carb question. got it working ,thanks all

[Chris]

I agree. -----Original Message----- From: david gay [mailto:davidlg76@...] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 11:59 PM To: chris4617@...; sheilandken@...; DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [DSN_klr650] Brake Lines I think your parts man is smoking the good sh*t. Dave A12 Chris wrote: Good question, I went to the parts store today for brake pads and stuff. Parts man told me that under the rubber the hoses are braided stainless steel on almost all bike built since the late nineties. What does the group think please, I don't want to nick the rubber cover to find out. -----Original Message----- From: sheilandken [mailto:sheilandken@...] Sent: Saturday, February 22, 2003 06:52 PM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Brake Lines I ride mostly road and gravel road. No real trail riding. In that case, is there any advantage to braided steel brake cables? Thanks, Ken List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ _____ Do you Yahoo!? HYPERLINK "http://rd.yahoo.com/finance/mailtagline ... com/! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/2003 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Chris]

I agree, but the problem he is the last one in the city that I can deal with. I believe that his misinformation is due to ignorance and not motivated by sales quotas. I think I will look and see if I can find someone to make me some lines Monday, that way I am sure. -----Original Message----- From: kdxkawboy@... [mailto:kdxkawboy@...] Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 06:33 AM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Brake Lines Now why would they cover up a perfectly good stainless steelline with a thick rubber coating? What purpose could the rubber serve but to jump up the cost of construction. I wouldn't know why the dealer is feeding you this line but when I hear of dealers that feed folks such bull my advice is to find a new dealer. Pat Schmid G'ville, NV In a message dated 2003-02-22 5:55:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, chris4617@... writes:

> > Good question, I went to the parts store today for brake pads and stuff. > Parts man told me that under the rubber the hoses are braided stainless > steel on almost all bike built since the late nineties. What does the > group > think please, I don't want to nick the rubber cover to find out. > >

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[david gay]

Hey Kdx, We all have a right to disagree, but I do remember on older dirt bikes ( I'm talking disco days and older) before discs brakes, the trick for a rear brake that locked too easily, was to bend the brake rod a little to put some mush into it. I completely argree that SS lines with no mush are better and can be controled better on good traction surfaces, but mush can be a plus in the dirt. Dave A12 kdxkawboy@... wrote:I would disagree with that statement. Mushy brakes are mushy brakes rather dirt or street. They don't make modulation any easier, if anything the lack of precious braking power due to expanding rubber lines makes it harder to accurately modulate braking power. By going to steel braided lines I feel that I have improved the ability to modulate the brakes on all surfaces and have finally found some decent braking power along the way. Pat Schmid G'ville, NV In a message dated 2003-02-22 6:18:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, KLRMule@... writes:

> The relative softness of the stock line can actually be an advantage on > gravel or dirt. You can modulate your braking easier and you're less likely > to lock up the front wheel and lose control. >

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[dooden]

I agree, Bring back the DISCO'S !!!!! Or ermmm that "mushy" front brake actually helps in the loose/soft stuff. On the pavement I think if your finding that it is too mushy to stop or do a stoppie... Umm your on the wrong bike. (Would the KLR forks take such a stopping power ? ) Unless of course you have nice street tires and like doing stoppies, why are you riding a KLR ? Considering my last bike was drum front and rear, I find the KLR brakes fine when the bike is rode proper, a few times on the pavement I could have used more front maybe, but used in combo with the back brake and downshifting, I find I can stop pretty fast. Time to break out the rhinestone studded MX boots... Dooden

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, david gay wrote: > > Hey Kdx, > > We all have a right to disagree, but I do remember on older dirt bikes ( I'm talking disco days and older) before discs brakes, the trick for a rear brake that locked too easily, was to bend the brake rod a little to put some mush into it. > > I completely argree that SS lines with no mush are better and can be controled better on good traction surfaces, but mush can be a plus in the dirt. > > Dave A12 > > kdxkawboy@a... wrote:I would disagree with that statement. Mushy brakes are mushy brakes rather > dirt or street. They don't make modulation any easier, if anything the lack > of precious braking power due to expanding rubber lines makes it harder to > accurately modulate braking power. By going to steel braided lines I feel > that I have improved the ability to modulate the brakes on all surfaces and > have finally found some decent braking power along the way. > > Pat Schmid > G'ville, NV > > > In a message dated 2003-02-22 6:18:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, > KLRMule@n... writes: > > > The relative softness of the stock line can actually be an advantage on > > gravel or dirt. You can modulate your braking easier and you're less likely > > to lock up the front wheel and lose control. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[david gay]

Disco dooden... Got a nice ring to it. Maybe you should change to that. I don't know about the extra stopping power for stoppies, with those giant diameter KLR forks, stoppies might decrease your rake and trail a few degrees each time you did one. I actually remember a real Squid that had a 185 Suzuki twin, 1975 I think, that said he was afraid to use the front disc, cause it might crease his forks. Of course I saw the same Sqiud putting his foot down while cornering on the street with his Z1-R a couple of years after that. I know tires weren't the best back then but sheezz. I guess once a squid, always a squid. What did you have before your KLR dooden? "dooden " wrote:I agree, Bring back the DISCO'S !!!!! Or ermmm that "mushy" front brake actually helps in the loose/soft stuff. On the pavement I think if your finding that it is too mushy to stop or do a stoppie... Umm your on the wrong bike. (Would the KLR forks take such a stopping power ? ) Unless of course you have nice street tires and like doing stoppies, why are you riding a KLR ? Considering my last bike was drum front and rear, I find the KLR brakes fine when the bike is rode proper, a few times on the pavement I could have used more front maybe, but used in combo with the back brake and downshifting, I find I can stop pretty fast. Time to break out the rhinestone studded MX boots... Dooden dated 2003-02-22 6:18:38 PM Pacific Standard Time,

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[Judson D. Jones]

Dood, If you have time to downshift, then you ain't stoppin' nearly hard enough. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "dooden " wrote:

> I agree, Bring back the DISCO'S !!!!! > > Or ermmm that "mushy" front brake actually helps in the

loose/soft

> stuff. > > On the pavement I think if your finding that it is too mushy to

stop

> or do a stoppie... Umm your on the wrong bike. > (Would the KLR forks take such a stopping power ? ) > > Unless of course you have nice street tires and like doing

stoppies,

> why are you riding a KLR ? > > Considering my last bike was drum front and rear, I find the

KLR

> brakes fine when the bike is rode proper, a few times on the

pavement

> I could have used more front maybe, but used in combo with

the back

> brake and downshifting, I find I can stop pretty fast. > > Time to break out the rhinestone studded MX boots... > > Dooden > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, david gay

wrote:

> > > > Hey Kdx, > > > > We all have a right to disagree, but I do remember on older

dirt

> bikes ( I'm talking disco days and older) before discs brakes,

the

> trick for a rear brake that locked too easily, was to bend the

brake

> rod a little to put some mush into it. > > > > I completely argree that SS lines with no mush are better and

can

> be controled better on good traction surfaces, but mush can be

a plus

> in the dirt. > > > > Dave A12 > > > > kdxkawboy@a... wrote:I would disagree with that statement.

Mushy

> brakes are mushy brakes rather > > dirt or street. They don't make modulation any easier, if

anything

> the lack > > of precious braking power due to expanding rubber lines

makes it

> harder to > > accurately modulate braking power. By going to steel braided

lines

> I feel > > that I have improved the ability to modulate the brakes on all > surfaces and > > have finally found some decent braking power along the way. > > > > Pat Schmid > > G'ville, NV > > > > > > In a message dated 2003-02-22 6:18:38 PM Pacific Standard

Time,

> > KLRMule@n... writes: > > > > > The relative softness of the stock line can actually be an > advantage on > > > gravel or dirt. You can modulate your braking easier and

you're

> less likely > > > to lock up the front wheel and lose control. > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at

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[dooden]

Dunno about you, but I can downshift, use the front and rear brake at the same time. Both hands and both feet work. Dooden --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Judson D. Jones " wrote:

> Dood, > If you have time to downshift, then you ain't stoppin' nearly hard > enough. > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "dooden " > wrote: > > I agree, Bring back the DISCO'S !!!!! > > > > Or ermmm that "mushy" front brake actually helps in the > loose/soft > > stuff. > > > > On the pavement I think if your finding that it is too mushy to > stop > > or do a stoppie... Umm your on the wrong bike. > > (Would the KLR forks take such a stopping power ? ) > > > > Unless of course you have nice street tires and like doing > stoppies, > > why are you riding a KLR ? > > > > Considering my last bike was drum front and rear, I find the > KLR > > brakes fine when the bike is rode proper, a few times on the > pavement > > I could have used more front maybe, but used in combo with > the back > > brake and downshifting, I find I can stop pretty fast. > > > > Time to break out the rhinestone studded MX boots... > > > > Dooden > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, david gay > wrote: > > > > > > Hey Kdx, > > > > > > We all have a right to disagree, but I do remember on older > dirt > > bikes ( I'm talking disco days and older) before discs brakes, > the > > trick for a rear brake that locked too easily, was to bend the > brake > > rod a little to put some mush into it. > > > > > > I completely argree that SS lines with no mush are better and > can > > be controled better on good traction surfaces, but mush can be > a plus > > in the dirt. > > > > > > Dave A12 > > > > > > kdxkawboy@a... wrote:I would disagree with that statement. > Mushy > > brakes are mushy brakes rather > > > dirt or street. They don't make modulation any easier, if > anything > > the lack > > > of precious braking power due to expanding rubber lines > makes it > > harder to > > > accurately modulate braking power. By going to steel braided > lines > > I feel > > > that I have improved the ability to modulate the brakes on all > > surfaces and > > > have finally found some decent braking power along the way. > > > > > > Pat Schmid > > > G'ville, NV > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2003-02-22 6:18:38 PM Pacific Standard > Time, > > > KLRMule@n... writes: > > > > > > > The relative softness of the stock line can actually be an > > advantage on > > > > gravel or dirt. You can modulate your braking easier and > you're > > less likely > > > > to lock up the front wheel and lose control. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > www.dualsportnews.com. List > > FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Judson D. Jones]

I can do it too, but even the KLR brakes are powerful enough that engine braking adds nothing. For the quickest stops, pull in your clutch to eliminate any chance the rear wheel will drive through the brakes. If you are getting any retardation out of your motor, you could be braking harder. -- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "dooden " wrote:

> Dunno about you, but I can downshift, use the front and rear

brake at

> the same time. Both hands and both feet work. > > > > > Dooden > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Judson D. Jones

"

> wrote: > > > > Dood, > > > > If you have time to downshift, then you ain't stoppin' nearly

hard

> > > > enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "dooden

"

> > > > wrote: > > > > > I agree, Bring back the DISCO'S !!!!! > > > > > > > > > > Or ermmm that "mushy" front brake actually helps in the > > > > loose/soft > > > > > stuff. > > > > > > > > > > On the pavement I think if your finding that it is too mushy to > > > > stop > > > > > or do a stoppie... Umm your on the wrong bike. > > > > > (Would the KLR forks take such a stopping power ? ) > > > > > > > > > > Unless of course you have nice street tires and like doing > > > > stoppies, > > > > > why are you riding a KLR ? > > > > > > > > > > Considering my last bike was drum front and rear, I find the > > > > KLR > > > > > brakes fine when the bike is rode proper, a few times on

the

> > > > pavement > > > > > I could have used more front maybe, but used in combo

with

> > > > the back > > > > > brake and downshifting, I find I can stop pretty fast. > > > > > > > > > > Time to break out the rhinestone studded MX boots... > > > > > > > > > > Dooden > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, david gay > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Kdx, > > > > > > > > > > > > We all have a right to disagree, but I do remember on

older

> > > > dirt > > > > > bikes ( I'm talking disco days and older) before discs

brakes,

> > > > the > > > > > trick for a rear brake that locked too easily, was to bend the > > > > brake > > > > > rod a little to put some mush into it. > > > > > > > > > > > > I completely argree that SS lines with no mush are better

and

> > > > can > > > > > be controled better on good traction surfaces, but mush

can be

> > > > a plus > > > > > in the dirt. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave A12 > > > > > > > > > > > > kdxkawboy@a... wrote:I would disagree with that

statement.

> > > > Mushy > > > > > brakes are mushy brakes rather > > > > > > dirt or street. They don't make modulation any easier, if > > > > anything > > > > > the lack > > > > > > of precious braking power due to expanding rubber lines > > > > makes it > > > > > harder to > > > > > > accurately modulate braking power. By going to steel

braided

> > > > lines > > > > > I feel > > > > > > that I have improved the ability to modulate the brakes on

all

> > > > > surfaces and > > > > > > have finally found some decent braking power along the

way.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Pat Schmid > > > > > > G'ville, NV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2003-02-22 6:18:38 PM Pacific

Standard

> > > > Time, > > > > > > KLRMule@n... writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The relative softness of the stock line can actually be an > > > > > advantage on > > > > > > > gravel or dirt. You can modulate your braking easier

and

> > > > you're > > > > > less likely > > > > > > > to lock up the front wheel and lose control. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > > > > www.dualsportnews.com. List > > > > > FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at:

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[david gay]

Disco Dooden learned to do that while riding without a rear brake pedal half of last summer. "Judson D. Jones " wrote:Dood, If you have time to downshift, then you ain't stoppin' nearly hard enough. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "dooden " wrote:

> I agree, Bring back the DISCO'S !!!!! > > Or ermmm that "mushy" front brake actually helps in the

loose/soft

> stuff. > > On the pavement I think if your finding that it is too mushy to

stop

> or do a stoppie... Umm your on the wrong bike. > (Would the KLR forks take such a stopping power ? ) > > Unless of course you have nice street tires and like doing

stoppies,

> why are you riding a KLR ? > > Considering my last bike was drum front and rear, I find the

KLR

> brakes fine when the bike is rode proper, a few times on the

pavement

> I could have used more front maybe, but used in combo with

the back

> brake and downshifting, I find I can stop pretty fast. > > Time to break out the rhinestone studded MX boots... > > Dooden > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, david gay

wrote:

> > > > Hey Kdx, > > > > We all have a right to disagree, but I do remember on older

dirt

> bikes ( I'm talking disco days and older) before discs brakes,

the

> trick for a rear brake that locked too easily, was to bend the

brake

> rod a little to put some mush into it. > > > > I completely argree that SS lines with no mush are better and

can

> be controled better on good traction surfaces, but mush can be

a plus

> in the dirt. > > > > Dave A12 > > > > kdxkawboy@a... wrote:I would disagree with that statement.

Mushy

> brakes are mushy brakes rather > > dirt or street. They don't make modulation any easier, if

anything

> the lack > > of precious braking power due to expanding rubber lines

makes it

> harder to > > accurately modulate braking power. By going to steel braided

lines

> I feel > > that I have improved the ability to modulate the brakes on all > surfaces and > > have finally found some decent braking power along the way. > > > > Pat Schmid > > G'ville, NV > > > > > > In a message dated 2003-02-22 6:18:38 PM Pacific Standard

Time,

> > KLRMule@n... writes: > > > > > The relative softness of the stock line can actually be an > advantage on > > > gravel or dirt. You can modulate your braking easier and

you're

> less likely > > > to lock up the front wheel and lose control. > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at

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[dooden]

As habit I have always downshifted as I brake, just in case I need to reverse my choice and get the hell outta the way, im already in the gear that will offer the most grunt for the motor. Grew up riding in the woods and rapidly changing terrain, so being in a high gear would'nt help me if I needed to quickly move. Just the way I ride. Never really thought about it much. Dooden --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Judson D. Jones " wrote:

> I can do it too, but even the KLR brakes are powerful enough that > engine braking adds nothing. For the quickest stops, pull in your > clutch to eliminate any chance the rear wheel will drive through > the brakes. If you are getting any retardation out of your motor, > you could be braking harder. > > -- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "dooden " > wrote: > > Dunno about you, but I can downshift, use the front and rear > brake at > > the same time. Both hands and both feet work. > > > > > > > > > > Dooden > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Judson D. Jones > " > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dood, > > > > > > > If you have time to downshift, then you ain't stoppin' nearly > hard > > > > > > > enough. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "dooden > " > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I agree, Bring back the DISCO'S !!!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or ermmm that "mushy" front brake actually helps in the > > > > > > > loose/soft > > > > > > > > stuff. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the pavement I think if your finding that it is too mushy

to

> > > > > > > stop > > > > > > > > or do a stoppie... Umm your on the wrong bike. > > > > > > > > (Would the KLR forks take such a stopping power ? ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless of course you have nice street tires and like doing > > > > > > > stoppies, > > > > > > > > why are you riding a KLR ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Considering my last bike was drum front and rear, I find the > > > > > > > KLR > > > > > > > > brakes fine when the bike is rode proper, a few times on > the > > > > > > > pavement > > > > > > > > I could have used more front maybe, but used in combo > with > > > > > > > the back > > > > > > > > brake and downshifting, I find I can stop pretty fast. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Time to break out the rhinestone studded MX boots... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dooden > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, david gay > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Kdx, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We all have a right to disagree, but I do remember on > older > > > > > > > dirt > > > > > > > > bikes ( I'm talking disco days and older) before discs > brakes, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > trick for a rear brake that locked too easily, was to bend the > > > > > > > brake > > > > > > > > rod a little to put some mush into it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I completely argree that SS lines with no mush are better > and > > > > > > > can > > > > > > > > be controled better on good traction surfaces, but mush > can be > > > > > > > a plus > > > > > > > > in the dirt. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dave A12 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kdxkawboy@a... wrote:I would disagree with that > statement. > > > > > > > Mushy > > > > > > > > brakes are mushy brakes rather > > > > > > > > > dirt or street. They don't make modulation any easier, if > > > > > > > anything > > > > > > > > the lack > > > > > > > > > of precious braking power due to expanding rubber lines > > > > > > > makes it > > > > > > > > harder to > > > > > > > > > accurately modulate braking power. By going to steel > braided > > > > > > > lines > > > > > > > > I feel > > > > > > > > > that I have improved the ability to modulate the brakes on > all > > > > > > > > surfaces and > > > > > > > > > have finally found some decent braking power along the > way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pat Schmid > > > > > > > > > G'ville, NV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2003-02-22 6:18:38 PM Pacific > Standard > > > > > > > Time, > > > > > > > > > KLRMule@n... writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The relative softness of the stock line can actually be an > > > > > > > > advantage on > > > > > > > > > > gravel or dirt. You can modulate your braking easier > and > > > > > > > you're > > > > > > > > less likely > > > > > > > > > > to lock up the front wheel and lose control. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at > > > > > > > www.dualsportnews.com. List > > > > > > > > FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > > > > > > > > > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > > > > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]