paul's trip report

[azman321]

Welcome aboard, Roy. KLR's aren't pretty but they're a boatload of fun. Something's probably dirty or clogged a bit somewhere in the carbueration circuit, but you probably alread knew that. There are some real experts on this list that can point you in the direction of rebuilding the carb if needed. I have had this happen a few times when the KLR goes 3 or 4 weeks without being ridden. I give the tank a shot of carbuerator cleaner (I use Gumout cause that's what I used as a kid, but they're probably all good), and run a tank of gas through it and it's just fine. For $2 or $3, I think it's worth a try. If that doesn't do it, you can go on to more serious measures. Jett, A15 AZ --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "doneworkin1248" wrote:

> I am new to the KLR650 world and new to this group. I could use

some

> help. The bike is used but seems well cared for. The only problem > this far is hard starting. If I use the choke it will fire but

fails

[Jim A Backer]

When I first bought my A6 it started hard but after running it 40-50 miles it got much better. Almost like it was complaining about being required to move. It had been setting for almost a year. Now with fresh gas and a couple hundred miles it starts very well. jim A6 02gl18 WY ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

[dooden]

My A15 was very hard starting also, what I found helped alot was removing the metal cap on the Idle Mixture screw (Pilot Circuit) and backing the excessly lean factory settings. Most find this set at about 1 3/4 turns from bottomed out. I am about 2 1/4 turns out and it not only starts much better, on decelloration the exhaust popping went away. Ths was using the OEM muffler, I tried a Cobra pipe with that setting and it was lean again, but the pipe was so friggen loud it had to come off. http://members.aol.com/roundr1/CVK40.html bout 3/4 of the way down the page it shows a bottom view with (plug removed) I would try that before any other changes. Dooden A15 Green Ape --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "doneworkin1248" wrote:

> I am new to the KLR650 world and new to this group. I could use some > help. The bike is used but seems well cared for. The only problem > this far is hard starting. If I use the choke it will fire but fails > to keep running. I have tried variations of choke and throttle but > nothing works. If I do get it to fire and baby it along until it > warms a little then it runs and restarts just fine. If I get it > running using the choke and touch the throttle to keep it running it > shuts down right away. If I try to start it without the choke I get > nothing. I would think that these things are designed to start fairly > easy or I would have read more about the problem. The bike came with > a jet kit in it. It also came with another entire parts bike (bought > from insurance company after accident). I was having the starting > problems so I switched out carbs for the stock one on the parts bike. > Things didn't change any. perhaps there is a choke adjustment that I > need to know about. Any help would be apprecitated. > > Roy

[rsanders30117]

From what I've picked up from the net & my own experiences, KLR650 are notorious for hard starting after sitting several days or more. Mine reliably does this (usually waiting for a part to arrive). If I run mine daily, it starts & runs very much better.

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Dooden" wrote: > My A15 was very hard starting also, what I found helped alot was > removing the metal cap on the Idle Mixture screw (Pilot Circuit) and > backing the excessly lean factory settings. Most find this set at > about 1 3/4 turns from bottomed out. I am about 2 1/4 turns out and > it not only starts much better, on decelloration the exhaust popping > went away. Ths was using the OEM muffler, I tried a Cobra pipe with > that setting and it was lean again, but the pipe was so friggen loud > it had to come off. > > http://members.aol.com/roundr1/CVK40.html > > bout 3/4 of the way down the page it shows a bottom view with (plug > removed) > > I would try that before any other changes. > > Dooden > A15 Green Ape > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "doneworkin1248" > wrote: > > I am new to the KLR650 world and new to this group. I could use some > > help. The bike is used but seems well cared for. The only problem > > this far is hard starting. If I use the choke it will fire but fails > > to keep running. I have tried variations of choke and throttle but > > nothing works. If I do get it to fire and baby it along until it > > warms a little then it runs and restarts just fine. If I get it > > running using the choke and touch the throttle to keep it running it > > shuts down right away. If I try to start it without the choke I get > > nothing. I would think that these things are designed to start fairly > > easy or I would have read more about the problem. The bike came with > > a jet kit in it. It also came with another entire parts bike (bought > > from insurance company after accident). I was having the starting > > problems so I switched out carbs for the stock one on the parts bike. > > Things didn't change any. perhaps there is a choke adjustment that I > > need to know about. Any help would be apprecitated. > > > > Roy

[Douglas Dick]

Mine must be an oddball. I just prepped it after sitting for 5 months and it started after cranking for about ten seconds, and that was probably the time it needed to fill the carb. With my Honda CB 900, I used to have to either use ether or pull-start it around the block with a car before it would come to life. By the way, don't try using ether to start your bike. It is reputed to be a little hard on the connecting rods. If your starting up a JD diesel tractor, their rods are thick enough to handle the strain. Douglas Dick Winnipeg MB mailto:ddick2@... KLR650 A16 -----Original Message----- From: rsanders30117 [mailto:rsand_@...] Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 7:03 AM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Re: hard starting From what I've picked up from the net & my own experiences, KLR650 are notorious for hard starting after sitting several days or more. Mine reliably does this (usually waiting for a part to arrive). If I run mine daily, it starts & runs very much better.

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "Dooden" wrote: > My A15 was very hard starting also, what I found helped alot was > removing the metal cap on the Idle Mixture screw (Pilot Circuit) and > backing the excessly lean factory settings. Most find this set at > about 1 3/4 turns from bottomed out. I am about 2 1/4 turns out and > it not only starts much better, on decelloration the exhaust popping > went away. Ths was using the OEM muffler, I tried a Cobra pipe with > that setting and it was lean again, but the pipe was so friggen loud > it had to come off. > > http://members.aol.com/roundr1/CVK40.html > > bout 3/4 of the way down the page it shows a bottom view with (plug > removed) > > I would try that before any other changes. > > Dooden > A15 Green Ape > > > > > --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "doneworkin1248" > wrote: > > I am new to the KLR650 world and new to this group. I could use some > > help. The bike is used but seems well cared for. The only problem > > this far is hard starting. If I use the choke it will fire but fails > > to keep running. I have tried variations of choke and throttle but > > nothing works. If I do get it to fire and baby it along until it > > warms a little then it runs and restarts just fine. If I get it > > running using the choke and touch the throttle to keep it running it > > shuts down right away. If I try to start it without the choke I get > > nothing. I would think that these things are designed to start fairly > > easy or I would have read more about the problem. The bike came with > > a jet kit in it. It also came with another entire parts bike (bought > > from insurance company after accident). I was having the starting > > problems so I switched out carbs for the stock one on the parts bike. > > Things didn't change any. perhaps there is a choke adjustment that I > > need to know about. Any help would be apprecitated. > > > > Roy List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links

[Gabe]

OK, I need some help from the collective KLR brain on this: I have an '05 (A19?). It's my first bike, just got it. Sweeeet! It has 2400 miles on it and appears to in great shape. However when starting cold it seems to have a hard time getting going. The starter seems to be cranking fine, but the engine just seems like it's not firing up as easily as it should. I do open up the choke when it's cold. When it's warm, it has no problem. Any Ideas? Air filter maybe?

[Blake Sobiloff]

On 4/29/05, Gabe wrote:

> It has 2400 miles on it and appears to in great shape. However when > starting cold it seems to have a hard time getting going.

I'd first check the choke cable and make sure its connected and adjusted properly. -- Blake Sobiloff San Mateo, CA (USA)

[Gabe]

the thing is the choke seems to be working fine when once engine fires up. It revs high, then goes back down to normal as the choke is moved back to the closed position. It just seems like it has to turn over too much before it will fire up...

> > It has 2400 miles on it and appears to in great shape. However

when

> > starting cold it seems to have a hard time getting going. > > I'd first check the choke cable and make sure its connected and > adjusted properly. >

[don cain]

Are you opening the throttle up when you're trying to start it? If so - don't....... -d

On 4/29/05, Gabe wrote: > the thing is the choke seems to be working fine when once engine fires > up. It revs high, then goes back down to normal as the choke is moved > back to the closed position. > > It just seems like it has to turn over too much before it will fire > up... > > > > It has 2400 miles on it and appears to in great shape. However > when > > > starting cold it seems to have a hard time getting going. > > > > I'd first check the choke cable and make sure its connected and > > adjusted properly. > > > > Archive Quicksearch at: http://www.angelfire.com/ut/moab/klr650_data_search.html > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at: www.dualsportnews.com > List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > -- --My greatest fear in life is not death, but waking up one morning ordinary and predictable.

[Jud Jones]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Gabe" wrote:

> the thing is the choke seems to be working fine when once engine fires > up. It revs high, then goes back down to normal as the choke is moved > back to the closed position. > > It just seems like it has to turn over too much before it will fire > up... > > > > It has 2400 miles on it and appears to in great shape. However > when > > > starting cold it seems to have a hard time getting going. > > > > I'd first check the choke cable and make sure its connected and > > adjusted properly. > >

Start with the easy stuff: Drain the float bowl to be sure you are not dealing with condensation in the fuel, check the gap and condition of the plug (and cap and wire), and run a half can of Sea Foam through in the fuel to see if maybe the pilot jet is varnished up. Check for air leaks around the carb boot. You may need to clean the pilot jet manually. When were the valves last adjusted? Check the valve lash.