Brake bleeding

Peter Roberts
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Brake bleeding

Post by Peter Roberts » Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:38 am

Hi Folks! I am still working on my brake mystery and thought I would pass along some good news. For those who have yet to become acquainted with the trials of one man brake bleeding, let me introduce Speed Bleeder. They are well known to the racing community, but new to me. Speed Bleeders replace the bleed screws in your wheel cylinders. The are built with a ball and spring mechanism that provides a one-way valve. Open them a quarter turn with no concern for allowing air to bleed back into the system. Thus, you can get behind the wheel and push the brake pedal without the need for a Trusted Assistant to open and close the bleed screw. On TC 0604 the correct size to order is 7/16 X 20 for the front cylinders, and 5/16 X 24 for the rears. Go to www.speedbleeder.com for details. They are nice folks and very helpful. Gosh, it is a pleasure to recommend a good product, even though I have no connection with the outfit. _Peter

Bron Prokuski
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Re: Brake bleeding

Post by Bron Prokuski » Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:58 pm

The Speed Bleeders Peter recommends below are excellent. Quick, easy install and work like a charm. Just installed on the TCs and getting a set for the TD. -----Original Message----- From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Roberts Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:38 AM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [mg-tabc] Brake bleeding Hi Folks! I am still working on my brake mystery and thought I would pass along some good news. For those who have yet to become acquainted with the trials of one man brake bleeding, let me introduce Speed Bleeder. They are well known to the racing community, but new to me. Speed Bleeders replace the bleed screws in your wheel cylinders. The are built with a ball and spring mechanism that provides a one-way valve. Open them a quarter turn with no concern for allowing air to bleed back into the system. Thus, you can get behind the wheel and push the brake pedal without the need for a Trusted Assistant to open and close the bleed screw. On TC 0604 the correct size to order is 7/16 X 20 for the front cylinders, and 5/16 X 24 for the rears. Go to www.speedbleeder.com for details. They are nice folks and very helpful. Gosh, it is a pleasure to recommend a good product, even though I have no connection with the outfit. _Peter Yahoo! Groups Links

Paroor
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Brake bleeding

Post by Paroor » Tue Aug 15, 2006 12:19 am

Hi Meyer, There are several method used for bleeding the brake system, but and I did it this way last month. Got some one to assist me, he sat on the driver seat and push the brake pedal while me bleeding the wheels. In our TC the bleeding nipples are mounted higher than the MC. Started with the longest pipe from the MC first. In the case of TC it is the rear driver side. First filled the MC reservoir with brake fluid to the top. I bought a small transparent rubber pipe from the local shop ( $ 0,50 a meter length) pushed on to the bleeding nipple of the wheel cylinder. The other end of rubber pipe (say about 12 inches long ) is kept in a small clean glass/bottle to collect the fluid coming out while bleeding. Here I could see the air bubbles and impurities coming out through the transparent rubber pipe. Requested the helper to pump the brake pedal few times and hold it there till I finished the bleeding work. Asked him never release the pedal before I close the nipple. If he do so air may get back to the system. If there is air in the system the pedal feel soft because the air in the system can be compressed. Now I opened the bleeding nipple. I could watch that the fluid and air bubbles coming out through the transparent pipe. At the same time the brake pedal went down to the floor. Now the helper shouted and reported and I closed the nipple. Filled brake fluid in the MC again. Repeat the bleeding two or three times this way till I saw that there is no visible air bubble or impurities coming out through the pipe. After driver side rear wheel, I did the near side rear wheel, then the front near side and finally the front driver side with the shortest pipe from the MC. The result was very good and took only few minutes to do it. Sorry about writing too much and boring those who are not interested in working on brakes at present. Madhu [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Frank O_ The Mountain
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Brake bleeding

Post by Frank O_ The Mountain » Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:48 pm

Has anyone devised a method to keep the M/C can full of fluid while bleeding?? Terry in Oakland [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

anngene@bellsouth.net
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Re: Brake bleeding

Post by anngene@bellsouth.net » Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:35 pm

Terry in Oakland asked: "Has anyone devised a method to keep the M/C can full of fluid while bleeding??" Let me be first...yeah, have your better half under the dash with a can of brake fluid. Best regards, Gene Gillam who has just had a run-in with the neighbor from hell in Saucier, MS [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Ian Linton
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Re: Brake bleeding

Post by Ian Linton » Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:42 pm

Terry, the Easybleed brake-bleeding kit does this and provides a separate reservoir. It also comes with the correct cap to fit the TA/B/C master cylinder. And you can do the brake blleding easily by yourself. Just watch you have the cap screwed on tight to avoid spillage. Usual disclaimers, & regards to all, Ian Linton TA3120 East Sussex, UK
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js4955
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Re: Brake bleeding

Post by js4955 » Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:15 pm

Yes, you use your loyal wife! Jim in sunny Tucson
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Dirk Dondorp
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Re: Brake bleeding

Post by Dirk Dondorp » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:46 am

Hi Terry, I did away with all that crawling, and dirt possilbilties in the M/C can on the floor. Closed the lid on the M/C can forever by soldering it tight. On it fitted a pipe connection (first part flexible for movement) going all the way up in the battery compartment with a see through brake fluid reservoir, which can be checked at all times. Topping up dead easy and if you check how much you bleed, you can easily refill in top reservoir. Just a thought. Dirk TC0660 Hamburg Am 16.03.2011 um 22:47 schrieb taterry@aol.com:
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Bill Hyatt
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Re: Brake bleeding

Post by Bill Hyatt » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:42 am

Terry, Check out Phoenix System brake bleeding scheme & brake fluid contamination test strips. See http://www.phoenixsystem.com/products_by_type/brake_bleeders/v12_brake_bleed er.htm Their scheme & tools allow an "arse" backward flush or bleed. Concept is that air bubbles naturally rise to M/C when pressure forced by introducing fluid at bleed screw thus insuring a more reliable & complete purge of air bubbles in line. Bill TC 4926 Odessa, Florida From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of taterry@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 5:48 PM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [mg-tabc] Brake bleeding Has anyone devised a method to keep the M/C can full of fluid while bleeding?? Terry in Oakland [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Clifford Knight
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Re: Brake bleeding

Post by Clifford Knight » Fri Mar 18, 2011 9:54 am

Bill, That's a new device to me. Does it actually work with that little seperate by pass seal in our master cylinders? Also I wonder how it copes with dual brake circuit shut off valves. If anyone has used one and can confirm that they work on the above I would be grateful. Thanks Cliff (Athens, Greece)
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Bill Hyatt usaj24@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > Terry, > > Check out Phoenix System brake bleeding scheme & brake fluid contamination > test strips. See > > http://www.phoenixsystem.com/products_by_type/brake_bleeders/v12_brake_bleed > er.htm Their scheme & tools allow an "arse" backward flush or bleed. > Concept is that air bubbles naturally rise to M/C when pressure forced by > introducing fluid at bleed screw thus insuring a more reliable & complete > purge of air bubbles in line. > > Bill > > TC 4926 > > Odessa, Florida > > From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf > Of > taterry@aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 5:48 PM > To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [mg-tabc] Brake bleeding > > Has anyone devised a method to keep the M/C can full of fluid while > bleeding?? > Terry in Oakland > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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