Re: Digest Number 888
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Re: Digest Number 888
Sorry guys the 'Limey' appellation came from the necessity for vitamin C being discovered by some very smart British sailing Ship Master.
Used to be, everyone in the crew had a medicinal ration of rum daily and someone discovered that adding Lime juice (limes being easily carried and or obtained) prevented scurvy (a very nasty ailment.)
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Re: Digest Number 888
I knew that.
Don
TC 7993
_________________________________________________________________ Join the world s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com>From: "SALLY CARROLL" jim.n.sally.carroll@worldnet.att.net> >Reply-To: "SALLY CARROLL" jim.n.sally.carroll@worldnet.att.net> >To: "The group T-ABCs" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 888 >Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2002 20:13:15 -0400 > >Sorry guys the 'Limey' appellation came from the necessity for vitamin C >being discovered by some very smart British sailing Ship Master. >Used to be, everyone in the crew had a medicinal ration of rum daily and >someone discovered that adding Lime juice (limes being easily carried and >or obtained) prevented scurvy (a very nasty ailment.) > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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Re: Digest Number 888
Hi All,
Got back from sunny climes last week and still trolling through
all the e mail when this one from Mr Brock caught my eye Looks like you've
got all the answers. Ever wondered why we Brits put two fingers up as a mark
of displeasure i,e other bad drivers? No offence meant just another olde
English custom that dates even further back.
----- Original Message ----- From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 12:17 AM Subject: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 888 From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> Subject: Yanks, Ausies, and Poms. Okay. Here's a quasi-pukka question regarding a word derivation. A subject which I find at least as interesting as tonneau cover snaps. We Americans are "Yanks" or in some areas, "Gringos". Australians are "Ausies" (A shortened form of Australian), New Zealanders are "Kiwis" ( from their National bird). Germans are "Krauts" (obviously a shortening of sauerkraut, a favorite National food). The British, (the MG connection), are "Brits", "Limeys", or "Poms". The derivation of "Brit" is obvious. I can venture a guess as to the derivation of "Limey". I believe there was a popular expression in Elizabethan England which went, "Blame me for the bloody corpse of Christ" which would have been used in a way similar to the way, today, we might say "well, f**k me" or, "I'll be damned" to express dismay or consternation. In time, this original Elizabethan expression yielded four separate expletives, "blame me" with a Cockney accent, became "blimey!" And hence, "Limey". The other three expletives which the original Elizabethan expression yielded are the ever popular "Bloody!", "Cor!" (again, corpse with a Cockney accent), and "Christ!". My question is, where does "Pom" come from? Of course "pomme" is French for apple but I can't figure a connection and everybody knows the French are "Frogs" anyway. I am genuinely curious and mean no offense to anyone. Incidentally, the previous few sentences have caused my computer's spell checker to assume the fetal position in a corner of my monitor screen with its thumb in its mouth. Postus Scriptus: It has occurred to me that another, and perhaps more likely, possible derivation for "limey" would be as a reference to the lime-rich and well known Dover white cliffs. P.S.#2: In some quarters of the globe, we Americans are also known as "the great satan" - but I don't know why..... Inquiring Badgers want to know [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: Digest Number 888
Ron,
SUPPOSEDLY, during the Norman Conquest, all Anglo-Saxon archers caught by
the Normans had their two arrow fingers amputated - without anaesthetic,
presumably - and any who escaped waved their two good fingers at the
oppressors, as we do to those who offend nowadays.
Regards, David Lodge
> Hi All, > Got back from sunny climes last week and still trolling through > all the e mail when this one from Mr Brock caught my eye Looks like you've > got all the answers. Ever wondered why we Brits put two fingers up as a mark > of displeasure i,e other bad drivers? No offence meant just another olde > English custom that dates even further back. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 12:17 AM > Subject: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 888 > > > > From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> > Subject: Yanks, Ausies, and Poms. > > Okay. > Here's a quasi-pukka question regarding a word derivation. A subject which > I find at least as interesting as tonneau cover snaps. > We Americans are "Yanks" or in some areas, "Gringos". Australians are > "Ausies" (A shortened form of Australian), New Zealanders are "Kiwis" ( > from their National bird). Germans are "Krauts" (obviously a shortening of > sauerkraut, a favorite National food). The British, (the MG connection), > are "Brits", "Limeys", or "Poms". The derivation of "Brit" is obvious. I > can venture a guess as to the derivation of "Limey". I believe there was a > popular expression in Elizabethan England which went, "Blame me for the > bloody corpse of Christ" which would have been used in a way similar to the > way, today, we might say "well, f**k me" or, "I'll be damned" to express > dismay or consternation. In time, this original Elizabethan expression > yielded four separate expletives, "blame me" with a Cockney accent, became > "blimey!" And hence, "Limey". The other three expletives which the > original Elizabethan expression yielded are the ever popular "Bloody!", > "Cor!" (again, corpse with a Cockney accent), and "Christ!". My question > is, where does "Pom" come from? Of course "pomme" is French for apple but I > can't figure a connection and everybody knows the French are "Frogs" anyway. > I am genuinely curious and mean no offense to anyone. > > Incidentally, the previous few sentences have caused my computer's spell > checker to assume the fetal position in a corner of my monitor screen with > its thumb in its mouth. > > Postus Scriptus: It has occurred to me that another, and perhaps more > likely, possible derivation for "limey" would be as a reference to the > lime-rich and well known Dover white cliffs. > P.S.#2: In some quarters of the globe, we Americans are also known as "the > great satan" - but I don't know why..... > > Inquiring Badgers want to know > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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Re: Digest Number 888
Something to do with longbows and cutting fingers off prisoners to stop them being used isn't it. Two fingers shows you still have them. I think the French figure in here somewhere - Agincourt wasn't it?
Ian T
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"Ausies" (A shortened form of Australian), New Zealanders are "Kiwis" (> Hi All, > Got back from sunny climes last week and still trolling through >all the e mail when this one from Mr Brock caught my eye Looks like you've >got all the answers. Ever wondered why we Brits put two fingers up as a mark >of displeasure i,e other bad drivers? No offence meant just another olde >English custom that dates even further back. >----- Original Message ----- >From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 12:17 AM >Subject: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 888 > > > > From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> >Subject: Yanks, Ausies, and Poms. > >Okay. >Here's a quasi-pukka question regarding a word derivation. A subject which >I find at least as interesting as tonneau cover snaps. >We Americans are "Yanks" or in some areas, "Gringos". Australians are
"blimey!" And hence, "Limey". The other three expletives which the>from their National bird). Germans are "Krauts" (obviously a shortening of >sauerkraut, a favorite National food). The British, (the MG connection), >are "Brits", "Limeys", or "Poms". The derivation of "Brit" is obvious. I >can venture a guess as to the derivation of "Limey". I believe there was a >popular expression in Elizabethan England which went, "Blame me for the >bloody corpse of Christ" which would have been used in a way similar to the >way, today, we might say "well, f**k me" or, "I'll be damned" to express >dismay or consternation. In time, this original Elizabethan expression >yielded four separate expletives, "blame me" with a Cockney accent, became
"Cor!" (again, corpse with a Cockney accent), and "Christ!". My question>original Elizabethan expression yielded are the ever popular "Bloody!",
-------------------- talk21 your FREE portable and private address on the net at http://www.talk21.com>is, where does "Pom" come from? Of course "pomme" is French for apple but I >can't figure a connection and everybody knows the French are "Frogs" anyway. >I am genuinely curious and mean no offense to anyone. > >Incidentally, the previous few sentences have caused my computer's spell >checker to assume the fetal position in a corner of my monitor screen with >its thumb in its mouth. > >Postus Scriptus: It has occurred to me that another, and perhaps more >likely, possible derivation for "limey" would be as a reference to the >lime-rich and well known Dover white cliffs. >P.S.#2: In some quarters of the globe, we Americans are also known as "the >great satan" - but I don't know why..... > >Inquiring Badgers want to know > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://talk21.btopenworld.com/redirect.html?http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/'>[url=http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>
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Re: Digest Number 888
Hi David,
That's exactly as I was led to believe as well sorry for
delay in replying others using PC and out in MG.
P.S. What's all the grief about using MG's on Independence Day anyway? We've
got pub's that go back further.
----- Original Message ----- From: "David Lodge" wargs@mac.com> To: "Benson" Carole_Ron@benson30.fsnet.co.uk>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 888 > Ron, > SUPPOSEDLY, during the Norman Conquest, all Anglo-Saxon archers caught by > the Normans had their two arrow fingers amputated - without anaesthetic, > presumably - and any who escaped waved their two good fingers at the > oppressors, as we do to those who offend nowadays. > Regards, David Lodge > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > Got back from sunny climes last week and still trolling through > > all the e mail when this one from Mr Brock caught my eye Looks like you've > > got all the answers. Ever wondered why we Brits put two fingers up as a mark > > of displeasure i,e other bad drivers? No offence meant just another olde > > English custom that dates even further back. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > > To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 12:17 AM > > Subject: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 888 > > > > > > > > From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> > > Subject: Yanks, Ausies, and Poms. > > > > Okay. > > Here's a quasi-pukka question regarding a word derivation. A subject which > > I find at least as interesting as tonneau cover snaps. > > We Americans are "Yanks" or in some areas, "Gringos". Australians are > > "Ausies" (A shortened form of Australian), New Zealanders are "Kiwis" ( > > from their National bird). Germans are "Krauts" (obviously a shortening of > > sauerkraut, a favorite National food). The British, (the MG connection), > > are "Brits", "Limeys", or "Poms". The derivation of "Brit" is obvious. I > > can venture a guess as to the derivation of "Limey". I believe there was a > > popular expression in Elizabethan England which went, "Blame me for the > > bloody corpse of Christ" which would have been used in a way similar to the > > way, today, we might say "well, f**k me" or, "I'll be damned" to express > > dismay or consternation. In time, this original Elizabethan expression > > yielded four separate expletives, "blame me" with a Cockney accent, became > > "blimey!" And hence, "Limey". The other three expletives which the > > original Elizabethan expression yielded are the ever popular "Bloody!", > > "Cor!" (again, corpse with a Cockney accent), and "Christ!". My question > > is, where does "Pom" come from? Of course "pomme" is French for apple but I > > can't figure a connection and everybody knows the French are "Frogs" anyway. > > I am genuinely curious and mean no offense to anyone. > > > > Incidentally, the previous few sentences have caused my computer's spell > > checker to assume the fetal position in a corner of my monitor screen with > > its thumb in its mouth. > > > > Postus Scriptus: It has occurred to me that another, and perhaps more > > likely, possible derivation for "limey" would be as a reference to the > > lime-rich and well known Dover white cliffs. > > P.S.#2: In some quarters of the globe, we Americans are also known as "the > > great satan" - but I don't know why..... > > > > Inquiring Badgers want to know > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > >
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Re: Digest Number 888
Hello Ron,
Well, you know what the Yanks are like.....................!
Say no more, Squire?
Regards, David Lodge
> Hi David, > That's exactly as I was led to believe as well sorry for > delay in replying others using PC and out in MG. > P.S. What's all the grief about using MG's on Independence Day anyway? We've > got pub's that go back further. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Lodge" wargs@mac.com> > To: "Benson" Carole_Ron@benson30.fsnet.co.uk>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 5:30 PM > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 888 > > >> Ron, >> SUPPOSEDLY, during the Norman Conquest, all Anglo-Saxon archers caught by >> the Normans had their two arrow fingers amputated - without anaesthetic, >> presumably - and any who escaped waved their two good fingers at the >> oppressors, as we do to those who offend nowadays. >> Regards, David Lodge >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hi All, >>> Got back from sunny climes last week and still trolling through >>> all the e mail when this one from Mr Brock caught my eye Looks like > you've >>> got all the answers. Ever wondered why we Brits put two fingers up as a > mark >>> of displeasure i,e other bad drivers? No offence meant just another olde >>> English custom that dates even further back. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >>> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 12:17 AM >>> Subject: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 888 >>> >>> >>> >>> From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> >>> Subject: Yanks, Ausies, and Poms. >>> >>> Okay. >>> Here's a quasi-pukka question regarding a word derivation. A subject > which >>> I find at least as interesting as tonneau cover snaps. >>> We Americans are "Yanks" or in some areas, "Gringos". Australians are >>> "Ausies" (A shortened form of Australian), New Zealanders are "Kiwis" ( >>> from their National bird). Germans are "Krauts" (obviously a shortening > of >>> sauerkraut, a favorite National food). The British, (the MG > connection), >>> are "Brits", "Limeys", or "Poms". The derivation of "Brit" is obvious. > I >>> can venture a guess as to the derivation of "Limey". I believe there > was a >>> popular expression in Elizabethan England which went, "Blame me for the >>> bloody corpse of Christ" which would have been used in a way similar to > the >>> way, today, we might say "well, f**k me" or, "I'll be damned" to express >>> dismay or consternation. In time, this original Elizabethan expression >>> yielded four separate expletives, "blame me" with a Cockney accent, > became >>> "blimey!" And hence, "Limey". The other three expletives which the >>> original Elizabethan expression yielded are the ever popular "Bloody!", >>> "Cor!" (again, corpse with a Cockney accent), and "Christ!". My > question >>> is, where does "Pom" come from? Of course "pomme" is French for apple > but I >>> can't figure a connection and everybody knows the French are "Frogs" > anyway. >>> I am genuinely curious and mean no offense to anyone. >>> >>> Incidentally, the previous few sentences have caused my computer's spell >>> checker to assume the fetal position in a corner of my monitor screen > with >>> its thumb in its mouth. >>> >>> Postus Scriptus: It has occurred to me that another, and perhaps more >>> likely, possible derivation for "limey" would be as a reference to the >>> lime-rich and well known Dover white cliffs. >>> P.S.#2: In some quarters of the globe, we Americans are also known as > "the >>> great satan" - but I don't know why..... >>> >>> Inquiring Badgers want to know >>> >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >>> >>> >> >> > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
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