Low luggage rack for a TC?

[Mark McCombs]

Your wife was standing behind as you wrote that, right, Ron? Mark TC8126

----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Simon" simon90248@yahoo.com> To: "David and Joyce Edgar" djedgar@pacbell.net>; "T-ABC list" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Low luggage rack for a TC? snip I don't feel that low mounted luggage is the real problem> Ron Simon > --- David and Joyce Edgar djedgar@pacbell.net> wrote: > > Gene Wescott sent me this reply and am passing it on > > as it didn't go > > to the whole group. > > David > > ------------- > > Dear Dave: > > I used my Phil Marino luggage rack on the trip to > > GoF West Napa. > > All was fine until I picked up my lady friend in > > Berkeley. She had > > a couple of large heavy bags. When we got on the > > freeway at speed > > the steering was frightning. I stopped and checked > > the front wheels > > and the steering slop--both normal. The weight on > > that low pivot point > > really lightens the front end, and the lift added by > > the wind on the front > > wings adds. I drove as slowly as possible in > > freeway traffic but it took > > all my concentration to get there. I think the > > answer is: discourage > > women from taking so much stuff. If one can do with > > side mirrors and > > not use the dash rear mirror, a high rack positioned > > over the gastank, > > or perhaps strapping stuff over the rear tonneau > > area would be better. > > Gene > > > > > >(we all know that WE only need a spare good > > shirt and two clean > > > >pairs of jocks to keep us going on even the > > longest holiday.......) > > > > > > This reminded me of a when my wife and I packed > > up for a two week > > > trip. She of course needed clothes for almost > > every occasion and > > > extra of everything. That and the tools and > > spare parts I brought > > > (we were traveling solo and not with a group) > > made quite a load on > > > the low mounted rear rack. The weight seemed to > > cause a poor F/R > > > weight ratio or maybe even lift the front end of > > the TC ever so > > > slightly and caused a terrible wandering problem. > > It was nothing > > > that could be observed visually but certainly > > could be felt in the > > > steering. Fought the steering the whole trip. > > Once the weight was > > > removed the TC behaved much, much better. > > > > > > At that time my steering was, shall we say, well > > worn in. I did do a > > > steering and front end rebuild after that. I > > don't know if tight > > > steering would have helped in that instance but > > it is always on my > > > mind to watch how much goes on the rack now. > > > > > > David Edgar, TC 5108 > > > El Cajon, California > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[paulhuck@bellsouth.net]

I have seen small trailers towed behind Harleys etc. Could a T series trailer work ? PTH

----- Original Message ----- From: David and Joyce Edgar djedgar@pacbell.net> To: T-ABC list mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Low luggage rack for a TC? > Gene Wescott sent me this reply and am passing it on as it didn't go > to the whole group. > David > ------------- > Dear Dave: > I used my Phil Marino luggage rack on the trip to GoF West Napa. > All was fine until I picked up my lady friend in Berkeley. She had > a couple of large heavy bags. When we got on the freeway at speed > the steering was frightning. I stopped and checked the front wheels > and the steering slop--both normal. The weight on that low pivot point > really lightens the front end, and the lift added by the wind on the front > wings adds. I drove as slowly as possible in freeway traffic but it took > all my concentration to get there. I think the answer is: discourage > women from taking so much stuff. If one can do with side mirrors and > not use the dash rear mirror, a high rack positioned over the gastank, > or perhaps strapping stuff over the rear tonneau area would be better. > Gene > > > >(we all know that WE only need a spare good shirt and two clean > > >pairs of jocks to keep us going on even the longest holiday.......) > > > > This reminded me of a when my wife and I packed up for a two week > > trip. She of course needed clothes for almost every occasion and > > extra of everything. That and the tools and spare parts I brought > > (we were traveling solo and not with a group) made quite a load on > > the low mounted rear rack. The weight seemed to cause a poor F/R > > weight ratio or maybe even lift the front end of the TC ever so > > slightly and caused a terrible wandering problem. It was nothing > > that could be observed visually but certainly could be felt in the > > steering. Fought the steering the whole trip. Once the weight was > > removed the TC behaved much, much better. > > > > At that time my steering was, shall we say, well worn in. I did do a > > steering and front end rebuild after that. I don't know if tight > > steering would have helped in that instance but it is always on my > > mind to watch how much goes on the rack now. > > > > David Edgar, TC 5108 > > El Cajon, California > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[joecurto@aol.com]

Not for nothing but in England you see Mini's towing small housetrailers so I guess a T series could tow, I met a fellow years ago who was using a single wheel trailer (yes they made them) and he had a blow out on it and it caused the car to flip over. But if you were towing this opens up the brake discussions again, as well as the steering can-O-worms Joe

[Jeff & Merryl Redman]

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff & Merryl Redman" redcigar@ozemail.com.au> To: "David and Joyce Edgar" djedgar@pacbell.net> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Low luggage rack for a TC? > G'day Dave and Co. > > Been following the 'luggage rack' thread with additional interest. We are > about to host Bob and Lynn Douglas - two intrepid Poms travelling around NZ, > Oz and then Africa in their TC before heading back to the Old Dart. > They're currently somewhere in Queensland 800 miles away and limping south > to us here in the Hunter. > Seems the TC is not well. Problems with the MM1000 diff and rear > suspension 'bottoming' > Obviously the old dear is well and truly loaded (Hence the interest in their > luggage rack). > Ray Tolcher (TC and TB) and I have arranged replacement rear springs with > additional leaf in each to be on hand for a mini-rebuild during their brief > stop-over. > Will report further on what should be an interesting story from Bob and > Lynn. > > Amused reading of the 'Lady with the heavy luggage'. > Reminds me of a mate and his wife who travelled round Tasmania for 3 weeks > in their T just a couple of years ago. > They were really organised - ruthless when packing, even shared a toothbrush > to save space! > Story goes procedure with jocks: > Day one - normal. > Day two - wear back to front. > Day three -wear normal-inside-out. > Day four - wear back-to-front-inside-out. > Day five - wash and place over top radiator tank to dry and then restart > cycle. > > Thank heavens most of the time the top was down! > > Regards to all from sunny Oz. > Jeff > TA2828 > TC3306 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David and Joyce Edgar" djedgar@pacbell.net> > To: "T-ABC list" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 8:28 AM > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Low luggage rack for a TC? > > > > Gene Wescott sent me this reply and am passing it on as it didn't go > > to the whole group. > > David > > ------------- > > Dear Dave: > > I used my Phil Marino luggage rack on the trip to GoF West Napa. > > All was fine until I picked up my lady friend in Berkeley. She had > > a couple of large heavy bags. When we got on the freeway at speed > > the steering was frightning. I stopped and checked the front wheels > > and the steering slop--both normal. The weight on that low pivot point > > really lightens the front end, and the lift added by the wind on the front > > wings adds. I drove as slowly as possible in freeway traffic but it took > > all my concentration to get there. I think the answer is: discourage > > women from taking so much stuff. If one can do with side mirrors and > > not use the dash rear mirror, a high rack positioned over the gastank, > > or perhaps strapping stuff over the rear tonneau area would be better. > > Gene > > > > > >(we all know that WE only need a spare good shirt and two clean > > > >pairs of jocks to keep us going on even the longest holiday.......) > > > > > > This reminded me of a when my wife and I packed up for a two week > > > trip. She of course needed clothes for almost every occasion and > > > extra of everything. That and the tools and spare parts I brought > > > (we were traveling solo and not with a group) made quite a load on > > > the low mounted rear rack. The weight seemed to cause a poor F/R > > > weight ratio or maybe even lift the front end of the TC ever so > > > slightly and caused a terrible wandering problem. It was nothing > > > that could be observed visually but certainly could be felt in the > > > steering. Fought the steering the whole trip. Once the weight was > > > removed the TC behaved much, much better. > > > > > > At that time my steering was, shall we say, well worn in. I did do a > > > steering and front end rebuild after that. I don't know if tight > > > steering would have helped in that instance but it is always on my > > > mind to watch how much goes on the rack now. > > > > > > David Edgar, TC 5108 > > > El Cajon, California > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > >

[Zissel-Kreuztal@t-online.de]

paulhuck@bellsouth.net schrieb:

> I have seen small trailers towed behind Harleys etc. Could a T series > trailer work ? > PTH

Hi Paul, hi T-Typers! Yes,it works well. We use a fold down caravan (Scholz Br derchen). Like made for the TC: Not higher as the persenning (free sight to the rear), featherlight (240kg) and enough room for the luggage. Allowed loading is 160kg. We use it at every meeting and have much fun. It s always a big show, when we arrive at the meetings! For further informations about such caravans look at www.coc-ev.de , the german caravan oldie club. btw.: Drawnings of the trailer coupling and picts of the caravan with TC are available. Give me a note, if interested.

[steve.fielder@talk21.com]

Ray the idea is this, whatever does not go in the rear goes in the passenger footwell. It`s surprising how much this little gem cuts down the amount women take with them. Steve TC4219

> I think you are fighting a loosing battle there compadre......... >Best Regards, >Ray

"Remember- It's the collision with the planet that counts!"

>----- Original Message ----- >From: "David and Joyce Edgar" djedgar@pacbell.net> >To: "T-ABC list" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 3:28 PM >Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Low luggage rack for a TC? > > > Gene Wescott sent me this reply and am passing it on as it didn't go > to the whole group. > David > ------------- > Dear Dave: > I used my Phil Marino luggage rack on the trip to GoF West Napa. > All was fine until I picked up my lady friend in Berkeley. She had > a couple of large heavy bags. When we got on the freeway at speed > the steering was frightning. I stopped and checked the front wheels > and the steering slop--both normal. The weight on that low pivot point > really lightens the front end, and the lift added by the wind on the front > wings adds. I drove as slowly as possible in freeway traffic but it took > all my concentration to get there. I think the answer is: discourage > women from taking so much stuff. If one can do with side mirrors and > not use the dash rear mirror, a high rack positioned over the gastank, > or perhaps strapping stuff over the rear tonneau area would be better. > Gene > > > >(we all know that WE only need a spare good shirt and two clean > > >pairs of jocks to keep us going on even the longest holiday.......) > > > > This reminded me of a when my wife and I packed up for a two week > > trip. She of course needed clothes for almost every occasion and > > extra of everything. That and the tools and spare parts I brought > > (we were traveling solo and not with a group) made quite a load on > > the low mounted rear rack. The weight seemed to cause a poor F/R > > weight ratio or maybe even lift the front end of the TC ever so > > slightly and caused a terrible wandering problem. It was nothing > > that could be observed visually but certainly could be felt in the > > steering. Fought the steering the whole trip. Once the weight was > > removed the TC behaved much, much better. > > > > At that time my steering was, shall we say, well worn in. I did do a > > steering and front end rebuild after that. I don't know if tight > > steering would have helped in that instance but it is always on my > > mind to watch how much goes on the rack now. > > > > David Edgar, TC 5108 > > El Cajon, California > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://www.talk21.com/redirect.html?http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/'>[url=http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> > > > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://www.talk21.com/redirect.html?http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/'>[url=http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>

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[Victoria Vernon]

Hi out there,

Following the enquiry about tools for a TC. If anyone has a full set they can confirm how heavy it is. I also took out my sidescreens to check the fixing method and they also weigh quite a bit, so my suggestion is if you are towing something leave these weighty bits behind and I'm sure this will be worth a few of the tired old horses.

Clem

[Badger]

Luggage racks are for sissys. Useful for parading around with a wicker picnic hamper strapped on for "show" but that's about it. Alvis here not MG but the concept is the same. With soft luggage and enough bungies, you can pack tent, camp cooking supplies, food, clothing and extra boots. Plus, the weight distribution on the car is much better. This is in the parking lot at LL Bean, Down East up in Maine "several" years ago. http://members.aol.com/fyle02/1luggage.jpg Badger's better ideas.

[Chip Old]

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Badger wrote:

> Alvis here not MG but the concept is the same. With soft luggage and > enough bungies, you can pack tent, camp cooking supplies, food, > clothing and extra boots. Plus, the weight distribution on the car is > much better. This is in the parking lot at LL Bean, Down East up in > Maine "several" years ago. > http://members.aol.com/fyle02/1luggage.jpg > Badger's better ideas.

Good for you, Badger! The photo reminds me of photos of my mother's family's 1925 move from Virginia Beach to San Francisco in a Model T Ford. With tents, luggage, portable kitchen, odd bits of furniture strapped on, you couldn't see much of the car. -- Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271 Cub Hill, Maryland 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E fold@bcpl.net

[Joe Gates]

A case of "swing low sweet chariot......"?

----- Original Message ----- From: "Badger" mrbadger@home.com> To: "MG-TABC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: 11 February 2002 03:10 Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Low luggage rack for a TC? > Luggage racks are for sissys. Useful for parading around with a wicker > picnic hamper strapped on for "show" but that's about it. > > Alvis here not MG but the concept is the same. With soft luggage and enough > bungies, you can pack tent, camp cooking supplies, food, clothing and extra > boots. Plus, the weight distribution on the car is much better. This is in > the parking lot at LL Bean, Down East up in Maine "several" years ago. > http://members.aol.com/fyle02/1luggage.jpg > Badger's better ideas. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >