Re: piping-front apron

[Diecuts@aol.com]

Hi Terry and list, With respect to piping location and length on the front apron for a TA, checking several reference books, TSOs , etc has been confusing. Logic says that the piping would protect all edges of the apron, in particular the right angle turns at the rear. Several pictures support this view as Terry has pointed out. There are also many that show just a straight length of piping, with the apron just overlapping the fender. My TC shows the latter but it was redone in the 60's. A second opinion would be greatly appreciated before snipping commences. Cheers, Lee Jacobsen, Dearborn, MI TA2969, TC780

[Michael DeRentz]

Lee, My TC piping also stops at the end of the apron, but I know nothing about the TA. However, turn the corner and see if you like it as long as it doesn't affect the fit of anything else. You might want to snip a "V" to make the turn easier. By the way, when I fit this piece to my TC I first sewed an extra strip of cloth to the inside edge so I could pull it tight from underneath. Also, I think the Eastwood Co. has nylon or teflon washers that go under the steel washers to protect the paint. Good Luck. Michael DeRentz ---------------------------------------------------- Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97

[Viv James TraX Interconnect (Pty.) Ltd]

Don't take it round the corner. Viv

[Diecuts@aol.com]

Viv and list, So far it is about 50/50 pro and con with respect to responses on whether the apron piping is a straight piece or makes a 90 degree turn. Somewhere there must be an original example that sets the record straight. It makes common sense to isolate the back of the apron from the fender with piping. However, the tail of the piping also can act as a gasket to separate the two panels without making the turn at the rear of the apron. 'TC's Forever' seems to skirt this detail. Can the list come to the rescue on this minor point of originality? Cheers, Lee Jacobsen, Dearborn, MI TA2969

[C Sherriff]

My Money is behind just a straight piece with no right angle. Years back I looked for evidence and found an overhead photo of a new TC (with a blank front number plate) somewhere which clearly had no turn piece, and another of the engine compartment at an odd downward angle -a photo that again showed the valance which did not have it. Dont know where I filed the photos but the evidence was clear and I think my memory is too !!! . Clive ========================================== Message text written by INTERNET:diecuts@aol.com

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So far it is about 50/50 pro and con with respect to responses on whether the apron piping is a straight piece or makes a 90 degree turn. Somewhere there must be an original example that sets the record straight. It makes common sense to isolate the back of the apron from the fender with piping. However, the tail of the piping also can act as a gasket to separate the two panels without making the turn at the rear of the apron. 'TC's Forever' seems to skirt this detail. Can the list come to the rescue on this minor point of originality? Cheers, Lee Jacobsen, Dearborn, MI TA2969

[tom metcalf]

Lee and other Pipe Smokers, I have had the opportunity to disassemble 2 very original TCs (one shires green, one emgee red) among many others not so original. I still have the original piping and these 2 TCs were simply a straight piece of piping wacked off at the end. I cannot account for all those other 9,998 TCs but I do the apron piping this way now based on the two that I DID see. tommm

----- Original Message ----- From: diecuts@aol.com> To: viv@trax.co.za> Cc: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; Diecuts@aol.com> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 11:48 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] piping-front apron > Viv and list, > > So far it is about 50/50 pro and con with respect to responses on whether the > apron piping is a straight piece or makes a 90 degree turn. Somewhere there > must be an original example that sets the record straight. It makes common > sense to isolate the back of the apron from the fender with piping. However, > the tail of the piping also can act as a gasket to separate the two panels > without making the turn at the rear of the apron. 'TC's Forever' seems to > skirt this detail. Can the list come to the rescue on this minor point of > originality? > > Cheers, Lee Jacobsen, Dearborn, MI TA2969 > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[Chip Old]

On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, tom metcalf wrote:

> I have had the opportunity to disassemble 2 very original TCs (one > shires green, one emgee red) among many others not so original. I still > have the original piping and these 2 TCs were simply a straight piece of > piping wacked off at the end. I cannot account for all those other 9,998 > TCs but I do the apron piping this way now based on the two that I DID > see. tommm

I don't know for certain which way was original, but I suspect what Tom described above is. If the piping is carried around the rear corners, it creates a pocket to trap water and dirt. That's not good. -- Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271 Cub Hill, Maryland 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E fold@bcpl.net

[Ray]

I have a photo of a TC being road tested in '46 or thereabouts that shows the piping to be straight. Best Regards, Ray "Remember- It's the collision with the planet that counts!"

----- Original Message ----- From: "C Sherriff" 100070.740@compuserve.com> To: diecuts@aol.com> Cc: viv@trax.co.za>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:09 AM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] piping-front apron > My Money is behind just a straight piece with no right angle. > > Years back I looked for evidence and found an overhead photo > of a new TC (with a blank front number plate) somewhere > which clearly had no turn piece, and another of the engine > compartment at an odd downward angle -a photo that again > showed the valance which did not have it. > > Dont know where I filed the photos but the evidence was clear > and I think my memory is too !!! . > > Clive > > ========================================== > > Message text written by INTERNET:diecuts@aol.com > > > So far it is about 50/50 pro and con with respect to responses on whether > the > apron piping is a straight piece or makes a 90 degree turn. Somewhere > there > must be an original example that sets the record straight. It makes common > > sense to isolate the back of the apron from the fender with piping. > However, > the tail of the piping also can act as a gasket to separate the two panels > without making the turn at the rear of the apron. 'TC's Forever' seems to > skirt this detail. Can the list come to the rescue on this minor point of > > originality? > > Cheers, Lee Jacobsen, Dearborn, MI TA2969 > ====================================== > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >