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reddogguy1
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Post by reddogguy1 » Thu Apr 28, 2005 9:52 am

My Opinion: BMW's - They look like a hammerhead shark. I love to see ride reports where the BMW street bikes (they call Adventure Bikes) are laying on their sides in the middle of a gravel road. When anyone gets above 650cc, they are on a Street Bike! I love my A16. I can't stand the thought of riding to the deer lease and once there, having to wrestle a street bike the last 6 miles down the nasty dirt road. When I show up on my KLR, I love the last six miles of that nasty dirt road. Once I have checked in at the lease, I do the 6 mile road over & over. Last weekend my bud (A15) & I (A16) went on a little 100 miler (all street) and ended our run at the local city park. They had some people with their vintage cars on display, racing boats, group of HD's, group of BMW's, and a group of sportbikes. We parked in the Dual-Sport area. Within 5 minutes: all the sportbike guys came over, most of the HD guys came over, and the vintage car guys came over. The vintage car & HD people were like: man I had an enduro in the 70's and I just don't see these anymore. We were like, yeah that's because we are in the woods and usually try to be where nobody goes. The sportbike guys were like: shit I gotta have one of these, can you wheelie, mind if I sit on it, oh this adjusts there? We were like, hell yeah we can wheelie. I guess the BMW guys were afraid we might ask them to ride w/ us. Point is the KLR will draw a crowd, get the looks, stir the imagination of riders, put that feeling in you like when you were 10 years old and up to no good. I felt like a 10 point buck coming out of the woods. This weekend we are going to show the sportbike guys our little 88 mile twistie route. Tony & I will have absolutely no problem leading the pack. We are going to have a blast, all of us. We are seriously thinking about a helmet cam to film our exploits. We probably committed over 100 moving violations Sunday - oops. Sorry officer this is a no wheelie zone? The speed limit is what? This road is really closed? Donuts are illegal? I thought everyone made a speed run here! We were just practicing wheelies so we would be safer in our traffic wheelies. I have mud over my inspection sticker? These tires look illegal? Yes that is beer in the cooler on the rack. Yes this is my gun in the tank bag. I will never be without a KLR. If my bride would ride - I would probably have a Strom in addition to my KLR.

Susan Walters
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Post by Susan Walters » Thu Apr 28, 2005 5:45 pm

Well, I get what you're saying but I disagree. I think it really depends on the rider. If I took that attitude, I'd have missed out this last year on riding with a couple of the most patient and skillful off-road riders I know. Both of them can take their GSs (an 1100 & and 1150) anywhere I can take my KLR and then some. Both will admit that ultimately for a really skilled rider there's that last place only the KLR will go (and one also owns a KLR) but at that point we're talking way more knarly than a "nasty dirt road." I just hate to see any of us "classifying" riders willy nilly because of the particular bike they ride. KLR riders don't like it when it's done to them; why would anyone else? The adventure spirit lives in a lot of people and it's got nothing to do with what kind of bike they ride. --- reddogguy1 wrote:
> My Opinion: > BMW's - They look like a hammerhead shark. I love > to see ride > reports where the BMW street bikes (they call > Adventure Bikes) are > laying on their sides in the middle of a gravel > road. When anyone > gets above 650cc, they are on a Street Bike! I love > my A16. I can't > stand the thought of riding to the deer lease and > once there, having > to wrestle a street bike the last 6 miles down the > nasty dirt road.
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John Kokola
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the bmw thing & the klr

Post by John Kokola » Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:34 pm

WHOOOOOOOOO ... --John Kokola
> -----Original Message----- > From: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com]On > Behalf Of Susan Walters > > I just hate to see any of us "classifying" riders > willy nilly because of the particular bike they ride. > KLR riders don't like it when it's done to them; why > would anyone else? The adventure spirit lives in a lot > of people and it's got nothing to do with what kind of > bike they ride.

scott quillen
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Post by scott quillen » Fri Apr 29, 2005 6:24 am

AMEN Susan!!! I couldn't have said it better myself!!! Regards, Scott --- Susan Walters wrote:
> Well, I get what you're saying but I disagree. I > think > it really depends on the rider. If I took that > attitude, I'd have missed out this last year on > riding > with a couple of the most patient and skillful > off-road riders I know. Both of them can take their > GSs (an 1100 & and 1150) anywhere I can take my KLR > and then some. Both will admit that ultimately for a > really skilled rider there's that last place only > the > KLR will go (and one also owns a KLR) but at that > point we're talking way more knarly than a "nasty > dirt > road." > > I just hate to see any of us "classifying" riders > willy nilly because of the particular bike they > ride. > KLR riders don't like it when it's done to them; why > would anyone else? The adventure spirit lives in a > lot > of people and it's got nothing to do with what kind > of > bike they ride. > > > --- reddogguy1 wrote: > > My Opinion: > > BMW's - They look like a hammerhead shark. I > love > > to see ride > > reports where the BMW street bikes (they call > > Adventure Bikes) are > > laying on their sides in the middle of a gravel > > road. When anyone > > gets above 650cc, they are on a Street Bike! I > love > > my A16. I can't > > stand the thought of riding to the deer lease and > > once there, having > > to wrestle a street bike the last 6 miles down the > > nasty dirt road. > ... > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > Archive Quicksearch at: >
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Kyle
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Post by Kyle » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:42 am

Yeah, Amen Susan. I'm just unsure what you're saying. Don't classify riders, while we are in a classified newsgroup? Would a KLR rider really care if they were classied? I doubt it. Patient and skillful is exactly what a big cc GS rider has to be. More so than a KLR rider when the asphault ends. But, I'm sure when a non-skilled amateur like myself puts past a skilled rider struggling on an 1150GS, the bmw rider has to be asking himself, "is this still fun...what am I trying to prove?". I believe that was reddog's focus. When you set out to have fun, and you're not, what's the point? Hey, I embrace all DS riders, no matter what bike. We all like to find humour in other people's mistakes, even our own. Most of us posting in this KLR group did classify ourselves. We are opinionated. Not all of us are as objective as Susan is, as some of us are not concerned with taking the middle ground to apeze others or being politically correct. I agree with Susan just as I agree with reddog. Authoring either comment though, reddog's humourous approach seems to realize that this is a KLR extension of the DSN. I think that's why the DSN groups ARE classified. ride on!
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, scott quillen wrote: > AMEN Susan!!! > > I couldn't have said it better myself!!! > > Regards, > Scott > > --- Susan Walters wrote: > > Well, I get what you're saying but I disagree. I > > think > > it really depends on the rider. If I took that > > attitude, I'd have missed out this last year on > > riding > > with a couple of the most patient and skillful > > off-road riders I know. Both of them can take their > > GSs (an 1100 & and 1150) anywhere I can take my KLR > > and then some. Both will admit that ultimately for a > > really skilled rider there's that last place only > > the > > KLR will go (and one also owns a KLR) but at that > > point we're talking way more knarly than a "nasty > > dirt > > road." > > > > I just hate to see any of us "classifying" riders > > willy nilly because of the particular bike they > > ride. > > KLR riders don't like it when it's done to them; why > > would anyone else? The adventure spirit lives in a > > lot > > of people and it's got nothing to do with what kind > > of > > bike they ride. > > > > > > --- reddogguy1 wrote: > > > My Opinion: > > > BMW's - They look like a hammerhead shark. I > > love > > > to see ride > > > reports where the BMW street bikes (they call > > > Adventure Bikes) are > > > laying on their sides in the middle of a gravel > > > road. When anyone > > > gets above 650cc, they are on a Street Bike! I > > love > > > my A16. I can't > > > stand the thought of riding to the deer lease and > > > once there, having > > > to wrestle a street bike the last 6 miles down the > > > nasty dirt road. > > ... > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > > www.dualsportnews.com > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > DSN_KLR650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com

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Post by scott quillen » Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:10 am

Kyle, Nothing wrong with "classifying riders" per se, as long as it's not done in a hateful, hurtful manner. If you or anyone else wants to classify me as a KLR rider who also rides a Harley, that's fine...as long as you don't STEREOTYPE me as one of those Yuppie Harley riders who trailers his bike everywhere and spends exhorbitant amounts of time "polishing the chrome" and being a "poser". I ride a Harley because I got a good deal on one and had wanted one since at least 1989. I'm VERY pleased with my Harley, as with my KLR. Even if you or someone else want to stereotype me, there's nothing I can do about it and couldn't really care less, because when it gets right down to it, it's a case of Mind over Matter". Since I don't personally know anyone who posts to this group, if they want to form impressions of me based on what I ride, I really don't MIND...because they DON'T MATTER... ;^) If it were a personal friend making inaccurate statements about me, I might be offended. Obviously, if that's the approach (insulting/hurtful) some want to take (and some postings would lead me to believe so)then that's their business and they're really only hurting themselves, because sooner or later, if the personal attacks continue, then they're going to be discounted as trolls, troublemakers or just flamers in general, whose postings will only be ignored or deleted when they hit the inbox, whether they have something of value to add to the group or not. IMO, there's too much of the following attitudes expressed: 1. BMWs (or any other DS bikes) are inferior to KLRs. 2. Harleys and their owners are the scum of the earth. Let's get real, people - this KLR group (if I'm not mistaken) was probably established to further the sport/hobby/passion of KLR riders/enthusiasts, by providing a good cross reference of maintenance issues and personal experiences with this fine DS mount. Jabbing at Beemers, Harleys, or anyting NOT a KLR is just sophomoric, at best! If one's only pleasure is derived from tearing down/judging others or their equipment, that person is deserving of MUCH sympathy, or disgust - take your pick. --- Kyle wrote:
> Yeah, Amen Susan. I'm just unsure what you're > saying. Don't classify > riders, while we are in a classified newsgroup? > Would a KLR rider > really care if they were classied? I doubt it. > Patient and skillful is > exactly what a big cc GS rider has to be. More so > than a KLR rider > when the asphault ends. But, I'm sure when a > non-skilled amateur like > myself puts past a skilled rider struggling on an > 1150GS, the bmw > rider has to be asking himself, "is this still > fun...what am I trying > to prove?". I believe that was reddog's focus. When > you set out to > have fun, and you're not, what's the point? Hey, I > embrace all DS > riders, no matter what bike. We all like to find > humour in other > people's mistakes, even our own. Most of us posting > in this KLR group > did classify ourselves. We are opinionated. Not all > of us are as > objective as Susan is, as some of us are not > concerned with taking the > middle ground to apeze others or being politically > correct. I agree > with Susan just as I agree with reddog. Authoring > either comment > though, reddog's humourous approach seems to realize > that this is a > KLR extension of the DSN. I think that's why the DSN > groups ARE > classified. > > ride on! > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, scott quillen > wrote: > > AMEN Susan!!! > > > > I couldn't have said it better myself!!! > > > > Regards, > > Scott > > > > --- Susan Walters wrote: > > > Well, I get what you're saying but I disagree. I > > > think > > > it really depends on the rider. If I took that > > > attitude, I'd have missed out this last year on > > > riding > > > with a couple of the most patient and skillful > > > off-road riders I know. Both of them can take > their > > > GSs (an 1100 & and 1150) anywhere I can take my > KLR > > > and then some. Both will admit that ultimately > for a > > > really skilled rider there's that last place > only > > > the > > > KLR will go (and one also owns a KLR) but at > that > > > point we're talking way more knarly than a > "nasty > > > dirt > > > road." > > > > > > I just hate to see any of us "classifying" > riders > > > willy nilly because of the particular bike they > > > ride. > > > KLR riders don't like it when it's done to them; > why > > > would anyone else? The adventure spirit lives in > a > > > lot > > > of people and it's got nothing to do with what > kind > > > of > > > bike they ride. > > > > > > > > > --- reddogguy1 wrote: > > > > My Opinion: > > > > BMW's - They look like a hammerhead shark. I > > > love > > > > to see ride > > > > reports where the BMW street bikes (they call > > > > Adventure Bikes) are > > > > laying on their sides in the middle of a > gravel > > > > road. When anyone > > > > gets above 650cc, they are on a Street Bike! I > > > love > > > > my A16. I can't > > > > stand the thought of riding to the deer lease > and > > > > once there, having > > > > to wrestle a street bike the last 6 miles down > the > > > > nasty dirt road. > > > ... > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > > > > >
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Post by John Kokola » Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:12 am

For me and for other folks that I like to ride with, it's not necessarily about being politically correct -- it's about being tired of seeing riders of different stripes bash each other (insert chest-beating here), knowing that it's bad for the sport that I care the most about. There's nothing wrong with being opinionated, but if someone is going to systematically categorize their fellow riders based on what brand they are loyal to, it becomes time for them to STFU. At the same time, if you consciously care about the sport, you tend to take the middle ground because collectively the sport benefits from that. --John Kokola
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Joe@ThePannells.com
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Post by Joe@ThePannells.com » Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:15 am

Very well put, and I couldn't agree more. Joe Texas Kyle, Nothing wrong with "classifying riders" per se, as long as it's not done in a hateful, hurtful manner. If you or anyone else wants to classify me as a KLR rider who also rides a Harley, that's fine...as long as you don't STEREOTYPE me as one of those Yuppie Harley riders who trailers his bike everywhere and spends exhorbitant amounts of time "polishing the chrome" and being a "poser". I ride a Harley because I got a good deal on one and had wanted one since at least 1989. I'm VERY pleased with my Harley, as with my KLR. Even if you or someone else want to stereotype me, there's nothing I can do about it and couldn't really care less, because when it gets right down to it, it's a case of Mind over Matter". Since I don't personally know anyone who posts to this group, if they want to form impressions of me based on what I ride, I really don't MIND...because they DON'T MATTER... ;^) If it were a personal friend making inaccurate statements about me, I might be offended. Obviously, if that's the approach (insulting/hurtful) some want to take (and some postings would lead me to believe so)then that's their business and they're really only hurting themselves, because sooner or later, if the personal attacks continue, then they're going to be discounted as trolls, troublemakers or just flamers in general, whose postings will only be ignored or deleted when they hit the inbox, whether they have something of value to add to the group or not. IMO, there's too much of the following attitudes expressed: 1. BMWs (or any other DS bikes) are inferior to KLRs. 2. Harleys and their owners are the scum of the earth. Let's get real, people - this KLR group (if I'm not mistaken) was probably established to further the sport/hobby/passion of KLR riders/enthusiasts, by providing a good cross reference of maintenance issues and personal experiences with this fine DS mount. Jabbing at Beemers, Harleys, or anyting NOT a KLR is just sophomoric, at best! If one's only pleasure is derived from tearing down/judging others or their equipment, that person is deserving of MUCH sympathy, or disgust - take your pick. --- Kyle wrote:
> Yeah, Amen Susan. I'm just unsure what you're > saying. Don't classify > riders, while we are in a classified newsgroup? > Would a KLR rider > really care if they were classied? I doubt it. > Patient and skillful is > exactly what a big cc GS rider has to be. More so > than a KLR rider > when the asphault ends. But, I'm sure when a > non-skilled amateur like > myself puts past a skilled rider struggling on an > 1150GS, the bmw > rider has to be asking himself, "is this still > fun...what am I trying > to prove?". I believe that was reddog's focus. When > you set out to > have fun, and you're not, what's the point? Hey, I > embrace all DS > riders, no matter what bike. We all like to find > humour in other > people's mistakes, even our own. Most of us posting > in this KLR group > did classify ourselves. We are opinionated. Not all > of us are as > objective as Susan is, as some of us are not > concerned with taking the > middle ground to apeze others or being politically > correct. I agree > with Susan just as I agree with reddog. Authoring > either comment > though, reddog's humourous approach seems to realize > that this is a > KLR extension of the DSN. I think that's why the DSN > groups ARE > classified. > > ride on! > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, scott quillen > wrote: > > AMEN Susan!!! > > > > I couldn't have said it better myself!!! > > > > Regards, > > Scott > > > > --- Susan Walters wrote: > > > Well, I get what you're saying but I disagree. I > > > think > > > it really depends on the rider. If I took that > > > attitude, I'd have missed out this last year on > > > riding > > > with a couple of the most patient and skillful > > > off-road riders I know. Both of them can take > their > > > GSs (an 1100 & and 1150) anywhere I can take my > KLR > > > and then some. Both will admit that ultimately > for a > > > really skilled rider there's that last place > only > > > the > > > KLR will go (and one also owns a KLR) but at > that > > > point we're talking way more knarly than a > "nasty > > > dirt > > > road." > > > > > > I just hate to see any of us "classifying" > riders > > > willy nilly because of the particular bike they > > > ride. > > > KLR riders don't like it when it's done to them; > why > > > would anyone else? The adventure spirit lives in > a > > > lot > > > of people and it's got nothing to do with what > kind > > > of > > > bike they ride. > > > > > > > > > --- reddogguy1 wrote: > > > > My Opinion: > > > > BMW's - They look like a hammerhead shark. I > > > love > > > > to see ride > > > > reports where the BMW street bikes (they call > > > > Adventure Bikes) are > > > > laying on their sides in the middle of a > gravel > > > > road. When anyone > > > > gets above 650cc, they are on a Street Bike! I > > > love > > > > my A16. I can't > > > > stand the thought of riding to the deer lease > and > > > > once there, having > > > > to wrestle a street bike the last 6 miles down > the > > > > nasty dirt road. > > > ... > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > > > > >
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Post by Kyle » Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:21 am

Scott, I agree with most of what you're saying. In fact I was about to reply to the HD postings. While my opinion of HD's is not favorable, I have no problem with them. But like you, have an opinion of the posers. But in honor of your well put statements, I will refrain from dogging any kind of bike, just to dog it. Honestly, I don't think HD's or any other mfr is worth discussing in this group if they don't make a DS bike. And really, don't ever defend your ownership of an HD. As we say in the world of shooting sports, I bought this gun, because I didn't have one. Simple as that. I bought a homosexual looking scooter a couple years back, and liked it. Why? It's got two wheels, and I didn't have one. HD's have two wheels. Someone with an HD and a KLR is a valuable resourse. The more bikes/type of bikes a person has, the more I value their opinions and ride impressions. Good post Scott. This group is starting to get entertaining, maybe even fun (course, I'm a captive audience while at work!) ^5 Kyle
--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, scott quillen wrote: > Kyle, > > Nothing wrong with "classifying riders" per se, as > long as it's not done in a hateful, hurtful manner. If > you or anyone else wants to classify me as a KLR rider > who also rides a Harley, that's fine...as long as you > don't STEREOTYPE me as one of those Yuppie Harley > riders who trailers his bike everywhere and spends > exhorbitant amounts of time "polishing the chrome" and > being a "poser". I ride a Harley because I got a good > deal on one and had wanted one since at least 1989. > I'm VERY pleased with my Harley, as with my KLR. > > Even if you or someone else want to stereotype me, > there's nothing I can do about it and couldn't really > care less, because when it gets right down to it, it's > a case of Mind over Matter". Since I don't personally > know anyone who posts to this group, if they want to > form impressions of me based on what I ride, I really > don't MIND...because they DON'T MATTER... ;^) If it > were a personal friend making inaccurate statements > about me, I might be offended. > > Obviously, if that's the approach (insulting/hurtful) > some want to take (and some postings would lead me to > believe so)then that's their business and they're > really only hurting themselves, because sooner or > later, if the personal attacks continue, then they're > going to be discounted as trolls, troublemakers or > just flamers in general, whose postings will only be > ignored or deleted when they hit the inbox, whether > they have something of value to add to the group or > not. > > IMO, there's too much of the following attitudes > expressed: > > 1. BMWs (or any other DS bikes) are inferior to KLRs. > 2. Harleys and their owners are the scum of the earth. > > Let's get real, people - this KLR group (if I'm not > mistaken) was probably established to further the > sport/hobby/passion of KLR riders/enthusiasts, by > providing a good cross reference of maintenance issues > and personal experiences with this fine DS mount. > > Jabbing at Beemers, Harleys, or anyting NOT a KLR is > just sophomoric, at best! > > If one's only pleasure is derived from tearing > down/judging others or their equipment, that person is > deserving of MUCH sympathy, or disgust - take your > pick. > > > --- Kyle wrote: > > > Yeah, Amen Susan. I'm just unsure what you're > > saying. Don't classify > > riders, while we are in a classified newsgroup? > > Would a KLR rider > > really care if they were classied? I doubt it. > > Patient and skillful is > > exactly what a big cc GS rider has to be. More so > > than a KLR rider > > when the asphault ends. But, I'm sure when a > > non-skilled amateur like > > myself puts past a skilled rider struggling on an > > 1150GS, the bmw > > rider has to be asking himself, "is this still > > fun...what am I trying > > to prove?". I believe that was reddog's focus. When > > you set out to > > have fun, and you're not, what's the point? Hey, I > > embrace all DS > > riders, no matter what bike. We all like to find > > humour in other > > people's mistakes, even our own. Most of us posting > > in this KLR group > > did classify ourselves. We are opinionated. Not all > > of us are as > > objective as Susan is, as some of us are not > > concerned with taking the > > middle ground to apeze others or being politically > > correct. I agree > > with Susan just as I agree with reddog. Authoring > > either comment > > though, reddog's humourous approach seems to realize > > that this is a > > KLR extension of the DSN. I think that's why the DSN > > groups ARE > > classified. > > > > ride on! > > > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, scott quillen > > wrote: > > > AMEN Susan!!! > > > > > > I couldn't have said it better myself!!! > > > > > > Regards, > > > Scott > > > > > > --- Susan Walters wrote: > > > > Well, I get what you're saying but I disagree. I > > > > think > > > > it really depends on the rider. If I took that > > > > attitude, I'd have missed out this last year on > > > > riding > > > > with a couple of the most patient and skillful > > > > off-road riders I know. Both of them can take > > their > > > > GSs (an 1100 & and 1150) anywhere I can take my > > KLR > > > > and then some. Both will admit that ultimately > > for a > > > > really skilled rider there's that last place > > only > > > > the > > > > KLR will go (and one also owns a KLR) but at > > that > > > > point we're talking way more knarly than a > > "nasty > > > > dirt > > > > road." > > > > > > > > I just hate to see any of us "classifying" > > riders > > > > willy nilly because of the particular bike they > > > > ride. > > > > KLR riders don't like it when it's done to them; > > why > > > > would anyone else? The adventure spirit lives in > > a > > > > lot > > > > of people and it's got nothing to do with what > > kind > > > > of > > > > bike they ride. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- reddogguy1 wrote: > > > > > My Opinion: > > > > > BMW's - They look like a hammerhead shark. I > > > > love > > > > > to see ride > > > > > reports where the BMW street bikes (they call > > > > > Adventure Bikes) are > > > > > laying on their sides in the middle of a > > gravel > > > > > road. When anyone > > > > > gets above 650cc, they are on a Street Bike! I > > > > love > > > > > my A16. I can't > > > > > stand the thought of riding to the deer lease > > and > > > > > once there, having > > > > > to wrestle a street bike the last 6 miles down > > the > > > > > nasty dirt road. > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > > protection around > > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: > > > > www.dualsportnews.com > > > > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: > > > > www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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the bmw thing & the klr

Post by reddogguy1 » Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:44 am

Kyle hit it on the head, and the guy after him. Some folks can't see the forest for the trees. Maybe for the tangent thinkers I should have written something like this: I have a KLR and I just love it. I have love for other bikes too. Those that get it, get it. ps: Ms. Susan, I would not think that you would know what it feels like to be excited as a 10 year old boy.

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