TA Seat foundation material

[BDavis]

Hi Folks... I'm working on the seats of my ole TA and wondering if there's a replacement source for the foundation materials. I seem to remember my TC had only foam rubber over a wedged plywood platform. The TA has a foam cushion over bags of something (cotton?) and with the age and deterioration of the foam and the compression of the bags of cotton, long drives are tough on my ole posterior. To help explain I've posted some photos at: http://geocities.com/bdavispics/MG/TA_Seat.html I wonder if anyone else has encountered this arrangement (and this problem) and what solution you've used??? Thanks in advance for any help or advise. Bill Davis - Nashville, TN ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com

[BDavis]

Thanks guys, for the great help and rapid replies on the TA seat foundation. Obviously my "original" foundation wasn't!! Apologies for my ignorance. Most likely the materials in my seats had been inserted through the flap at the back of the seat ...replacing the ORIGINAL inflatable rubber bladder. So I'll probably do whatever it takes to make it look 'right' and still please the rump! Many thanks again guys... and especially Ian for the photos. I keep thinking how much I could have used all your great help back in the '60s! Where was Al Gore and 'his' internet back then?!!!!! Bill Driving atop a wooden box in Nashville. ____________________________________________________ Sell on Yahoo! Auctions no fees. Bid on great items. http://auctions.yahoo.com/

[Chip Old]

Bill, I didn't see your original questions or the answers. Very strange! Anyway, not all TA seats had inflatable bladders. If I remember correctly, early ones did, later ones didn't.

On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 08:58 -0700, BDavis wrote: > Thanks guys, for the great help and rapid replies on the TA seat > foundation. > Obviously my "original" foundation wasn't!! Apologies for my > ignorance. > > Most likely the materials in my seats had been inserted through the > flap at the back of the seat ...replacing the ORIGINAL inflatable > rubber bladder. > So I'll probably do whatever it takes to make it look 'right' and still > please the rump! > Many thanks again guys... and especially Ian for the photos. > > I keep thinking how much I could have used all your great help back in > the '60s! > Where was Al Gore and 'his' internet back then?!!!!! > > Bill > Driving atop a wooden box in Nashville. -- Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC Cub Hill, Maryland TC6710 XPAG7430 fold@bcpl.net NEMGTR #2271

[BDavis]

Chip... If the later TAs didn't use the bladders do you know what they used? TA 2190 is a mid-March, 1938 model and has a B270 body. That's probably considered a late model. The TA Parts List seems to concentrate on the B269 body listing only the slide frame and channel for the B270. Bill - Nashville ----Chip wrote---->

> Bill, > > I didn't see your original questions or the answers. Very strange! > Anyway, not all TA seats had inflatable bladders. If I remember > correctly, early ones did, later ones didn't. > > Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC > Cub Hill, Maryland TC6710 XPAG7430 > fold@bcpl.net NEMGTR #2271

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[Terry Sanders]

Bill, my TA Service Parts List dated Sept. 1939 and revised in 1946 seems to indicate that All TA's and TB's had bladders. I expect they perished quickly and folks then used whatever to build up the seat. As I said, my TA2139 had patented Dunlop "pillows" in it. They are still in there. Terry BDavis bdavispics@yahoo.com> wrote: Chip... If the later TAs didn't use the bladders do you know what they used? TA 2190 is a mid-March, 1938 model and has a B270 body. That's probably considered a late model. The TA Parts List seems to concentrate on the B269 body listing only the slide frame and channel for the B270. Bill - Nashville ----Chip wrote---->

> Bill, > > I didn't see your original questions or the answers. Very strange! > Anyway, not all TA seats had inflatable bladders. If I remember > correctly, early ones did, later ones didn't. > > Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC > Cub Hill, Maryland TC6710 XPAG7430 > fold@bcpl.net NEMGTR #2271

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[Charles Hill]

Wonder if they are the same size as the "Dunoppillow" used in Morgans until relatively recent times? If so, they are almost as rare as alloy valve covers, but available. Last I heard, Melvyn Rutter (http://www.melvyn-rutter.co.uk) had them. Don't know the price, but better sit down before you ask. Nothing "uncle Melvyn" sells has a stigma of a low price. Regards, Charles Hill Terry Sanders wrote:

>Bill, my TA Service Parts List dated Sept. 1939 and revised in 1946 seems to indicate that All TA's and TB's had bladders. I expect they perished quickly and folks then used whatever to build up the seat. As I said, my TA2139 had patented Dunlop "pillows" in it. They are still in there. >Terry > >BDavis bdavispics@yahoo.com> wrote: >Chip... >If the later TAs didn't use the bladders do you know what they used? > >TA 2190 is a mid-March, 1938 model and has a B270 body. That's probably >considered a late model. The TA Parts List seems to concentrate on the >B269 body listing only the slide frame and channel for the B270. > >Bill - Nashville > >----Chip wrote----> > > >>Bill, >> >>I didn't see your original questions or the answers. Very strange! >>Anyway, not all TA seats had inflatable bladders. If I remember >>correctly, early ones did, later ones didn't. >> >>Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC >>Cub Hill, Maryland TC6710 XPAG7430 >>fold@bcpl.net NEMGTR #2271 >> >> > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > >

[1939mgtb]

Terry is correct; the TA's and TB's all had bladders....and later, bladder problems. When I re-stuffed the seats, I went with modern TC innards. Best, Ray "Deo Vindice"

----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Sanders" taterry@pacbell.net> To: "BDavis" bdavispics@yahoo.com>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 6:24 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Re: Re: TA Seat foundation material > Bill, my TA Service Parts List dated Sept. 1939 and revised in 1946 seems > to indicate that All TA's and TB's had bladders. I expect they perished > quickly and folks then used whatever to build up the seat. As I said, my > TA2139 had patented Dunlop "pillows" in it. They are still in there. > Terry > > BDavis bdavispics@yahoo.com> wrote: > Chip... > If the later TAs didn't use the bladders do you know what they used? > > TA 2190 is a mid-March, 1938 model and has a B270 body. That's probably > considered a late model. The TA Parts List seems to concentrate on the > B269 body listing only the slide frame and channel for the B270. > > Bill - Nashville > > ----Chip wrote----> >> Bill, >> >> I didn't see your original questions or the answers. Very strange! >> Anyway, not all TA seats had inflatable bladders. If I remember >> correctly, early ones did, later ones didn't. >> >> Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC >> Cub Hill, Maryland TC6710 XPAG7430 >> fold@bcpl.net NEMGTR #2271 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > >

[BDavis]

Terry.... My TA Parts List (same dates) seems to indicate the same. I'm assuming that the Dunlop "pillows" you mention in 2139 are the inflatable rubber bladder type. Do you suppose the 'stuffing' could have changed between your 2139 and my 2190? I surely don't know! This I know: 2190 had the "flaps" at the back of the seats. And the LEATHER had NEVER been removed from the plywood 'base' before I removed it. Note that I'm saying the 'leather' had never been removed... NOT that the 'foundation' (stuffing) had never been replaced. Whether the 'stuffing' therein had been replaced or whether, as Chip Old suggests, 'latter models' had a different type of foundation (stuffing) now seems to be the question. Could it be possible that the 'early' type LEATHER seat (with flaps) had been used to cover some OTHER type of foundation??? If so, at what production number might this have taken place? (Ours are only 51 production numbers apart. And I'd consider them both late models but I don't know for sure.) I'm guessing that you have the (later) B270 body. Is that correct? So I have no idea if some other foundation, (except for the suggestion which Chip makes) was used. Do you??? (Aside from the seeming indication that the TA Parts List makes of course!) I'm not trying to be quarrelsome here... Just wondering what the hell all this 'stuff' is in my seats. And now wondering if anyone else has encountered something similar (or different!) in their ("late" TA) seats. If they ALL used 'bladders' then I'm happy to believe that... Now how do we convince Chip otherwise? And where's the OP when you need them? Either way that stuff is going to be replaced with something a bit more cushy for my 'pumpkin'! Bill - Atop a 'Badger-Aproved' Box in Nashville --- Terry Sanders taterry@pacbell.net> wrote:

> Bill, my TA Service Parts List dated Sept. 1939 and revised in 1946 > seems to indicate that All TA's and TB's had bladders. I expect they > perished quickly and folks then used whatever to build up the seat. > As I said, my TA2139 had patented Dunlop "pillows" in it. They are > still in there. > Terry

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[Terry Sanders]

No Bill, the pillow I am talking about was not an inflatable bladder but rather a fixed foam, very dense with molded in holes.....rather like really old rubber matteresses....I think I had one as an asmatic kid. Terry BDavis bdavispics@yahoo.com> wrote: Terry.... My TA Parts List (same dates) seems to indicate the same. I'm assuming that the Dunlop "pillows" you mention in 2139 are the inflatable rubber bladder type. Do you suppose the 'stuffing' could have changed between your 2139 and my 2190? I surely don't know! This I know: 2190 had the "flaps" at the back of the seats. And the LEATHER had NEVER been removed from the plywood 'base' before I removed it. Note that I'm saying the 'leather' had never been removed... NOT that the 'foundation' (stuffing) had never been replaced. Whether the 'stuffing' therein had been replaced or whether, as Chip Old suggests, 'latter models' had a different type of foundation (stuffing) now seems to be the question. Could it be possible that the 'early' type LEATHER seat (with flaps) had been used to cover some OTHER type of foundation??? If so, at what production number might this have taken place? (Ours are only 51 production numbers apart. And I'd consider them both late models but I don't know for sure.) I'm guessing that you have the (later) B270 body. Is that correct? So I have no idea if some other foundation, (except for the suggestion which Chip makes) was used. Do you??? (Aside from the seeming indication that the TA Parts List makes of course!) I'm not trying to be quarrelsome here... Just wondering what the hell all this 'stuff' is in my seats. And now wondering if anyone else has encountered something similar (or different!) in their ("late" TA) seats. If they ALL used 'bladders' then I'm happy to believe that... Now how do we convince Chip otherwise? And where's the OP when you need them? Either way that stuff is going to be replaced with something a bit more cushy for my 'pumpkin'! Bill - Atop a 'Badger-Aproved' Box in Nashville --- Terry Sanders wrote:

> Bill, my TA Service Parts List dated Sept. 1939 and revised in 1946 > seems to indicate that All TA's and TB's had bladders. I expect they > perished quickly and folks then used whatever to build up the seat. > As I said, my TA2139 had patented Dunlop "pillows" in it. They are > still in there. > Terry

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[Diecuts@aol.com]

Hi all, For what it's worth, TA2969 tickford has bladders but , while still there, they are deflated with added foam to make up the difference when the seats were redone. Looks right and feels better. Terry, did the SAs have bladders? I haven't looked at the seats yet and have no idea. Cheers, Lee Jacobsen, MI [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]