but last summer
I
> didn't have much mid range acceleration, and toward the end of
summer
> I was losing top end. I bought the bike new. It has 20,000+ miles
on
> it, It starts fine, idles fine, and doesn't smoke > >

Judson D. Jones
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Post by Judson D. Jones » Fri Mar 07, 2003 12:57 pm

Sorry about the multiple posts. Usually, valve clearances tighten up over time. The first symptom is typically a tendency to stumble off idle, or to stall out when slowing to a stop, and deterioration of the idle. By the time you notice any power loss, the driveability issues should already have surfaced. Valves that are way loose can cause a loss of power, but you should notice the racket long before any power loss. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Watson wrote:
> > Could the need for a valve adjustment cause you to lose alot of
power? It was a couple of years ago, and 5000 miles since they were adjusted.
> Arden Kysely wrote:20k miles isn't much for a
KLR if it's been maintained. Before going
> hog wild with a rebuild on a non-oil burner, I'd clean the air > filter, check/adjust the valves, put in a new spark plug, check all > the wiring connections and see where that got me. Might also check
to
> see that the rear brake pads are dragging too badly and that the > chain isn't too tight. > > > __Arden > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, Wayne Watson > wrote: > > > > It has been quite a while since I've driven it, but last summer I > didn't have much mid range acceleration, and toward the end of
summer
> I was losing top end. I bought the bike new. It has 20,000+ miles on > it, It starts fine, idles fine, and doesn't smoke > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ
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