Re: Update from Jim

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Andrew Clayton
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Re: Update from Jim

Post by Andrew Clayton » Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:39 pm

Hi Don,

You took the words right out of my mouth. I've just sent an email to Colin
asking if he has any pics and offering to send mine. I don't think I ever
got any pictures from you - do you have some now you could send me?

BTW, I've recently found out more history on my car, thanks to a chap in the
local MG club with a very long and accurate memory. He recognised it as the
car built by a young engineer called Tony Penington in the early '60's. Tony
built it up from a bare chassis, making the body and almost everything else
by hand - that's why it's a bit odd in quite a few of the details. It was
built as a bit of a hot-rod with a very warm Holden (GM) 6 cylinder engine
bored out to about 190 ci. It ran the usual stuff like triple SU's, hot cam,
extractors, etc and by all accounts was rather quick (for a TC) - top speed
around 130mph and quarter miles in under 13 seconds. Tony ran it in a few
club events at the time but his first love was power boat racing and he
never kept records or photos of his racing. I've managed to get some photos
from a later owner with the car just as it was built, and it looks rather
neat with 3 carbies sticking out of the wrong side of the bonnet and twin
exhausts exiting in front of the passengers side wheel arch. I'll try to
scan them in and send them to Walter at some stage if anyones interested.

The good news is that Tony is still around and I 've shown him the car. It's
very much as he built it except it now has a (relatively) standard XPAG and
the rear end setup he built (telescopic dampers, panhard rod, tramp rods)
has been replaced with a standard setup. Nevertheless, it was very exciting
to meet him and talk about the car and I'm now in the process of applying
for a Historic racing log book to run as it was in the '60's. I've found a
motor to use and it should be a pretty good project for our winter coming
up. Now, if only had used a V8 instead all those years ago......... :)

Cheers,

Andrew Clayton
Melbourne, Australia
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald Wilkinson"
To: ;
Cc:
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 05:53 AM
Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Update from Jim


>
> Hey Jim:
>
> digitaldon is VERY intrigued by the below in today's update:
>
> >Harris, Colin ----------- _lizandtweed@yahoo.co.uk_
> (mailto:lizandtweed@yahoo.co.uk) ----Royston in Hertfordshire, UK
> 1947 TC 2259 XPAG 2948
>
> who writes: after drooling over the cars in the `gallery` for the past
few
> months I`m now the proud owner of XSU 390...not it`s original UK
> registration no. because it spent some years your side of the pond. I am
> trying to find
> out more of the history and will update you when I can. You never know
> someone may remember the car. It has some interesting `mods`.... modified
> Morris
> Minor 1000 rack and pinnion steering, fitted some years ago by the last
> owner,
> and a Volvo 144 all synchro gearbox being the most radical. The original
> items came with the car and can go straight back with no ill after
effects.
> There
> are now specialists offering VW Golf steering gear and indeed a Ford type
9
> five speed gearbox. Will `post` some pictures when I get some back<
>
> digitaldon is PARTICULARLY piqued by Colin's reference to a Morris Minor
R&P
> installed in 2259, and likely very similar to the one in 7993, which
> digitaldon is extremely reluctant to give up in favor of one of the more
> politically correct setups that have been discussed at length the last
year
> or two. Andy Clayton in Oz also has one installed in 4054
> (andyc@alphalink.com.au) and was kind enough to send me extensive pics of
> it. Can't wait to see Colin's. Perhaps he could post 'em to Walter who
> might be persuaded to add 'em to the site. By tomorrow or Tuesday will be
> just fine, guyz. ;
> Don
> TC 7993
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Gene Gillam
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Re: Update from Jim

Post by Gene Gillam » Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:48 am

Andy wrote:
"I've managed to get some photos from a later owner with the car just as
it was built, and it looks rather neat with 3 carbies sticking out of
the wrong side of the bonnet and twin exhausts exiting in front of the
passengers side wheel arch. I'll try to scan them in and send them to
Walter at some stage if anyone's interested."



Andy,

I don't know about the rest of the group but I'd love to see the photos
- so if they don't get posted on the T-ABC site I'd appreciate it if you
could send them to me directly.

Thanks,
Gene


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Kevin Poole
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Re: Update from Jim

Post by Kevin Poole » Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:41 am

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Clayton"
> He recognised it as the
> car built by a young engineer called Tony Penington in the early
> '60's.



This might be too much of a coincidence but... this Tony Penington
wasn't by any chance in the UK in the sixties?

I ask because I do recall the name A Penington or Pennington as a former
owner of the TC I owned from 1969 to the late eighties. I'd love to
know what's happened to this car, but I didn't (as one didn't at the
time) pay much attention to the chassis number and can't recall it. I
do know that it was first registered in 1947 with the UK
(Middlesex)registration SMH 359. I have a few photos of it before,
during, and after restoration which I'd be delighted to pass on to its
current owner.

When I finished restoring it, in 1973, it was regarded as one of the
best, and took second place in the Octagon Car Club's national concours,
but standards then rose so rapidly that it would no longer pass muster.

TC8512 now beckons me to a repeat restoration, but this time getting it
right (perhaps). But will I enjoy driving it as much as I did throwing
SMH 359 around Durham in 1969, hoping the string would keep the doors
shut?


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Car Transport by Tiltbed Trailer - based near Derby, UK

Andrew Clayton
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Re: Update from Jim

Post by Andrew Clayton » Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:29 pm

No worries Gene, either way, I'll get the pictures to you. I have to scan
them first and I'm flat out this week with work but should find time in the
next week or so to do it. I'll keep you informed....

Cheers,

Andrew
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Gillam"
To: "'T-ABC forum'"
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 01:48 AM
Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Update from Jim


>
> Andy wrote:
> "I've managed to get some photos from a later owner with the car just as
> it was built, and it looks rather neat with 3 carbies sticking out of
> the wrong side of the bonnet and twin exhausts exiting in front of the
> passengers side wheel arch. I'll try to scan them in and send them to
> Walter at some stage if anyone's interested."
>
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>
> Andy,
>
> I don't know about the rest of the group but I'd love to see the photos
> - so if they don't get posted on the T-ABC site I'd appreciate it if you
> could send them to me directly.
>
> Thanks,
> Gene
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Re: Update from Jim

Post by Andrew Clayton » Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:33 pm

"This might be too much of a coincidence but... this Tony Penington wasn't
by any chance in the UK in the sixties?"

I don't know but I'll ask for you. My only information is that he built my
car in about 1963 through to '65, then ran it for a couple of years before
selling it in about '67. After that, I don't know if he stayed in Australia
but I've passed on your email to him and we'll see what he says.

Cheers,

Andrew
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From: "Kevin Poole"
To: "T-ABC forum"
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 02:38 AM
Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Update from Jim


>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Clayton"
> > He recognised it as the
> > car built by a young engineer called Tony Penington in the early
> > '60's.
>
>
>
> This might be too much of a coincidence but... this Tony Penington
> wasn't by any chance in the UK in the sixties?
>
> I ask because I do recall the name A Penington or Pennington as a former
> owner of the TC I owned from 1969 to the late eighties. I'd love to
> know what's happened to this car, but I didn't (as one didn't at the
> time) pay much attention to the chassis number and can't recall it. I
> do know that it was first registered in 1947 with the UK
> (Middlesex)registration SMH 359. I have a few photos of it before,
> during, and after restoration which I'd be delighted to pass on to its
> current owner.
>
> When I finished restoring it, in 1973, it was regarded as one of the
> best, and took second place in the Octagon Car Club's national concours,
> but standards then rose so rapidly that it would no longer pass muster.
>
> TC8512 now beckons me to a repeat restoration, but this time getting it
> right (perhaps). But will I enjoy driving it as much as I did throwing
> SMH 359 around Durham in 1969, hoping the string would keep the doors
> shut?
>
>
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> B270NZ, SA1838, TC8512, GAN3/48519, GAN4/63840, GHD5/324616
> Car Transport by Tiltbed Trailer - based near Derby, UK
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Update from Jim

Post by FDShade@aol.com » Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:31 am

Welcome to our 643rd member:

Langelaan, Valentijn ---------------- _vs.l@tiscali.nl_
(mailto:vs.l@tiscali.nl) -------- Bergen, Holland
1937 TA 1517 engine # 32031

origal motor XPAG 1775

===and 644th


Giffen, Hank ----------- _HGIFFIN@cox.net_ (mailto:HGIFFIN@cox.net)
--------------- Norfolk, VA, USA
1947 TC 5535 XPAG 3059

who wrote: "TC has been racing for several decades. Tommy Berent, a notable
Canadian racer was very succesful with it.

===and it finally quit raining here in southern California - after 31 inches
- but

another storm coming in this week-end :-\

Jim Shade, West Covina CA



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Bob Grunau
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Re: Update from Jim

Post by Bob Grunau » Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:47 pm

===and 644th


Giffen, Hank ----------- _HGIFFIN@cox.net_ (mailto:HGIFFIN@cox.net)
--------------- Norfolk, VA, USA
1947 TC 5535 XPAG 3059

who wrote: "TC has been racing for several decades. Tommy Berent, a
notable
Canadian racer was very succesful with it.

I too raced TC-5535 as long ago as 1975 at Three Rivers Quebec. Car was fast
but blew a core plug in practice. I have some photos of the car way back
then.
Bob Grunau

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Update from Jim

Post by FDShade@aol.com » Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:38 pm

Welcome to our 645th member:

Trout, Evan ------------ _evan_trout@yahoo.com_
(mailto:evan_trout@yahoo.com) -----------Fremont, CA, USA
1949 TC ???? eng # ????

=== and -- 646th

Morehead, Tim ------------ _tx-buckeyes@sbcglobal.net_
(mailto:tx-buckeyes@sbcglobal.net) ----- Dallas, TX, USA

who just purchased a basket case TC (numbers to follow)

=== and -- for songs by Vera Lynn

try -> _http://l.swazzo.tripod.com/veralynn.html_
(http://l.swazzo.tripod.com/veralynn.html) for songs of Vera Lynn

Jim Shade, West Covina CA



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Update from Jim

Post by FDShade@aol.com » Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:33 pm

Welcome to our 644th member:

Kimberlin, Dan & Jo, --- _danandjo@juno.com_ (mailto:danandjo@juno.com)
------- Charlotte, NC, USA
1938 TA 2926 MPJG 3129

who wrote:

(under restoration, we are trying for MG2006) was Red, will be Cream with
Dark Tan fenders
color interior Dark Tan Leather, was grayish plastic nicely done, but what
a waste of labor.)


=== and 645th member

Schneider, Ulrich ------ _ulrich.schneider@telebel.de_
(mailto:ulrich.schneider@telebel.de) -----Wuppertal-Germany
1949 TC 8286



===and 646th

Dyer, Charles ---------------- _marybethdyer@greennet.net_
(mailto:marybethdyer@greennet.net) ------`Hamilton, MA, USA
1948 TC 6977 XPAG 7866

===and 647th

Jenkins, Robert & Betsy _--------bjlazyl@msn.com_
(mailto:--------bjlazyl@msn.com) ---- Grenada,MS, USA
1939 TB 0468 XPAGA94398


=== but goodbye to:

Tiim Moorhead ---- _tx-buckyees@sbcglobal.net_
(mailto:tx-buckyees@sbcglobal.net) ---------Dallas, TX, USA

===and - very sorry to report the passing of



Patenburg, Herbert ---- _mg-herb@web.de_ (mailto:mg-herb@web.de) ----
Germany
1947 TC 3622 XPAG 3894

Herbert was not only a T-ABC member, but also the president of the
MGCC

===and that's it - we gain some we lose some

Jim Shade, West Covina CA


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Update from Jim

Post by FDShade@aol.com » Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:49 am

Welcome to our 647th member:

Mazgaj, Jan ----- _JDCornwallDev@aol.com_ (mailto:JDCornwallDev@aol.com)
---Launcestaon, Cornwall, UK
TC 7498 XPAG 1523

Who writes:

TC- Yellow Interior Fawn/Beige
TD- Green Interior Fawn/Beige
TF- Black Interior Fawn/ Beige

===and - 648th member:

Roper, Norman & Mary -- _Norman@RoperMail.com_
(mailto:Norman@RoperMail.com) -- Onchan, Isle of Man, British Isles
1936 TA 0746 MPJG 994



===but - goodbye to Eberhard Persicke (_Eberhard@persicke.biz_
(mailto:Eberhard@persicke.biz) )

who wrote:
last week I fell for a Jag XK 120 and sold my TA. So its time to say
sayonara: Please remove me from the mailing list.
Thanks for the good advice I received on some occasions. Good luck and of
course happy motoring to all members of the TABC-List.

Viele Gruesse aus Remseck,
Eberhard Persicke

=== and - that's it for now from

Jim Shade, West Covina CA



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