Sidescreen trim

[Graham Knight]

Dear All, I am in the process of fitting new sidescreen covers. I have the bright metal strips from the old ones which are re-usable. However, the old strips were fitted 20 years ago by a ham-fisted oaf (self) who made a mess of the mitres. I am hoping to obtain a couple of lengths of strip so I can combine new and old into what I hope will be a beautifully mitred set. Does anyone know a source of this material in the UK? All I have found so far are complete sets for a big price. Alternatively, can anyone suggest an alternative way of fixing the covers to the frames? (I have always thought the bright metal looks pretty naff). Graham Knight TA 1660

[Frank O_ The Mountain]

In a message dated 2/4/02 16:59:53 Pacific Standard Time, G.Knight@cs.ucl.ac.uk writes: > No one I know actually puts their side screens on their T type, do they? I certainly don't......since I've owned my TA (14 years), they have never been fitted. and New years day we went on a 100 mile tour in the driving rain of No. California. I'm in the process of writing an article on the hood/tonneau cover that I designed that makes this possible........I'll ask Walter to post on the web site. I get no wetter with out them than I did in my TD 40 years ago with sidescreens........ Cheers Terry

[i.thomson@talk21.com]

Graham, I am not sure about the TA but when I restored my TC I did not like the look of the exposed nuts on the inside which most people seemed to have (and for which the specialists supplied special headed bolts to fit inside the bright strips which you refer to). AS the (presumed original) frames which I had had countersunk holes I fitted countersunk screws which picked up on (ground down to fit) bolts inside the external strips. This gives a much neater appearance inside for the very occasional time when the side screens are seen out of their box. I still have the unused special headed bolts. I have a spare set of what I believe are TA frames and I believe that they have the countersunk holes also - I will check tonight. Can anyone comment on the correctness of this fitting method? Ian.

> Dear All, > >I am in the process of fitting new sidescreen covers. I have the bright >metal strips from the old ones which are re-usable. However, the old strips >were fitted 20 years ago by a ham-fisted oaf (self) who made a mess of the >mitres. I am hoping to obtain a couple of lengths of strip so I can combine >new and old into what I hope will be a beautifully mitred set. Does anyone >know a source of this material in the UK? All I have found so far are >complete sets for a big price. > >Alternatively, can anyone suggest an alternative way of fixing the covers >to the frames? (I have always thought the bright metal looks pretty naff). > >Graham Knight >TA 1660 > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://talk21.btopenworld.com/redirect.html?http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/'>[url=http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>

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[DAI]

Graham, I may be wrong, but I believe the strips are also the same as used on some post-war Triumph car door trims. Perhaps the Triumph used club might know of a reasonable source? DAI

> > Dear All, > > > >I am in the process of fitting new sidescreen > covers. I have the bright > >metal strips from the old ones which are re-usable. > However, the old strips > >were fitted 20 years ago by a ham-fisted oaf (self) > who made a mess of the > >mitres. I am hoping to obtain a couple of lengths > of strip so I can combine > >new and old into what I hope will be a beautifully > mitred set. Does anyone > >know a source of this material in the UK? All I > have found so far are > >complete sets for a big price. > > > >Alternatively, can anyone suggest an alternative > way of fixing the covers > >to the frames? (I have always thought the bright > metal looks pretty naff). > > > >Graham Knight > >TA 1660

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[Robert Grunau]

Hi Ian, Where are you located and would the TA side screens be for sale, or better yet, trade?? Also, are the TA and TC screens the same? You are right, original TC frames had nuts on the inside and the bolt head protruded slightly past the nut. I have a never disturbed original set of TC screens and thius is how the chrome strips are attached. I remember scratching my leather coat on these exposed bolt ends and nuts getting out of the car. Not being from the left coast, we need our side curtains here as the weather gets COLD! Sorry, I don't follow how you attached the strips, screw in a screw from behind into a captive nut inside the chrome strip? Regards from Canada, Bob Grunau Graham, I am not sure about the TA but when I restored my TC I did not like the look of the exposed nuts on the inside which most people seemed to have (and for which the specialists supplied special headed bolts to fit inside the bright strips which you refer to). AS the (presumed original) frames which I had had countersunk holes I fitted countersunk screws which picked up on (ground down to fit) bolts inside the external strips. This gives a much neater appearance inside for the very occasional time when the side screens are seen out of their box. I still have the unused special headed bolts. I have a spare set of what I believe are TA frames and I believe that they have the countersunk holes also - I will check tonight. Can anyone comment on the correctness of this fitting method? Ian.

> Dear All, > >I am in the process of fitting new sidescreen covers. I have the bright >metal strips from the old ones which are re-usable. However, the old strips >were fitted 20 years ago by a ham-fisted oaf (self) who made a mess of the >mitres. I am hoping to obtain a couple of lengths of strip so I can combine >new and old into what I hope will be a beautifully mitred set. Does anyone >know a source of this material in the UK? All I have found so far are >complete sets for a big price. > >Alternatively, can anyone suggest an alternative way of fixing the covers >to the frames? (I have always thought the bright metal looks pretty naff). > >Graham Knight >TA 1660 > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to

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[Chip Old]

On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Robert Grunau wrote:

> Sorry, I don't follow how you attached the strips, screw in a screw > from behind into a captive nut inside the chrome strip?

That's how the TA/B/C sidescreen trim was originally attached. Halfround-headed counter-sunk screws through the frame, through the canvas, and into captive nuts inside the strips. The domed nuts with captive t-bolts supplied as replacements aren't correct for the TA/B/C. -- Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271 Cub Hill, Maryland 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E fold@bcpl.net

[AJChalmers@aol.com]

I used the side moldings from a MK II Jag some years ago. Perfect replacement. Now, however, those might be quite dear!

[raghunandan raghvan]

Dear All, In India, I found that the long chrome strips fitted on the sides of Triumph Herald cars are an exact match for the sidescreen trim for MG TCs. I matched a set with the only original piece I had, cut them to size, mitred them and fitted them. Got my set cheap too, for less than a Pound. regards, Raghu TC 1009 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE Valentine eCards with Yahoo! Greetings! http://greetings.yahoo.com

[tonygoodall]

Chip I've never heard of this before. None of the frames that I have ever had ( TA or TC ) have ha countersunk holes or had captive (welded ?) nuts. I had a set of screens with my TA 42 years ago which I assumed were the original ones since they were extremely tatty and they had the acorn nut system. Also, if the nut is captive, how is the chrome section held on, since it would be impossible to slide it on. I also think that sliding on is not the correct procedure since the fourth one to go on is quite a problem. The acorn headed bolt solves this and eliminates rotation, although the result is the nut on the inside of the frame (the bolt ends on those that I have had had have been pretty much flush). Were there two different methods I wonder? Tony TC9825

> From: Chip Old fold@bcpl.net> > Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 09:13:36 -0500 (EST) > To: MG-TABC mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Sidescreen trim > > > That's how the TA/B/C sidescreen trim was originally attached. > Halfround-headed counter-sunk screws through the frame, through the > canvas, and into captive nuts inside the strips. The domed nuts with > captive t-bolts supplied as replacements aren't correct for the TA/B/C. > > -- > Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271 > Cub Hill, Maryland 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E > fold@bcpl.net > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[John G. Bulcken IV]

THANK YOU Chip...so where do we get the correct screws and captive nuts and or who has some originals we can copy if necessary. Cheers, John TB#0398

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chip Old" fold@bcpl.net> To: "MG-TABC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:13 AM Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Sidescreen trim > On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Robert Grunau wrote: > > > Sorry, I don't follow how you attached the strips, screw in a screw > > from behind into a captive nut inside the chrome strip? > > That's how the TA/B/C sidescreen trim was originally attached. > Halfround-headed counter-sunk screws through the frame, through the > canvas, and into captive nuts inside the strips. The domed nuts with > captive t-bolts supplied as replacements aren't correct for the TA/B/C. > > -- > Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271 > Cub Hill, Maryland 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E > fold@bcpl.net > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >