Re: Digest Number 715

[Benson]

Hi All, Still wet and windy in North Yorkshire! if anyones interested, must say I,ve got to agree with Chip regarding when is a T-Type not a T-Type. In all fairness though I think you have to include racers as they all started out as T-Types and Specials as they use a lot of T-Type compononts. As for the rest of us using road going T-Types those mods. we use are mostly reversable i.e.can be changed back to original. Purists might like to look away now, There is now a conversion available to fit a 5 speed gearbox into the TB/C as there was for the MGA/TD/TF anybody going to own up! sounds like a good idea to me, be able to get down the "Great North Road" a bit more often. Regards, Ron BensonTB Subject: Re: DEFINITION - T-TYPES Oh boy, I see another "when does a T-Type stop being a T-Type" thread about to start. You'll never get any two owners to agree on what amount of deviation from factory originality is acceptable. Never! If I were you I'd think very carefully about what the purpose of your register is to be. If it were up to me I'd make it as inclusive as possible. Take a relaxed approach, enjoy the cars. Record modifications in your Register if you want to, but don't exclude a car because it has been modified. And don't exclude specials based on T-Type componants. They are an important part of T-Type history. Others here will tell you to be fairly exclusive (to exclude TCs with Datsun steering boxes and the like). The big problem with that approach is that someone has to decide what modifications are allowed and what modifications are not. Experience right here in the MG-TABC mailing list shows that it's impossible to reach concensus on that subject. Some will even tell you to allow only absolutely original cars, but that policy will exclude virtually every T-Type still in existance. A register with a membership of zero isn't much use to anyone. Good luck, Joe. You'll need it!

[paulhuck@bellsouth.net]

On originality: We had this problem when I was president of Dixie Region of AACA (Antique Car Club of America). We had purists, who wanted perfectly original cars, as they left the factory. Big points off for non original modifications at a meet. In many cases there is argument about how they left the factory. During production runs old stock was found in the warehouse and used up, then a return to a later replacement part caused interruptions in the stream of parts such that aberrations did occur. Then, we had the out and out hot rodders, with a 32 Ford frame, channeled and chopped, with a blown Chevy engine, LaSalle transmission, Jaguar rear end, fiberglass body, flame paint, chrome suspension etc. These two extremes are obvious. Somewhere in between the car is no longer 'original. I have several minor modifications to mine too. I just enjoy driving it.

----- Original Message ----- From: Benson Carole_Ron@benson30.fsnet.co.uk> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 715 > Hi All, > Still wet and windy in North Yorkshire! if anyones interested, > must say I,ve got to agree with Chip regarding when is a T-Type not a > T-Type. In all fairness though I think you have to include racers as they > all started out as T-Types and Specials as they use a lot of T-Type > compononts. As for the rest of us using road going T-Types those mods. we > use are mostly reversable i.e.can be changed back to original. Purists might > like to look away now, There is now a conversion available to fit a 5 speed > gearbox into the TB/C as there was for the MGA/TD/TF anybody going to own > up! sounds like a good idea to me, be able to get down the "Great North > Road" a bit more often. > > > Regards, > Ron BensonTB > > > Subject: Re: DEFINITION - T-TYPES > > Oh boy, I see another "when does a T-Type stop being a T-Type" thread > about to start. You'll never get any two owners to agree on what amount > of deviation from factory originality is acceptable. Never! > > If I were you I'd think very carefully about what the purpose of your > register is to be. If it were up to me I'd make it as inclusive as > possible. Take a relaxed approach, enjoy the cars. Record modifications > in your Register if you want to, but don't exclude a car because it > has been modified. And don't exclude specials based on T-Type componants. > They are an important part of T-Type history. > > Others here will tell you to be fairly exclusive (to exclude TCs with > Datsun steering boxes and the like). The big problem with that approach > is that someone has to decide what modifications are allowed and what > modifications are not. Experience right here in the MG-TABC mailing list > shows that it's impossible to reach concensus on that subject. > > Some will even tell you to allow only absolutely original cars, but that > policy will exclude virtually every T-Type still in existance. A register > with a membership of zero isn't much use to anyone. > > Good luck, Joe. You'll need it! > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >