studded tire update.

[monahanwb]

--- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote:

> This sucks. It sucks worse that a$$holes like your trespassers

screw it up

> for people like me.

Hey, feel lucky and fortunate, even grateful for what you have...you'll feel better. Got both eyes? Good! All arms and legs there? Terrific. You're lucky. Could be a lot worse. You have a big motorcycle to ride? Way more fortunate than many, or most, in this world. There are no guarantees.

[Devon Jarvis]

Obviously, practically everyone on this list is enjoying a luxury. Most people in this country enjoy serious luxury by the standards of some parts of the world. If you're going to bring all that up, I'll point out that anything mich bigger than a 90cc honda step-thru is wasteful, if you really NEED a bike at all. Noone living in the five boroughs of NYC "needs" a bike- there's a perfectly good subway system! I was whining because we live in a country with low population density and cheap gas, and there are very few legal places to ride near where I live. The public land that my tax money supports is off limits. Most private land where trail riding would be tolerated or simply ignored is abused by people who steal, vandalize, and litter. In order: My kid is healthy. My wife is healthy. I'm healthy. good marriage good place to live good career etc etc motorcycles are so far down the list that there's no room to list everything in-between. Won't make me less irritated by the situation. Yes, I am indeed fortunate that I have no more pressing concerns. Those of you living out west, in the "wide open spaces"- take a good look at the northeast. This is what it could be like for you in a few decades, you'll be stuck between the rock of overdevelopment, and the hard place of anti-motorsports legislation and sentiment. Devon A15 monahanwb wrote:

> --- In DSN_klr650@y..., Devon Jarvis wrote: > > This sucks. It sucks worse that a$$holes like your trespassers > screw it up > > for people like me. > > Hey, feel lucky and fortunate, even grateful for what you > have...you'll feel better. Got both eyes? Good! All arms and legs > there? Terrific. You're lucky. Could be a lot worse. You have a > big motorcycle to ride? Way more fortunate than many, or most, in > this world. > > There are no guarantees. > > Checkout Dual Sport News at > http://www.dualsportnews.com > Be part of the Adventure! > > Visit the KLR650 archives at > http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Tengai650]

>At 12:08 AM -0500 2/5/02, Devon Jarvis wrote: >Those of you living out west, in the "wide open spaces"- take a good look at >the northeast. This is what it could be like for you in a few decades....

They'll have 4,500 miles of beautiful forested legal riding area? Mark B2 A2 A3

[Devon Jarvis]

Where are you talking about? Devon Tengai650 wrote:

> >At 12:08 AM -0500 2/5/02, Devon Jarvis wrote: > >Those of you living out west, in the "wide open spaces"- take a good look at > >the northeast. This is what it could be like for you in a few decades.... > > They'll have 4,500 miles of beautiful forested legal riding area? > Mark > B2 > A2 > A3

[Tengai650]

Most of the state of PA, with 3/4 of the best riding concentrated in the central/north central part of the state. Mark B2 A2 A3 At 12:47 AM -0500 2/5/02, Devon Jarvis wrote:

>Where are you talking about? > >Devon > >Tengai650 wrote: > >> >At 12:08 AM -0500 2/5/02, Devon Jarvis wrote: >> >Those of you living out west, in the "wide open spaces"- take a >>good look at >> >the northeast. This is what it could be like for you in a few decades.... >> >> They'll have 4,500 miles of beautiful forested legal riding area? >> Mark >> B2 >> A2 >> A3 > > >Checkout Dual Sport News at >http://www.dualsportnews.com >Be part of the Adventure! > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > >Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Devon Jarvis]

That's about 5 hours driving from NYC. How much has the available land shrunk in the last few years? Devon Tengai650 wrote:

> Most of the state of PA, with 3/4 of the best riding concentrated in > the central/north central part of the state. > Mark > B2 > A2 > A3 > > At 12:47 AM -0500 2/5/02, Devon Jarvis wrote: > >Where are you talking about? > > > >Devon > > > >Tengai650 wrote: > > > >> >At 12:08 AM -0500 2/5/02, Devon Jarvis wrote: > >> >Those of you living out west, in the "wide open spaces"- take a > >>good look at > >> >the northeast. This is what it could be like for you in a few decades.... > >> > >> They'll have 4,500 miles of beautiful forested legal riding area? > >> Mark > >> B2 > >> A2 > >> A3 > > > > > >Checkout Dual Sport News at > >http://www.dualsportnews.com > >Be part of the Adventure! > > > >Visit the KLR650 archives at > >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > > > >Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com > >Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > >Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[monahanwb]

Out west here we have lots of "skid trails" in the coastal areas. They are little sidehill roads put in usually around the 50's and 60's by logging companies. Usually cut by a little D2 or something of that ilk, for skidding logs down to a "deck". Lots of obstacles, too. Any main skid trails that are frequently used have waterbars, which if you're on a KLR, really slow you down and kill your rhythm going up a steep switchback. In fact, if you're on a KLR for riding a skid trail, you're on the wrong bike. Maybe a XR250 might be better.

[Tengai650]

Basically zero, as 99% is state forest land and the Dept of Conservation and Natural Resources is generally friendly. About 3000 miles are forest road and the other 1500 miles are unmaintained old woods trail, legal for use by any vehicle eligible for street use in PA, i.e., Jeeps & DualSports... no dirtbikes or ATVs. ATVs do have several of their own dedicated areas though. Mark B2 A2 A3 At 1:01 AM -0500 2/5/02, Devon Jarvis wrote:

>That's about 5 hours driving from NYC. How much has the available >land shrunk in >the last few years? > >Devon > > >Tengai650 wrote: > >> Most of the state of PA, with 3/4 of the best riding concentrated in >> the central/north central part of the state. >> Mark >> B2 >> A2 >> A3 >> >> At 12:47 AM -0500 2/5/02, Devon Jarvis wrote: >> >Where are you talking about? >> > >> >Devon >> > >> >Tengai650 wrote: >> > >> >> >At 12:08 AM -0500 2/5/02, Devon Jarvis wrote: >> >> >Those of you living out west, in the "wide open spaces"- take a >> >>good look at >> >> >the northeast. This is what it could be like for you in a few >>decades.... >> >> >> >> They'll have 4,500 miles of beautiful forested legal riding area? >> >> Mark >> >> B2 >> >> A2 >> >> A3 >> > >> > >> >Checkout Dual Sport News at >> >http://www.dualsportnews.com >> >Be part of the Adventure! >> > >> >Visit the KLR650 archives at >> >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 >> > >> >Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >> >Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >> >List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com >> > >> >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >Checkout Dual Sport News at >http://www.dualsportnews.com >Be part of the Adventure! > >Visit the KLR650 archives at >http://www.listquest.com/lq/search.html?ln=klr650 > >Post message: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com >Subscribe: DSN_klr650-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >Unsubscribe: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >List owner: DSN_klr650-owner@yahoogroups.com > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Tengai650]

Well, I finally had the cash & time to get around to getting this project off the ground. I picked up my Barum C27 90/90x21 front tire a couple weeks ago. I had a hard time finding studs to fit in the little holes.So, I decided to experiment. I found nails that are the perfect size; the nail is about a hair wider than the hole and the nail head is about twice the diameter. I lube the head with rubber cement and with pliers, shove the nail in the hole. I then trim the nail down with wire cutters to about 1/16" above the knob surface, So far I installed 270 nails, at which point I ran out. There are a total of 800 holes, and I'm gonna fill 'em all.... hopefully before spring. Total cost of this experiment will be about $70. Mark B2 A2 A3