7" round headlight

[JohnD]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "JohnD" wrote:

> > I turned on the ignitionon my A12, everything looked bright and > fine. I push the starter button, and everything goes dark and

dead. Thanks to everyone for the suggestions. It'll be awhile before I can let you know what eventually solves the problem (slow worker, multiple projects, all toys with sparkplugs broken at same time). I have a peculiar saddle on my other bike but with some monkey- fingered wrenching, I should be able to get it off and get at the Panasonic battery. I'll try that...or maybe my lawn tractor battery and see what happens to the problem. If that doesn't work, I'll follow the directions for finding and cleaning the contacts on the solenoid. I guess the last step would be pulling the starter and having an auto electric shop test it. I'll be back... JohnD

[Analog Aardvark]

Not that I'd want to discourage anyone--much less my own father, out from under his technological rock to post on the internet--from cleaning and checking his starter solenoid posts... but just for my own clarity and future problem solving: Does the lights/accessories end of a KLR's electrical system care about the starter/ignition end in such a way that a starter solenoid issue could cause the headlight to go out??? I would have thought that, so long as the fuse is good and the ignition is on, if the battery is on then the lights should light. That little wire that feeds everything but the starter doesn't care about whether the starter solenoid(s) are doing their job, does it? Just trying to understand so I can avoid bumpstarting my own beast down some dark and lonely bayou nowhere. I, for one, vote dying battery if his connections are good and clean. -Luke

> > I turned on the ignitionon my A12, everything > looked bright and > > fine. I push the starter button, and everything > goes dark and dead. > > And stays dead for anywhere from 30 seconds to a > few minutes, no > > matter what I do with the key. Eventually, I can > switch on the > > ignition, and same thing happens the same way > again.

[SNIP]

> > > > Give the connections to the starter solenoid the > same treatment you gave the battery > terminals, making sure they are clean and tight. > > > > >

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[Dennis Griffin]

Very timely, Luke. You are correct in your suppositions, and the answer to both questions is no. I was just going to post, in response to JohnD's last post, that the condition of the connections, at the starter relay or starter motor, has nothing to do with any other electrical consumers on an unmodified KLR650. He originally stated that the lights were good until he hit the starter. Attempting to engage the starter motor puts a heavy demand on the battery, which can cause a faulty battery to open up momentarily, therefore taking the lights down temporarily also. Remember that there is already a 60 some watt load on the battery as soon as the key is turned on on a stock KLR. So I'm sticking with my original long distance assessment that he has a bad battery, with the remote possibility of corrosion between a battery cable and its lug or a weak frame ground. Confirming that the battery connections through the starter relay to starter motor, and the starter motor ground, are all clean & conductive is good preventative maintenance, but I don't see the condition of these connections as having a bearing on the problem as he described it. Dennis

On Sep 4, 2006, at 6:53 PM, Analog Aardvark wrote: > Not that I'd want to discourage anyone--much less my > own father, out from under his technological rock to > post on the internet--from cleaning and checking his > starter solenoid posts... but just for my own clarity > and future problem solving: Does the > lights/accessories end of a KLR's electrical system > care about the starter/ignition end in such a way that > a starter solenoid issue could cause the headlight to > go out??? I would have thought that, so long as the > fuse is good and the ignition is on, if the battery is > on then the lights should light. That little wire > that feeds everything but the starter doesn't care > about whether the starter solenoid(s) are doing their > job, does it? > > Just trying to understand so I can avoid bumpstarting > my own beast down some dark and lonely bayou nowhere. > I, for one, vote dying battery if his connections are > good and clean. > > -Luke > > > > I turned on the ignitionon my A12, everything > > looked bright and > > > fine. I push the starter button, and everything > > goes dark and dead. > > > And stays dead for anywhere from 30 seconds to a > > few minutes, no > > > matter what I do with the key. Eventually, I can > > switch on the > > > ignition, and same thing happens the same way > > again. > > [SNIP] > > > > > > > Give the connections to the starter solenoid the > > same treatment you gave the battery > > terminals, making sure they are clean and tight. > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]