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[Killer650]

I have been fighting this since I got the bike a few weeks ago, and it has beaten me into submission. Much more of this I am I going to auction this f%^&^%r on eBay. I refuse to let a stealer look at it on principal. Bike starts perfectly while cold. Engine catches on first turn. Scary fast. Sometimes (not all the time) the engine will NOT catch after it has been sitting for a few minutes. All the wire wiggling and choking in the world doesnt help. Let it sit until it cools off, and it will catch on the first turn. Any and all ideas appreciated. ARRRGH! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Devon Jarvis]

So, it just won't start? It will run fine when hot, it's not cutting out, but if you shut it off you can't restart it until it cools? If the above is true then it's likely not an ignition fault. Sounds like the choke is stuck on, or you have the carb set way too rich. Devon Killer650 wrote:

> I have been fighting this since I got the bike a few weeks ago, and it has beaten me into submission. Much more of this I am I going to auction this f%^&^%r on eBay. I refuse to let a stealer look at it on principal. > > Bike starts perfectly while cold. Engine catches on first turn. Scary fast. Sometimes (not all the time) the engine will NOT catch after it has been sitting for a few minutes. All the wire wiggling and choking in the world doesnt help. Let it sit until it cools off, and it will catch on the first turn. Any and all ideas appreciated. > > ARRRGH!

[RM]

On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Devon Jarvis wrote:

>If the above is true then it's likely not an ignition fault. Sounds like >the choke is stuck on, or you have the carb set way too rich.

If the engine is kinda cranky when hot yet opening the throttle 1/4 turn while the starter is engaged causes it to fire right up, the mixture is probably too rich. RM

[Killer650]

Yes, Yes, Yes. I have checked the choke, it is off. The carb. still has the factory plug on it.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Devon Jarvis" To: "KLR650 group" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Hard Hot Starting? (Muther FU%$#R!!) > So, it just won't start? It will run fine when hot, it's not cutting out, but if you shut it off you can't restart it until it cools? > > If the above is true then it's likely not an ignition fault. Sounds like the choke is stuck on, or you have the carb set way too rich. > > Devon > > Killer650 wrote: > > > I have been fighting this since I got the bike a few weeks ago, and it has beaten me into submission. Much more of this I am I going to auction this f%^&^%r on eBay. I refuse to let a stealer look at it on principal. > > > > Bike starts perfectly while cold. Engine catches on first turn. Scary fast. Sometimes (not all the time) the engine will NOT catch after it has been sitting for a few minutes. All the wire wiggling and choking in the world doesnt help. Let it sit until it cools off, and it will catch on the first turn. Any and all ideas appreciated. > > > > ARRRGH! > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[Killer650]

The carb is still factory sealed...

----- Original Message ----- From: "RM" Cc: "KLR650 group" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 6:35 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Hard Hot Starting? (Muther FU%$#R!!) > > On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Devon Jarvis wrote: > > >If the above is true then it's likely not an ignition fault. Sounds like > >the choke is stuck on, or you have the carb set way too rich. > > If the engine is kinda cranky when hot yet opening the throttle 1/4 turn > while the starter is engaged causes it to fire right up, the mixture is > probably too rich. > > RM > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[bkowalca]

I had simuliar problems when I had a fuel filter installed. If you have one, remove it, try again. Bryan K A14 --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Killer650" wrote:

> I have been fighting this since I got the bike a few weeks ago,

and it has beaten me into submission. Much more of this I am I going to auction this f%^&^%r on eBay. I refuse to let a stealer look at it on principal.

> > Bike starts perfectly while cold. Engine catches on first turn.

Scary fast. Sometimes (not all the time) the engine will NOT catch after it has been sitting for a few minutes. All the wire wiggling and choking in the world doesnt help. Let it sit until it cools off, and it will catch on the first turn. Any and all ideas appreciated.

> > ARRRGH! > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Jim]

Do you mean the starter cranks but the engine won't fire. Have you checked your valves clearances lately? My A-15 did the exact same thing, would crank right up cold but upon restart after riding it would take several stabs at the starter button before she would fire up. I adjusted my valves and the intakes were pretty tight but now that problem is gone. Just a thought. --Jim

[Devon Jarvis]

No, No, No. I am not suggesting that you have left the choke on this whole time. I'm suggesting that the choke plunger in the carburetor is stuck, and the choke is on regardless of the lever position. What year is it? Devon Killer650 wrote:

> Yes, Yes, Yes. > > I have checked the choke, it is off. The carb. still has the factory plug on > it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Devon Jarvis" > To: "KLR650 group" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 6:28 PM > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Hard Hot Starting? (Muther FU%$#R!!) > > > So, it just won't start? It will run fine when hot, it's not cutting out, > but if you shut it off you can't restart it until it cools? > > > > If the above is true then it's likely not an ignition fault. Sounds like > the choke is stuck on, or you have the carb set way too rich. > > > > Devon > >

[kcuf_oohay_666]

If the starter doesn't turn over when hot then it may be the silonoid (spelling?). Don't know if the KLR has one but thats what it would be if it was a SB Chevy. Did you check the cable to the choke. I think there is suppose to be 2-3mm play between the cable end cap and the choke lever seat. Could also be the plunger for the choke is stuck open inside the carb. Or the cable is fraid inside and holding it open. maybe the needle and seat are sticking open. How old is the Bike? When you said it starts and runs scary fast it sounds like the choke. I think the KLR choke lets more of both air and fuel in. If it only let more fuel in I dont think it would run fast. So the problem probably isnt a bad needle + seat.

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Killer650" wrote: > I have been fighting this since I got the bike a few weeks ago, and it has beaten me into submission. Much more of this I am I going to auction this f%^&^%r on eBay. I refuse to let a stealer look at it on principal. > > Bike starts perfectly while cold. Engine catches on first turn. Scary fast. Sometimes (not all the time) the engine will NOT catch after it has been sitting for a few minutes. All the wire wiggling and choking in the world doesnt help. Let it sit until it cools off, and it will catch on the first turn. Any and all ideas appreciated. > > ARRRGH! > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Killer650]

It is a 2000. I have found a loose connector going to the CDI from the magneto pickup. Actually, the wires inside the Molex connector were loose. I have rigged it for now as my good connectors are at work, but it seems to have solved my problem. I will know more tomorrow. Thanks for the tips... Dave

----- Original Message ----- From: "Devon Jarvis" To: "KLR650 group" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Hard Hot Starting? (Muther FU%$#R!!) > No, No, No. > > I am not suggesting that you have left the choke on this whole time. I'm > suggesting that the choke plunger in the carburetor is stuck, and the choke is > on regardless of the lever position. > > What year is it? > > Devon > > > > Killer650 wrote: > > > Yes, Yes, Yes. > > > > I have checked the choke, it is off. The carb. still has the factory plug on > > it. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Devon Jarvis" > > To: "KLR650 group" DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 6:28 PM > > Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Hard Hot Starting? (Muther FU%$#R!!) > > > > > So, it just won't start? It will run fine when hot, it's not cutting out, > > but if you shut it off you can't restart it until it cools? > > > > > > If the above is true then it's likely not an ignition fault. Sounds like > > the choke is stuck on, or you have the carb set way too rich. > > > > > > Devon > > > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >