Decarbonizing Combustion Chambers

[Chip Old]

On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 AJChalmers@aol.com wrote:

> With unleaded it's a non-issue.

Not really. Take the head off an engine that has always run on unleaded and you'll still find combustion deposits. -- Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271 Cub Hill, Maryland 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E fold@bcpl.net

[Mark McCombs]

You just need an old shilling. Mark TC8126

----- Original Message ----- From: "Chip Old" fold@bcpl.net> To: "MG-TABC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Decarbonizing Combustion Chambers > On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 AJChalmers@aol.com wrote: > > > With unleaded it's a non-issue. > > Not really. Take the head off an engine that has always run on unleaded > and you'll still find combustion deposits. > > -- > Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271 > Cub Hill, Maryland 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E > fold@bcpl.net > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[Tombutlercpa@cs.com]

I have heard of and used this method. I have not found it to ever make much difference. The main think that you have to watch out for is adding the water too fast. If too much gets into a cylinder you can bend a connecting rod or much worse. Check your spark plugs and use a gas additive or a couple of tanks of premium fuel is my suggestion.

[rkegg@juno.com]

To all: Actually, there is a way to decarbonize the engine without removing the head. At any GM dealer, pick up a can of Top Engine Cleaner. It actually has a GM part number. It comes in a regular pour can, and as an aerosol for side draft carbs. Follow the directions and the carbon is gone. It is a solvent that you dribble or spray into the carbs with the motor running. Huge clouds of grey smoke come out of the tailpipe. Toward the end of the process, you drown the engine with it, let it sit for a few minutes, and then start it up. More clouds of smoke and the job is done. This stuff really works. I have used it for many years. The can size is designed for V-8's, so you won't need it all to do a 4 cylinder engine. Randy Kegg TC9690 On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 20:56:40 -0500 "Badger" mrbadger@home.com> writes:

> What we have here is an example of the dopeler effect: > > The tendency of stupid ideas to seem smarter > when they come at you rapidly. > > As un-fun as it may sound, to decarbonize one's combustion chambers > properly > involves removing the head and cleaning out the carbon manually with > a > rotary wire brush chucked up in one's Black and Decker. > A been there, done that Badger > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

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[rameismer@aol.com]

Note : when I decarbonize an engine I find that I get in a lot less trouble if I do it on a dark night. less visits from the fire dept. Rolland Meismer T.C. #3409--T.D. #5522 Burlington, Iowa

[Ray]

Mine are all used up scraping old Merlins.....

----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark McCombs" loadcel4@infinet.com> To: "MG-TABC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Decarbonizing Combustion Chambers > You just need an old shilling. > > Mark TC8126 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chip Old" fold@bcpl.net> > To: "MG-TABC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 12:44 PM > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Decarbonizing Combustion Chambers > > > > On Wed, 14 Nov 2001 AJChalmers@aol.com wrote: > > > > > With unleaded it's a non-issue. > > > > Not really. Take the head off an engine that has always run on unleaded > > and you'll still find combustion deposits. > > > > -- > > Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC TC6710 XPAG7430 NEMGTR #2271 > > Cub Hill, Maryland 1962 Triumph TR4 CT3154LO CT3479E > > fold@bcpl.net > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[AJChalmers@aol.com]

In a message dated 11/15/01 9:46:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, fold@bcpl.net writes:

Not really. Take the head off an engine that has always run on unleaded and you'll still find combustion deposits.

Nothing like the old days tho. Look at plug life f'instance.

[joecurto@aol.com]

I have fitted a simple water injector to my TD to go along with the Supercharger and when I had the head off to change the gasket, the combustion chamber had virtually no carbon deposits in them, so this old fashioned accessory still works. For my 2 cents worth on unusual consumption of aero engines, one of the old timers here in town told me of how he fitted an Allision V12 to a speed boat, not so unusual a swap but the fellow who had him do it bought a P38 surplus out of Arizona, never saw the aircraft, shipped both engines to New York, scrapped the counter rotating one and left the A/C to scrap, he later fitted a Merlin to the boat and he said the windows would rattle when he cracked the throttle. Joe

[Skip Kelsey]

Joe: The thought of "scraping" a P-38 brings tears to my eyes. Skip............................................ At 05:37 PM 11/16/01 -0500, joecurto@aol.com wrote:

I have fitted a simple water injector to my TD to go along with the Supercharger and when I had the head off to change the gasket, the combustion chamber had virtually no carbon deposits in them, so this old fashioned accessory still works. For my 2 cents worth on unusual consumption of aero engines, one of the old timers here in town told me of how he fitted an Allision V12 to a speed boat, not so unusual a swap but the fellow who had him do it bought a P38 surplus out of Arizona, never saw the aircraft, shipped both engines to New York, scrapped the counter rotating one and left the A/C to scrap, he later fitted a Merlin to the boat and he said the windows would rattle when he cracked the throttle. Joe Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

[LuckyFloridaLin@aol.com]

Dear Skip; Had the distinct pleasure and honor of being brought to small locked hanger at McGuire AFB ,handed a box lunch as they opened the door for me,put on the lights and there was a fully restored P-38 Lightning. For one incredible half hour I lived one of my dreams all by myself. A month later the P-38 was placed on a Pylon in the center of McGuire AFB. Still have some of the memoribilia of the dedication. Tally Ho! Thom Collins