B C Steering & Originality

[Paul Camp]

Hi

I had my B C steering box rebuilt by Brown & Gammons 18 months ago and the TC steers fine now she also has sealed beam halogen Headlights so I can see in the dark! Shorrock supercharged, Bob Gruneaus oil filter adapter, Twin bucket seats, Hi ratio rear axle Also by B& G) and twin spares on the back and I love it!!! The car goes out every week whatever the weather. I bought it to enjoy the experience that I couldnt afford 40 years ago!

Paul

TC3348

[Paul Camp]

Addendum to my last mail. I will be at The T register rebuild at St Neots on March 10th any other listers attending? Paul TC 3348 MGB

----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] PCamp@pearsons-enfield.co.uk [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Sent:[/b] Tuesday, February 26, 2002 7:59 AM [b]Subject:[/b] [mg-tabc] B C Steering & Originality Hi I had my B C steering box rebuilt by Brown & Gammons 18 months ago and the TC steers fine now she also has sealed beam halogen Headlights so I can see in the dark! Shorrock supercharged, Bob Gruneaus oil filter adapter, Twin bucket seats, Hi ratio rear axle Also by B& G) and twin spares on the back and I love it!!! The car goes out every week whatever the weather. I bought it to enjoy the experience that I couldnt afford 40 years ago! Paul TC3348 Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

[murray arundell]

"she also has sealed beam halogen Headlights so I can see in the dark!

Help!! Where are the Originality Police when you need them?

This is my point, where exactly is the line in the sand when it comes to the battle between the "Keep it

original" brigade and the rest of us.

Personally I'd have Paul's car before an original one.........

Murray (altering in Oz)

[Ray]

Guys, I am in the process of building a "modern" TC for daily usage. So far, I have gone with a MGB engine (keeping it in the family), with a Datsun 5 speed box hooked to a narrowed Ford 8 inch rear end with the TC spring locaters welded to it. I am considering a 4 link rear suspension because of the weakness of the springs, but we will give it a try first. I found that I could use the add-on splines so as to keep the large wheels. The Ford rear end has a 4.56 ratio which may be too much for the engine. The body is made of aluminum with fiberglass fenders. It looks stock! I may go with disc brakes in the front, behind dust shields so they look like drums. As I have gone to a M/C from Wildewood, I can use a booster for better stopping. I had a heck of a time getting the brakes to work properly with the adjustable balance valve, but Ford SVO comes through again! There is a fellow in Minnesota who will redo the original instruments, putting in modern guts so that they will work with the MSD ignition box, as well as making the rest of the gauges electronic. No more darn failures. I think this car will make a great daily driver, and it looks stock being a logical extension of the TC. I plan on keeping the TB stock, but I figure that with 10000 or so TC's, I am doing this one a favor by using it on a regular basis. I agree that updating and modernizing is the way to go! Best Regards, Ray "Remember- It's the collision with the planet that counts!"

[murray arundell]

Excellent but you should have used an MGB GT-V8 motor, and why go Japanese when you could have fitted an MGB 4-speed c/w O/D on 3rd an 4th? I'm calling the O.Ps, they're on their way to your place........... Murray

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" spook01@home.com> To: PCamp@pearsons-enfield.co.uk>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; "Murray Arundell" arundell@ecn.net.au> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] B C Steering & Originality > Guys, > I am in the process of building a "modern" TC for daily usage. > So far, I have gone with a MGB engine (keeping it in the family), with a > Datsun 5 speed box hooked to a narrowed Ford 8 inch rear end with the TC > spring locaters welded to it. I am considering a 4 link rear suspension > because of the weakness of the springs, but we will give it a try first. > I found that I could use the add-on splines so as to keep the large wheels. > The Ford rear end has a 4.56 ratio which may be too much for the engine. > The body is made of aluminum with fiberglass fenders. It looks stock! > I may go with disc brakes in the front, behind dust shields so they look > like drums. As I have gone to a M/C from Wildewood, I can use a booster for > better stopping. > I had a heck of a time getting the brakes to work properly with the > adjustable balance valve, but Ford SVO comes through again! > There is a fellow in Minnesota who will redo the original instruments, > putting in modern guts so that they will work with the MSD ignition box, as > well as making the rest of the gauges electronic. No more darn failures. > I think this car will make a great daily driver, and it looks stock being a > logical extension of the TC. > I plan on keeping the TB stock, but I figure that with 10000 or so TC's, I > am doing this one a favor by using it on a regular basis. > I agree that updating and modernizing is the way to go! > Best Regards, > Ray > "Remember- It's the collision with the planet that counts!" > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[Ray]

The V8 is tougher to fit, and has virtually no support, parts wise. The OD from MGB's break, are extremely expensive, and the ratios are lousy. I used the Datsun gearbox because: I paid 125 bucks for it in good condition out of the junkyard, it has enough overdrive to suit the power of the B engine, it has a syncro system that works, the gear ratios are perfect, and it weighs no more than the B unit. A used B box with OD costs around 600 bucks, and when it breaks, you are on your own! I bought the tub from Gary Watts of Houston a few years ago. The skin is aluminum along with some of the supports, the rest being wood. It will be a neat TC when I get the kinks ironed out. Best Regards, Ray "Remember- It's the collision with the planet that counts!"

----- Original Message ----- From: "Murray Arundell" arundell@ecn.net.au> To: PCamp@pearsons-enfield.co.uk>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; "Ray" spook01@home.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] B C Steering & Originality > Excellent but you should have used an MGB GT-V8 motor, and why go Japanese > when you could have fitted an MGB 4-speed c/w O/D on 3rd an 4th? I'm > calling the O.Ps, they're on their way to your place........... > > Murray > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray" spook01@home.com> > To: PCamp@pearsons-enfield.co.uk>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; "Murray > Arundell" arundell@ecn.net.au> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 9:23 AM > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] B C Steering & Originality > > > > Guys, > > I am in the process of building a "modern" TC for daily usage. > > So far, I have gone with a MGB engine (keeping it in the family), with a > > Datsun 5 speed box hooked to a narrowed Ford 8 inch rear end with the TC > > spring locaters welded to it. I am considering a 4 link rear suspension > > because of the weakness of the springs, but we will give it a try first. > > I found that I could use the add-on splines so as to keep the large > wheels. > > The Ford rear end has a 4.56 ratio which may be too much for the engine. > > The body is made of aluminum with fiberglass fenders. It looks stock! > > I may go with disc brakes in the front, behind dust shields so they look > > like drums. As I have gone to a M/C from Wildewood, I can use a booster > for > > better stopping. > > I had a heck of a time getting the brakes to work properly with the > > adjustable balance valve, but Ford SVO comes through again! > > There is a fellow in Minnesota who will redo the original instruments, > > putting in modern guts so that they will work with the MSD ignition box, > as > > well as making the rest of the gauges electronic. No more darn failures. > > I think this car will make a great daily driver, and it looks stock being > a > > logical extension of the TC. > > I plan on keeping the TB stock, but I figure that with 10000 or so TC's, I > > am doing this one a favor by using it on a regular basis. > > I agree that updating and modernizing is the way to go! > > Best Regards, > > Ray > > "Remember- It's the collision with the planet that counts!" > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > >

[Badger]

Ray, It is rather ludicrous to refer to the contraption you are building there as a "modern TC" (now there's an oxymoron of titanic proportions). Clearly, it is a good old fashioned hot rod, plain and simple. Actually, I like a good hot rod (emphasis on "good") so long as it is creatively designed, well engineered, and artfully constructed. Judging by your description, the car you have in mind to make is neither "modern" nor, a "TC". A contemporary version of a TC would more likely be something like a Mazda Miata (MX-5) as these are cheap and cheerful little cars, very sporting in character, if not exactly "state of the art" much in the same way the TC was in its day. Better get those brakes right as the problem is not only the planet. Sometimes it's that 18 wheeler locking its brakes up in front of you on the motorway. Badger, who has also built hot rods and who feels in his heart one should either "keep it stock" - or - let one's imagination run wild and truly build something nobody in the this galaxy has ever seen before. Anything in the middle is only tepid tea.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" spook01@home.com> To: PCamp@pearsons-enfield.co.uk>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; "Murray Arundell" arundell@ecn.net.au> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] B C Steering & Originality > Guys, > I am in the process of building a "modern" TC for daily usage. > So far, I have gone with a MGB engine (keeping it in the family), with a > Datsun 5 speed box hooked to a narrowed Ford 8 inch rear end with the TC > spring locaters welded to it. I am considering a 4 link rear suspension > because of the weakness of the springs, but we will give it a try first. > I found that I could use the add-on splines so as to keep the large wheels. > The Ford rear end has a 4.56 ratio which may be too much for the engine. > The body is made of aluminum with fiberglass fenders. It looks stock! > I may go with disc brakes in the front, behind dust shields so they look > like drums. As I have gone to a M/C from Wildewood, I can use a booster for > better stopping. > I had a heck of a time getting the brakes to work properly with the > adjustable balance valve, but Ford SVO comes through again! > There is a fellow in Minnesota who will redo the original instruments, > putting in modern guts so that they will work with the MSD ignition box, as > well as making the rest of the gauges electronic. No more darn failures. > I think this car will make a great daily driver, and it looks stock being a > logical extension of the TC. > I plan on keeping the TB stock, but I figure that with 10000 or so TC's, I > am doing this one a favor by using it on a regular basis. > I agree that updating and modernizing is the way to go! > Best Regards, > Ray > "Remember- It's the collision with the planet that counts!" > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[Ray]

OWWWWWWWWW......... Best Regards, Ray "Remember- It's the collision with the planet that counts!"

----- Original Message ----- From: "BADGER" MRBADGER@COX.NET> To: "MG-TABC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; "Ray" spook01@home.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 5:57 AM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] B C Steering & Originality > Ray, > It is rather ludicrous to refer to the contraption you are building there as > a "modern TC" (now there's an oxymoron of titanic proportions). Clearly, it > is a good old fashioned hot rod, plain and simple. Actually, I like a good > hot rod (emphasis on "good") so long as it is creatively designed, well > engineered, and artfully constructed. Judging by your description, the car > you have in mind to make is neither "modern" nor, a "TC". > > A contemporary version of a TC would more likely be something like a Mazda > Miata (MX-5) as these are cheap and cheerful little cars, very sporting in > character, if not exactly "state of the art" much in the same way the TC was > in its day. > > Better get those brakes right as the problem is not only the planet. > Sometimes it's that 18 wheeler locking its brakes up in front of you on the > motorway. > > Badger, who has also built hot rods and who feels in his heart one should > either "keep it stock" - or - let one's imagination run wild and truly build > something nobody in the this galaxy has ever seen before. Anything in the > middle is only tepid tea. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray" spook01@home.com> > To: PCamp@pearsons-enfield.co.uk>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; "Murray > Arundell" arundell@ecn.net.au> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:23 PM > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] B C Steering & Originality > > > > Guys, > > I am in the process of building a "modern" TC for daily usage. > > So far, I have gone with a MGB engine (keeping it in the family), with a > > Datsun 5 speed box hooked to a narrowed Ford 8 inch rear end with the TC > > spring locaters welded to it. I am considering a 4 link rear suspension > > because of the weakness of the springs, but we will give it a try first. > > I found that I could use the add-on splines so as to keep the large > wheels. > > The Ford rear end has a 4.56 ratio which may be too much for the engine. > > The body is made of aluminum with fiberglass fenders. It looks stock! > > I may go with disc brakes in the front, behind dust shields so they look > > like drums. As I have gone to a M/C from Wildewood, I can use a booster > for > > better stopping. > > I had a heck of a time getting the brakes to work properly with the > > adjustable balance valve, but Ford SVO comes through again! > > There is a fellow in Minnesota who will redo the original instruments, > > putting in modern guts so that they will work with the MSD ignition box, > as > > well as making the rest of the gauges electronic. No more darn failures. > > I think this car will make a great daily driver, and it looks stock being > a > > logical extension of the TC. > > I plan on keeping the TB stock, but I figure that with 10000 or so TC's, I > > am doing this one a favor by using it on a regular basis. > > I agree that updating and modernizing is the way to go! > > Best Regards, > > Ray > > "Remember- It's the collision with the planet that counts!" > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > >

[Ray]

Sure it's a TC...it has a TC serial number! Best Regards, Ray "Remember- It's the collision with the planet that counts!"

----- Original Message ----- From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> To: "MG-TABC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; "Ray" spook01@home.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 5:57 AM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] B C Steering & Originality > Ray, > It is rather ludicrous to refer to the contraption you are building there as > a "modern TC" (now there's an oxymoron of titanic proportions). Clearly, it > is a good old fashioned hot rod, plain and simple. Actually, I like a good > hot rod (emphasis on "good") so long as it is creatively designed, well > engineered, and artfully constructed. Judging by your description, the car > you have in mind to make is neither "modern" nor, a "TC". > > A contemporary version of a TC would more likely be something like a Mazda > Miata (MX-5) as these are cheap and cheerful little cars, very sporting in > character, if not exactly "state of the art" much in the same way the TC was > in its day. > > Better get those brakes right as the problem is not only the planet. > Sometimes it's that 18 wheeler locking its brakes up in front of you on the > motorway. > > Badger, who has also built hot rods and who feels in his heart one should > either "keep it stock" - or - let one's imagination run wild and truly build > something nobody in the this galaxy has ever seen before. Anything in the > middle is only tepid tea. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray" spook01@home.com> > To: PCamp@pearsons-enfield.co.uk>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; "Murray > Arundell" arundell@ecn.net.au> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:23 PM > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] B C Steering & Originality > > > > Guys, > > I am in the process of building a "modern" TC for daily usage. > > So far, I have gone with a MGB engine (keeping it in the family), with a > > Datsun 5 speed box hooked to a narrowed Ford 8 inch rear end with the TC > > spring locaters welded to it. I am considering a 4 link rear suspension > > because of the weakness of the springs, but we will give it a try first. > > I found that I could use the add-on splines so as to keep the large > wheels. > > The Ford rear end has a 4.56 ratio which may be too much for the engine. > > The body is made of aluminum with fiberglass fenders. It looks stock! > > I may go with disc brakes in the front, behind dust shields so they look > > like drums. As I have gone to a M/C from Wildewood, I can use a booster > for > > better stopping. > > I had a heck of a time getting the brakes to work properly with the > > adjustable balance valve, but Ford SVO comes through again! > > There is a fellow in Minnesota who will redo the original instruments, > > putting in modern guts so that they will work with the MSD ignition box, > as > > well as making the rest of the gauges electronic. No more darn failures. > > I think this car will make a great daily driver, and it looks stock being > a > > logical extension of the TC. > > I plan on keeping the TB stock, but I figure that with 10000 or so TC's, I > > am doing this one a favor by using it on a regular basis. > > I agree that updating and modernizing is the way to go! > > Best Regards, > > Ray > > "Remember- It's the collision with the planet that counts!" > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[Badger]

So, if I take a TC chassis plate and bolt it to a Buick, I've got myself a TC?

> Sure it's a TC...it has a TC serial number! > Best Regards, > Ray > "Remember- It's the collision with the planet that counts!" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "BADGER" mrbadger@cox.net> > To: "MG-TABC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; "Ray" spook01@home.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2002 5:57 AM > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] B C Steering & Originality > > > > Ray, > > It is rather ludicrous to refer to the contraption you are building

there

> as > > a "modern TC" (now there's an oxymoron of titanic proportions).

Clearly,

> it > > is a good old fashioned hot rod, plain and simple. Actually, I like a > good > > hot rod (emphasis on "good") so long as it is creatively designed, well > > engineered, and artfully constructed. Judging by your description, the > car > > you have in mind to make is neither "modern" nor, a "TC". > > > > A contemporary version of a TC would more likely be something like a

Mazda

> > Miata (MX-5) as these are cheap and cheerful little cars, very sporting

in

> > character, if not exactly "state of the art" much in the same way the TC > was > > in its day. > > > > Better get those brakes right as the problem is not only the planet. > > Sometimes it's that 18 wheeler locking its brakes up in front of you on > the > > motorway. > > > > Badger, who has also built hot rods and who feels in his heart one > should > > either "keep it stock" - or - let one's imagination run wild and truly > build > > something nobody in the this galaxy has ever seen before. Anything in

the

> > middle is only tepid tea. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Ray" spook01@home.com> > > To: PCamp@pearsons-enfield.co.uk>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; "Murray > > Arundell" arundell@ecn.net.au> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 6:23 PM > > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] B C Steering & Originality > > > > > > > Guys, > > > I am in the process of building a "modern" TC for daily usage. > > > So far, I have gone with a MGB engine (keeping it in the family), with

a

> > > Datsun 5 speed box hooked to a narrowed Ford 8 inch rear end with the

TC

> > > spring locaters welded to it. I am considering a 4 link rear

suspension

> > > because of the weakness of the springs, but we will give it a try

first.

> > > I found that I could use the add-on splines so as to keep the large > > wheels. > > > The Ford rear end has a 4.56 ratio which may be too much for the

engine.

> > > The body is made of aluminum with fiberglass fenders. It looks stock! > > > I may go with disc brakes in the front, behind dust shields so they

look

> > > like drums. As I have gone to a M/C from Wildewood, I can use a

booster

> > for > > > better stopping. > > > I had a heck of a time getting the brakes to work properly with the > > > adjustable balance valve, but Ford SVO comes through again! > > > There is a fellow in Minnesota who will redo the original instruments, > > > putting in modern guts so that they will work with the MSD ignition

box,

> > as > > > well as making the rest of the gauges electronic. No more darn > failures. > > > I think this car will make a great daily driver, and it looks stock > being > > a > > > logical extension of the TC. > > > I plan on keeping the TB stock, but I figure that with 10000 or so

TC's,

> I > > > am doing this one a favor by using it on a regular basis. > > > I agree that updating and modernizing is the way to go! > > > Best Regards, > > > Ray > > > "Remember- It's the collision with the planet that counts!" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to

http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

> > > > >