Re: TC toe in

[Pavone, John (Corporate)]

Graham,

You may have to fabricate a new drag link and tie rod to fit the available rod ends. These guys can make them up at a very reasonable price:

Prince Engineering
Pat Prince
815-625-8116

Now, you have me thinking of doing this mod too!


JP

TC2797

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Graham,

You can get them here: http://www.pegasusautoracing.com/group.asp?GroupID=AURORA

JP

TC2797

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Where do I get them and what do I ask for?

Graham




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[Joe Gates]

JP wrote

> You may have to fabricate a new drag link and tie rod to fit the available
> rod ends....

When I had the ball joints fitted, I sourced high pressure, seamless
hydraulic tubing of the appropriate diameter and wall thickness to
accommodate the thread size of the jonts that my friendly machinist tapped
and threaded. See too this link for some interesting comment on the
subject: -

http://bulletproofsteering.com/steeringsystems.html

Joe

[Jeff Redman]

G'day Graham,

A word of warning re 'Rose Joints'
The type suitable for automotive applications differs substantially from
the more common industrial spherical bearings. Not only in cost but in
load and shock load capacity.
I'd check with a reputable speed shop or engineer before making a move.
Hate to see your steering fall to bits at speed!

Reddo

-----Original Message-----
From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Graham Knight
Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2005 4:43 AM
To: Roger Furneaux
Cc: Peter Roberts; .T-ABCs
Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] TC toe in

Roger,

>Rose joints are "rod end bearings" as used on hydraulic cylinders and

racing

>cars for many years. They comprise a spherical stainless steel inner

ball

>with through hole for mounting, which rotates in a plastic outer part

which

>is crimped into a plated steel housing, with either male or female

threaded

>ends.

Where do I get them and what do I ask for?

Graham




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[Charles Hill]

Graham,

Now that we have been all through heim/rose joints and everything, I
would suggest that unless you have a compelling reason not to, stick
with the orginal TC steering setup. I admit that its not the best
design ever, but its serviceable and has held up for 50+ years.
Heim/rose joints will work but you will need a new tie rod and drag link
for them. Also you will need very good bolts and nuts to connect
everything. They are also labor intensive. You need to keep them lubed
as they have no covers. In their normal use on race cars it not a
problem as if the car last a whole season, its usually completely
rebuilt for the next season and any suspect part is replaced.
Conventional steering ball joints are another option but they have a
tapered shaft. All the joints on a TC /except/ the drop arm are
straight bored. Your steering arms would have to be machined for the
correct taper along with buying all the links and joints. Whatever you
do, be very careful. People have died from driving TCs with poorly
engineered steering modifications.

Hope I don't depress you too much.

Charles Hill


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