rear axil

[MGTC1946@aol.com]

what is the best method of installing a half shaft in a rear hub ? should locktite be used? how much force should be needed? should it be lubricated ? is freezing needed? thanks, charlie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[MGTC1946@aol.com]

group, when you press a half shaft onto a hub , how far into the hub should i press the axil? i notice that at the end of the slots or groves cut into the axil that the depth of the groves begin to shallow in the last half to one quarter inch. is this what brings the press fit up to 6000 to 12000 lbs? because it is not very tight at all up to this point. thanks, charlie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Bob Grunau]

Charlie, length of TC axle is 21 7/16" from inner end of shaft to flat face of hub where the axle enters the hub. The axle shaft splines are too long. No, the 6000 to 12,700 lbs force is for the interference fit of the shaft to the hub along the parrallel section of the splines. If it is "not very tight" it is too loose and you are wasting your time. You need new parts, shaft, hub, or both. Bob Grunau -----Original Message----- From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of MGTC1946@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 11:19 PM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [mg-tabc] rear axil group, when you press a half shaft onto a hub , how far into the hub should i press the axil? i notice that at the end of the slots or groves cut into the axil that the depth of the groves begin to shallow in the last half to one quarter inch. is this what brings the press fit up to 6000 to 12000 lbs? because it is not very tight at all up to this point. thanks, charlie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links

[Bob Grunau]

Charlie, as previously indicated, 6000 to 12,700 lbs press fit is the required amount. Loctite, welding, darning needles etc. are all temporary 'bodges" and will not work long term. You may need new tapered axle shafts and taper bore your hub for a permanent solution. Or a new tapered shaft and taper bored hub if your old wheel splines are worn below 2.440" ( 2.450" is NOS size ) . The axle and hub must act as a single component and no looseness or movement is allowed. Bob Grunau -----Original Message----- From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of MGTC1946@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:07 PM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [mg-tabc] rear axil what is the best method of installing a half shaft in a rear hub ? should locktite be used? how much force should be needed? should it be lubricated ? is freezing needed? thanks, charlie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links

[Greg Hoeft]

Hi Bob What is the expected fit or acceptable play with the dif end of the axle? Is there a repair or is replacement the only option? Greg Hoeft TC1415 "Venerable Vernette"

>From: "Bob Grunau" grunau.garage@sympatico.ca> >Reply-To: grunau.garage@sympatico.ca> >To: MGTC1946@aol.com>,mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] rear axil >Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:33:27 -0400 > >Charlie, >length of TC axle is 21 7/16" from inner end of shaft to flat face of hub >where the axle enters the hub. The axle shaft splines are too long. No, the >6000 to 12,700 lbs force is for the interference fit of the shaft to the >hub >along the parrallel section of the splines. If it is "not very tight" it is >too loose and you are wasting your time. You need new parts, shaft, hub, or >both. >Bob Grunau > >-----Original Message----- >From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf >Of MGTC1946@aol.com >Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 11:19 PM >To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com >Subject: [mg-tabc] rear axil > > >group, when you press a half shaft onto a hub , how far into the hub should >i press the axil? i notice that at the end of the slots or groves cut into >the axil that the depth of the groves begin to shallow in the last half to >one >quarter inch. is this what brings the press fit up to 6000 to 12000 lbs? >because it is not very tight at all up to this point. thanks, charlie > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

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[Bob Grunau]

Greg, I would say there is no tolerance given for wear at the spider gear end. I have never seen a TC rear axle with very severe wear on the inner end. Usually any wear is confined to the axle shafts as the gears are hardened. My new tapered axler shafts are a light push fit into the spider gears. Bob Grunau Hi Bob What is the expected fit or acceptable play with the dif end of the axle? Is there a repair or is replacement the only option? Greg Hoeft TC1415 "Venerable Vernette"

>Charlie, >length of TC axle is 21 7/16" from inner end of shaft to flat face of hub >where the axle enters the hub. The axle shaft splines are too long. No, the >6000 to 12,700 lbs force is for the interference fit of the shaft to the >hub >along the parrallel section of the splines. If it is "not very tight" it is >too loose and you are wasting your time. You need new parts, shaft, hub, or >both. >Bob Grunau >

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