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[thotchi]

I was installing the handguards yesterday and found that the throttle tube was sticking out 2" from the end of the handlebar. I'm assuming this isn't correct because it was asymetric. Has anyone else experienced other problems due to dealer setup? -Tosh

[Chris]

Heh, this should be an interesting one...if people respond. Basically it's common that the dealers screw up the prep. If I ever buy a new bike in general, it's coming home and getting torn down for a once-over. We've had plenty of people describe front-end issues here over the years to find that their bike was delivered in the packing position with the tubes still 3" over the top of the triples...just one example that comes to mind. Dealer quality example...my local dealer painstakingly looked up the freaking cotter pin for the axle. Took them 15mins of monkeying around and finally they give it to me. Of course it was the wrong part, and of course $4 as opposed to $0.50 at a hardware store for the right one afterwards. That's what I get for being lazy and thinking the dealer could give me the right one while I was there anyway.

On 6/12/05, thotchi wrote: > I was installing the handguards yesterday and found that the throttle > tube was sticking out 2" from the end of the handlebar. I'm assuming > this isn't correct because it was asymetric. > > Has anyone else experienced other problems due to dealer setup? > > -Tosh > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[hymiejose]

these people do alot of different bikes, they are just going to go through a checklist.how well they follow it is an individual thing.just a job to most.i'd check everything as soon as possible,mine was low on oil from dealer.

[Jim]

Here's what I found out after purchasing my 2003 KL650-A15. Kawasaki publishes a "General Motorcycle Assembly and Preparation Manual". I have the Dec. 1995 version, P/N 99931-1311-01, 123 pages. Major sections are: Foreward, Emission Control Information, Tampering with Noise Control System Prohibited, Crate Handling, Uncrating, Assembly, Preparation, and A&P Check List (USA). The manual covers all types of Kawasaki M/C's. The dealer and customer are supposed to go over the A&P Check List prior to delivery and sign it, with a copy going to each. I never got one. Kawasaki also publishes a "Motorcycle Assembly and Preparation Sheet". I have the Oct. 2000(K) version, P/N 99931-1382-51, 8 pages, for "Model: KL650-A15" (2001). Major sections are: Notice to Dealers, Removed Parts (for shipping), Crate Handling, Uncrating, Assembly, and Preparation. I assume Kawasaki updates the "manual" periodically. I'm guessing Kawasaki publishes a "sheet" for every model each year. I got the P/N's in 2003 from the publications section of the parts diagram for the A17 on the Kawasaki website. It looks like Kawasaki has now removed the P/N's for publications other than the microfiche. Kawasaki Customer Services may provide updated P/N's if contacted by email. A&P deficiencies with my bike: 1. handlebar not positioned correctly, centering and angle 2. handlebar accessories needed repositioning due to mispositioned handlebar 3. handlebar knurling for clamps not centered 4. handlebar clamp screw cap missing (1) 5. handlebar clamp screw cap damaged (2) 6. right switch housing and front brake master cylinder positions reversed 7. left and right switch housing screw Phillips drive sockets damaged/rounded (3) 8. front turn signal light mounting nut not tightened 9. left hand guard special washer installed in wrong position 10. rear turn signal lights plastic clamps missing (2) 11. battery cover missing 12. clutch lever play incorrect 13. clutch cable nuts at lower end loose 14. throttle cables too tight (RPM goes up when handlebar turned) 15. brake pedal position low 16. idle speed too high (1500 RPM) 17. oil weeping from oil line fitting on cylinder head 18. white wax residue on black plastic rear carrier plate 19. seat pan rear mounting flange gouged/damaged by mispositioned collar washer 20. A&P Check List not completed, discussed with, or provided to customer Took care of all the deficiencies myself, and went over every detail of the A&P Sheet and Check List also. I did get my forks in the correct position though. I wouldn't think it would be too difficult to A&P a bike after doing a few, but I think the dealers don't put much effort into it, probably using the lowest level untrained person possible. Oh well, hope it's helpful. Jim A17

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "thotchi" wrote: > I was installing the handguards yesterday and found that the throttle > tube was sticking out 2" from the end of the handlebar. I'm assuming > this isn't correct because it was asymetric. > > Has anyone else experienced other problems due to dealer setup? > > -Tosh

[Jim]

Thats 2003 KL650-A17. Sorry. Jim

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" wrote: > Here's what I found out after purchasing my 2003 KL650-A15. > > Kawasaki publishes a "General Motorcycle Assembly and Preparation > Manual". I have the Dec. 1995 version, P/N 99931-1311-01, 123 pages. > Major sections are: Foreward, Emission Control Information, Tampering > with Noise Control System Prohibited, Crate Handling, Uncrating, > Assembly, Preparation, and A&P Check List (USA). The manual covers all > types of Kawasaki M/C's. The dealer and customer are supposed to go > over the A&P Check List prior to delivery and sign it, with a copy > going to each. I never got one. > > Kawasaki also publishes a "Motorcycle Assembly and Preparation Sheet". > I have the Oct. 2000(K) version, P/N 99931-1382-51, 8 pages, for > "Model: KL650-A15" (2001). Major sections are: Notice to Dealers, > Removed Parts (for shipping), Crate Handling, Uncrating, Assembly, and > Preparation. > > I assume Kawasaki updates the "manual" periodically. I'm guessing > Kawasaki publishes a "sheet" for every model each year. I got the > P/N's in 2003 from the publications section of the parts diagram for > the A17 on the Kawasaki website. It looks like Kawasaki has now > removed the P/N's for publications other than the microfiche. Kawasaki > Customer Services may provide updated P/N's if contacted by email. > > A&P deficiencies with my bike: > > 1. handlebar not positioned correctly, centering and angle > 2. handlebar accessories needed repositioning due to mispositioned > handlebar > 3. handlebar knurling for clamps not centered > 4. handlebar clamp screw cap missing (1) > 5. handlebar clamp screw cap damaged (2) > 6. right switch housing and front brake master cylinder positions > reversed > 7. left and right switch housing screw Phillips drive sockets > damaged/rounded (3) > 8. front turn signal light mounting nut not tightened > 9. left hand guard special washer installed in wrong position > 10. rear turn signal lights plastic clamps missing (2) > 11. battery cover missing > 12. clutch lever play incorrect > 13. clutch cable nuts at lower end loose > 14. throttle cables too tight (RPM goes up when handlebar turned) > 15. brake pedal position low > 16. idle speed too high (1500 RPM) > 17. oil weeping from oil line fitting on cylinder head > 18. white wax residue on black plastic rear carrier plate > 19. seat pan rear mounting flange gouged/damaged by mispositioned > collar washer > 20. A&P Check List not completed, discussed with, or provided to > customer > > Took care of all the deficiencies myself, and went over every detail > of the A&P Sheet and Check List also. I did get my forks in the > correct position though. > > I wouldn't think it would be too difficult to A&P a bike after doing a > few, but I think the dealers don't put much effort into it, probably > using the lowest level untrained person possible. > > Oh well, hope it's helpful. > > Jim A17 > > > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "thotchi" wrote: > > I was installing the handguards yesterday and found that the throttle > > tube was sticking out 2" from the end of the handlebar. I'm assuming > > this isn't correct because it was asymetric. > > > > Has anyone else experienced other problems due to dealer setup? > > > > -Tosh

[Stephan Moody]

When i got my klr, i watched them put it together out of the crate, and then did the pdi myself. But that is the advntage to working at the dealer. I dont know about other dealerships, but we don't have an actual checklist. We check the entire bike from oil level, cable routing, nuts and bolts(scary how many bikes from the factory have loose drainbolts),brakes, air pressure, etc. Your bike is checked over by somebody who rides, so it should be a common sense thing on what to check.Im curious to know just how many people bought a new bike that was not properly prepped. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Gary" wrote:

> I was riding on a dirt road when a little squirrel dashed out of front > of my bike.He stopped right in front of my bike and I nailed him,or so > I thought.When I looked back in the rear view mirror the little guy > was spinning around and around.I turned around and went back to see if > the little guy needed putting out of his misery.Next, he was chasing > his tail in circles.By the time I got to him..the little guy was > running like a drunk but he made it.I hope he was ok. > Apparently he ran into the side of the tire and got knocked for a loop. > Then later I almost ran over a little duckling that was standing in > the road.All the cute little furry and fuzzy critters were trying to > kill themselves under my my tires and the snakes that I wanted to run > over and kept aiming for were dodging me like crazy.I didn't know a > snake could move so fast to get out the way of a motorcycle. > Regards,Gary

Have you tried reasoning with them? It costs you nothing, and if it doesn't work, you're no worse off, and at least you can say you tried.