T-ABC Badge

[BUD SILVERS]

Correction:



Jim Shade (FDShade@aol.com ) OUR esteemed leader..



Bud Silvers

TC 1576 - Low n slo in the Black Forest of Colorado......



From: Bud Silvers [mailto:mgtc@usaviator.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 2:54 PM
To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] T-ABC Badge





Good afternoon all;

Check with Jim Shade ( FDShade@aol.com ) or
esteemed leader with Yahoo. Jim
and Walter had some made several years ago and I believe he still has some
for sale. Not sure of the price, but whatever it is will be fair.

Have a great day.

I am dong construction clean up and Rat Killing (small finishing jobs) on my
shop. Soon the TC will enter.

Bud Silvers

TC 1576 - Low n slo in the Black Forest of Colorado......

From: Marty [mailto:alis4@yahoo.com ]
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 2:22 PM
To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mg-tabc] T-ABC Badge

I am also looking for one. Anyone else have one for sale.

Thanks,
Marty
alis4@yahoo.com

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[joecurto@aol.com]

I have one I will part with if Walter does not have

JOE CURTO INC
_www.joecurto.com_ (http://www.joecurto.com/)
joecurto@aol.com
(718) 762 - 7878 -9-5 EST
22-09 126th Street
College Point, NY 11356


In a message dated 8/8/2009 4:57:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
mgtc@usaviator.net writes:




Correction:

Jim Shade (_FDShade@aol.FDS_ (mailto:FDShade@aol.com) ) OUR esteemed
leader..

Bud Silvers

TC 1576 - Low n slo in the Black Forest of Colorado....TC

From: Bud Silvers [mailto:_mgtc@usaviator.mgt_ (mailto:mgtc@usaviator.net)
]
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 2:54 PM
To: _mg-tabc@yahoogroupsmg-t_ (mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com)
Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] T-ABC Badge

Good afternoon all;

Check with Jim Shade ( _FDShade@aol.FDS_ (mailto:FDShade@aol.com)
) or
esteemed leader with Yahoo. Jim
and Walter had some made several years ago and I believe he still has some
for sale. Not sure of the price, but whatever it is will be fair.

Have a great day.

I am dong construction clean up and Rat Killing (small finishing jobs) on
my
shop. Soon the TC will enter.

Bud Silvers

TC 1576 - Low n slo in the Black Forest of Colorado....TC

From: Marty [mailto:_alis4@yahoo.ali_ (mailto:alis4@yahoo.com)
]
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 2:22 PM
To: _mg-tabc@yahoogroupsmg-t_ (mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com)

Subject: [mg-tabc] T-ABC Badge

I am also looking for one. Anyone else have one for sale.

Thanks,
Marty
_alis4@yahoo.ali_ (mailto:alis4@yahoo.com)


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[Austin R. Baer]

I have the original art work (color separation plates) that I did when I designed the T-ABC badge. Don't know if Jim has any left, or if Jim is willing to go through the hassle of getting more made up. The supplier did an excellent job at a reasonable price in Taiwan, and perhaps 1) if enough members are still interested in a badge, 2) if someone is willing to help Jim in the ordering and mailing of the badges after receipt (which was really an quite an undertaking that I could not continue), I could furnish the artwork to the same or another qualified supplier.

There has been occasional interest in making up beer mugs and other paraphernalia from the badge design, including a wall clock. The design is the exclusive property of the group, and Walter, Jim and I have agreed that we really don't want to allow the use of the club logo for a truck stop souvenirs. In the past, I've had polo shirts made for the group with some success, despite the size and order-filling difficulties of a limited silk-screen run, but I'm unable to run that rodeo again either.

Given the large increase in list membership, I'd suggest that if someone is interested in tabulating the interest in another badge run and/or shirt project, that he/she make himself/herself known. I'll still be able to make minor inputs on production quality, and holler if it's not right. Problem is, and has always been, staying with the original artwork to avoid the degeneration that comes from making copies from copies, etc., and maintaining the integrity of the design for the badge and a very limited number of justifiable applications. Sort of the OP for the logo.

Comments welcome, on or off line.

Best to all,

Austin
TC EXU 8362
Sarasota

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[John McNarry]

Hello Austin



I would be interested in acquiring a badge if a run is made.

It would be nice to display the badge in tribute to the help this group is
to the restoration and maintenance of TC's



John McNarry TC 6338



-----Original Message-----
From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Austin R. Baer
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 7:40 PM
To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mg-tabc] Re: T-ABC Badge





I have the original art work (color separation plates) that I did when I
designed the T-ABC badge. Don't know if Jim has any left, or if Jim is
willing to go through the hassle of getting more made up. The supplier did
an excellent job at a reasonable price in Taiwan, and perhaps 1) if enough
members are still interested in a badge, 2) if someone is willing to help
Jim in the ordering and mailing of the badges after receipt (which was
really an quite an undertaking that I could not continue), I could furnish
the artwork to the same or another qualified supplier.

There has been occasional interest in making up beer mugs and other
paraphernalia from the badge design, including a wall clock. The design is
the exclusive property of the group, and Walter, Jim and I have agreed that
we really don't want to allow the use of the club logo for a truck stop
souvenirs. In the past, I've had polo shirts made for the group with some
success, despite the size and order-filling difficulties of a limited
silk-screen run, but I'm unable to run that rodeo again either.

Given the large increase in list membership, I'd suggest that if someone is
interested in tabulating the interest in another badge run and/or shirt
project, that he/she make himself/herself known. I'll still be able to make
minor inputs on production quality, and holler if it's not right. Problem
is, and has always been, staying with the original artwork to avoid the
degeneration that comes from making copies from copies, etc., and
maintaining the integrity of the design for the badge and a very limited
number of justifiable applications. Sort of the OP for the logo.

Comments welcome, on or off line.

Best to all,

Austin
TC EXU 8362
Sarasota

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[Ben Cordsen]

Austin,



I am familiar with badge production and have a few badge manufacturers I have used worldwide plus in the USA for our local club. As always, quality and price are the main concerns along with reliability of the production.



You have already done the hard part in the design of the badge and have the digital images. My preference would be to use the original manufacturer as they would have the art in their files and could supply the exact same badge.



I will throw my hat in the ring if Jim is unable to coordinate the badges and have them manufactured.



In my business, I am familiar and comfortable with worldwide shipping/mailing and the various forms for duty and customs necessary. Our group is well beyond the borders of the USA and the forms, while easy to figure out need to be done correctly.

Ben

Ben Cordsen
Cordsen Design Studio
2849 Dunbar Avenue
Fort Collins, Colorado 80526
970.229.0891
www.CordsenDesign.com







To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com
From: lazybear@alum.mit.edu
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 20:40:15 -0400
Subject: [mg-tabc] Re: T-ABC Badge





I have the original art work (color separation plates) that I did when I designed the T-ABC badge. Don't know if Jim has any left, or if Jim is willing to go through the hassle of getting more made up. The supplier did an excellent job at a reasonable price in Taiwan, and perhaps 1) if enough members are still interested in a badge, 2) if someone is willing to help Jim in the ordering and mailing of the badges after receipt (which was really an quite an undertaking that I could not continue), I could furnish the artwork to the same or another qualified supplier.

There has been occasional interest in making up beer mugs and other paraphernalia from the badge design, including a wall clock. The design is the exclusive property of the group, and Walter, Jim and I have agreed that we really don't want to allow the use of the club logo for a truck stop souvenirs. In the past, I've had polo shirts made for the group with some success, despite the size and order-filling difficulties of a limited silk-screen run, but I'm unable to run that rodeo again either.

Given the large increase in list membership, I'd suggest that if someone is interested in tabulating the interest in another badge run and/or shirt project, that he/she make himself/herself known. I'll still be able to make minor inputs on production quality, and holler if it's not right. Problem is, and has always been, staying with the original artwork to avoid the degeneration that comes from making copies from copies, etc., and maintaining the integrity of the design for the badge and a very limited number of justifiable applications. Sort of the OP for the logo.

Comments welcome, on or off line.

Best to all,

Austin
TC EXU 8362
Sarasota

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[joecurto@aol.com]

Austin I have a fellow here in NYC who does promotional stuff including my
own coffee mugs and I am currently having lapel pins made, I do not know
how large an item they can make but the stuff I am getting is very nice. I
will ask him what they can do. Personally I would have gone with a
cream/crackers backround.

JOE CURTO INC
_www.joecurto.com_ (http://www.joecurto.com/)
joecurto@aol.com
(718) 762 - 7878 -9-5 EST
22-09 126th Street
College Point, NY 11356


In a message dated 8/9/2009 8:41:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lazybear@alum.mit.edu writes:




I have the original art work (color separation plates) that I did when I
designed the T-ABC badge. Don't know if Jim has any left, or if Jim is
willing to go through the hassle of getting more made up. The supplier did an
excellent job at a reasonable price in Taiwan, and perhaps 1) if enough
members are still interested in a badge, 2) if someone is willing to help Jim in
the ordering and mailing of the badges after receipt (which was really an
quite an undertaking that I could not continue), I could furnish the artwork
to the same or another qualified supplier.

There has been occasional interest in making up beer mugs and other
paraphernalia from the badge design, including a wall clock. The design is the
exclusive property of the group, and Walter, Jim and I have agreed that we
really don't want to allow the use of the club logo for a truck stop
souvenirs. In the past, I've had polo shirts made for the group with some success,
despite the size and order-filling difficulties of a limited silk-screen
run, but I'm unable to run that rodeo again either.

Given the large increase in list membership, I'd suggest that if someone
is interested in tabulating the interest in another badge run and/or shirt
project, that he/she make himself/herself known. I'll still be able to make
minor inputs on production quality, and holler if it's not right. Problem
is, and has always been, staying with the original artwork to avoid the
degeneration that comes from making copies from copies, etc., and maintaining
the integrity of the design for the badge and a very limited number of
justifiable applications. Sort of the OP for the logo.

Comments welcome, on or off line.

Best to all,

Austin
TC EXU 8362
Sarasota

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[law@billraymer.com]

Me too.

Bill near Ann Arbor TB0500 XPAG768
-----Original Message-----
From: John McNarry [mailto:mcnarryjr@goinet.ca]
Sent: Sunday, August 9, 2009 11:05 PM
To: ''Austin R. Baer''
Cc: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Re: T-ABC Badge

Hello Austin

I would be interested in acquiring a badge if a run is made.

It would be nice to display the badge in tribute to the help this group is
to the restoration and maintenance of TC's

John McNarry TC 6338

-----Original Message-----
From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Austin R. Baer
Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 7:40 PM
To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [mg-tabc] Re: T-ABC Badge

I have the original art work (color separation plates) that I did when I
designed the T-ABC badge. Don't know if Jim has any left, or if Jim is
willing to go through the hassle of getting more made up. The supplier did
an excellent job at a reasonable price in Taiwan, and perhaps 1) if enough
members are still interested in a badge, 2) if someone is willing to help
Jim in the ordering and mailing of the badges after receipt (which was
really an quite an undertaking that I could not continue), I could furnish
the artwork to the same or another qualified supplier.

There has been occasional interest in making up beer mugs and other
paraphernalia from the badge design, including a wall clock. The design is
the exclusive property of the group, and Walter, Jim and I have agreed that
we really don't want to allow the use of the club logo for a truck stop
souvenirs. In the past, I've had polo shirts made for the group with some
success, despite the size and order-filling difficulties of a limited
silk-screen run, but I'm unable to run that rodeo again either.

Given the large increase in list membership, I'd suggest that if someone is
interested in tabulating the interest in another badge run and/or shirt
project, that he/she make himself/herself known. I'll still be able to make
minor inputs on production quality, and holler if it's not right. Problem
is, and has always been, staying with the original artwork to avoid the
degeneration that comes from making copies from copies, etc., and
maintaining the integrity of the design for the badge and a very limited
number of justifiable applications. Sort of the OP for the logo.

Comments welcome, on or off line.

Best to all,

Austin
TC EXU 8362
Sarasota

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[FDShade@aol.com]

In light of the recent email from Austin, I have decided that the badge
issue is too confusing for me to pursue the manufacture of more T-ABC badges.

----------------Just to inform you of the situation

Several weeks ago, when I asked Austin for the original art work in order
to reproduce the T-ABC car badge, he responded that he had "improved" the
design.

I then advised Austin that I did not think we should change the design from
the original, as all members should have the exact same T-ABC car badge.

Austin then refused to send me the original art work.

I then took my original badge to the original vendor and asked him to
reproduce it - and ordered 50 badges.

As you all know by now, the vendor botched the job and I decided to seek
another vendor if there were 100 members that were interested in purchasing a
badge.

I have no idea why Austin does not want to have the original badge
duplicated.

I have no problem with members ordering badges from Austin - just
understand that they will not be the original design.


Jim Shade
West Covina, California, USA

PS Since profit from the sale of badges funds the website, it may now be
necessary to request donations, HOWEVER, please do not send donations at
this time. Maybe Austin will contribute profit from the sales of his badges
to the group?


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[claude lardans]

Hello Russ,   I received my badge today.
It is a very beautiful work.
Thanks to all who made possible the manufacturing of this new badge.   Regards to all,   Claude Lardans - TC6637 -France