Fuel pipe question

[banjomey2@aol.com]

Hi chaps, just a short question: does the fuel pipe, that runs from the front to the petrol-tank, is mounted inside or outside to the chassis-rail? Thanks for help Peter "Banjo" Meyer TC 9027, 1949 Morgan +4, 1965 TR 3A, 1959 Rilye TT Sprite Special, 1935 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Paroor]

Just one answer, Out side the rail from the bottom of the tank. Madhu -----Urspr ngliche Nachricht----- Von: banjomey2@aol.com [mailto:banjomey2@aol.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 31. M rz 2005 12:49 Hi chaps, just a short question: does the fuel pipe, that runs from the front to the petrol-tank, is mounted inside or outside to the chassis-rail? Thanks for help Peter "Banjo" Meyer

[LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com]

Dear Banjo; May I suggest you put an inline fuel filter,cleanable type, on the near side, just under the passenger side for easy access. It is amazing how much trash is in the gas being sold today. Tally Ho! Thom Collins Manasota Key, Fl [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Peter Roberts]

Thom, Too right the gas is a mess. Filled up at a country station last Fall and got about six miles. Engine quit. After many vexing moments, I opened the bonnet and noticed that my fuel filter was black. The filter is the glass tube type and should have been clear. Opened the filter and discovered it was filled with black silt. Cleaned it out and started up again. Everything seemed OK until about six miles later..... Limped back to the gas station. Tight conversation later they emptied the gas tank. Filthy with silt. Abject conversation later they poured clean gas into a container as I watched and filled me up. If I had not mounted the filter in the engine compartment, I wonder how long it would have taken me to find the problem. Lesson learned, only fill up at high volume stations. And mount your filter where you can see it. _Peter TC0604

----- Original Message ----- From: LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com> To: Banjomey2@aol.com> Cc: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Fuel pipe question > > Dear Banjo; > May I suggest you put an inline fuel > filter,cleanable type, on the near side, just under the passenger side > for easy > access. It is amazing how much trash is in the gas being sold today. > Tally Ho! > Thom Collins > Manasota Key, Fl > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[Dean Jensen]

Hi Banjo I would not put a fuel filter on the inlet of the fuel pump, unless you have a fuel pump in the rear under the gas tank. The problem with the filter before the pump, the pump is not made to suck, it is made to push. In hot weather, you made end up with the car become vapor lock, or the fuel pump running, but not pumping, been there before. Cheers Dean -----Original Message----- From: LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com [mailto:LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:16 AM To: Banjomey2@aol.com Cc: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Fuel pipe question Dear Banjo; May I suggest you put an inline fuel filter,cleanable type, on the near side, just under the passenger side for easy access. It is amazing how much trash is in the gas being sold today. Tally Ho! Thom Collins Manasota Key, Fl [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links

[Dean Jensen]

Hi Banjo I would not put a fuel filter on the inlet of the fuel pump, unless you have a fuel pump in the rear under the gas tank. The problem with the filter before the pump, the pump is not made to suck, it is made to push. In hot weather, you made end up with the car become vapor lock, or the fuel pump running, but not pumping, been there before. Cheers Dean -----Original Message----- From: LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com [mailto:LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:16 AM To: Banjomey2@aol.com Cc: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Fuel pipe question Dear Banjo; May I suggest you put an inline fuel filter,cleanable type, on the near side, just under the passenger side for easy access. It is amazing how much trash is in the gas being sold today. Tally Ho! Thom Collins Manasota Key, Fl [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links

[LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com]

Thanks Dean; Will watch out for that. So far it has been running OK, by some good grace. Today it is only 85 degress. The 90,s in June should give me an idea of where I am at. Tally Ho! Thom [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Terry Sanders]

I have a fuel filter on the TA in line with the fuel pump and have had no problem with it in years....of course I live in the highest gas price area of the U.S. and that must mean we have very clean petrol!! Terry Dean Jensen djensen@accessus.net> wrote: Hi Banjo I would not put a fuel filter on the inlet of the fuel pump, unless you have a fuel pump in the rear under the gas tank. The problem with the filter before the pump, the pump is not made to suck, it is made to push. In hot weather, you made end up with the car become vapor lock, or the fuel pump running, but not pumping, been there before. Cheers Dean -----Original Message----- From: LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com [mailto:LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:16 AM To: Banjomey2@aol.com Cc: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Fuel pipe question Dear Banjo; May I suggest you put an inline fuel filter,cleanable type, on the near side, just under the passenger side for easy access. It is amazing how much trash is in the gas being sold today. Tally Ho! Thom Collins Manasota Key, Fl [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[1939mgtb]

Dean is correct. With only about 2 psi output, the SU pump really isn't much good at sucking. If you have anything trapped in the filter, and it is located before the pump, you may have trouble. At only 2 psi, you might not have a vapor lock in the inlet side simply becuase the drop in pressure on that side won't flash vaporize the fuel. BUT you may have a lean condition at higher RPM, and that can cause expensive problems...... Best regards, Ray "There are no easy answers in this case m'lud."

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dean Jensen" djensen@accessus.net> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Fuel pipe question > > > > > Hi Banjo > I would not put a fuel filter on the inlet of the fuel pump, unless you > have a fuel pump in the rear under the gas tank. The problem with the > filter before the pump, the pump is not made to suck, it is made to > push. In hot weather, you made end up with the car become vapor lock, > or the fuel pump running, but not pumping, been there before. Cheers > Dean > > -----Original Message----- > From: LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com [mailto:LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:16 AM > To: Banjomey2@aol.com > Cc: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Fuel pipe question > > > Dear Banjo; > May I suggest you put an inline fuel > filter,cleanable type, on the near side, just under the passenger side > for easy > access. It is amazing how much trash is in the gas being sold today. > Tally Ho! > Thom Collins > Manasota Key, Fl > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >

[Peter Cole]

Guys, We seem to getting confused here. The fuel pumps fitted to the TA,B,C,D cars are very good at sucking. They suck petrol all the way from the petrol tank to the front of the car, and can do this dry, without even being primed. However they aren't very good at pushing. That's why they are mounted above the carbs. On the other hand the pump fitted to the TF, and later cars, that are mounted at the rear aren't at all good at sucking. That's why they are flooded with petrol by gravity. These pumps are good at pushing, hence can push the petrol all the way to the front of the car and then raise it to the level of the carbs. This is the reason that you can't swap pumps between earlier and later cars. Peter Cole. 1939mgtb wrote:

>Dean is correct. With only about 2 psi output, the SU pump really isn't >much good at sucking. If you have anything trapped in the filter, and it is >located before the pump, you may have trouble. >At only 2 psi, you might not have a vapor lock in the inlet side simply >becuase the drop in pressure on that side won't flash vaporize the fuel. >BUT you may have a lean condition at higher RPM, and that can cause >expensive problems...... >Best regards, >Ray >"There are no easy answers in this case m'lud." > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dean Jensen" djensen@accessus.net> >To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 2:26 PM >Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Fuel pipe question > > > > >> >> >>Hi Banjo >>I would not put a fuel filter on the inlet of the fuel pump, unless you >>have a fuel pump in the rear under the gas tank. The problem with the >>filter before the pump, the pump is not made to suck, it is made to >>push. In hot weather, you made end up with the car become vapor lock, >>or the fuel pump running, but not pumping, been there before. Cheers >>Dean >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com [mailto:LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com] >>Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:16 AM >>To: Banjomey2@aol.com >>Cc: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com >>Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Fuel pipe question >> >> >>Dear Banjo; >> May I suggest you put an inline fuel >>filter,cleanable type, on the near side, just under the passenger side >>for easy >>access. It is amazing how much trash is in the gas being sold today. >>Tally Ho! >>Thom Collins >>Manasota Key, Fl >> >> >>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >>Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > >