Two TC Questions

[Peter Debruyn]

Hi T-Typers - Two queries to rattle your brain today: 1.) An XPAG was rebuilt (rebore, new pistons, rings, bearings, etc.) and reassembled properly with assembly lube - and then sat for twenty years and was never run. It has now been disassembled for inspection and cleaning and is ready for reassembly - it is suggested the rings be replaced after sitting compressed in the bores for twenty years - what is the concensus? 2.) Does anyone know difinitively (if thats possible) what is the original form of the bushing between the rear fender/gas tank end panel? TC 3990 has a bushing made of two thick rubber washers - one with an i.d. fitting the shoulder of the bolt, the other with an i.d. fitting the smaller thread dimension - these are sandwiched together (same o.d.) with corresponding steel washers on either exposed end - the right stuff or creative ownership? (Seems too engineered to be a home job, but you never know!) THANKS, Pete

[Skip Kelsey]

Pete: It is my opinion that if the engine was not run, and you opened it up. YOu should not have to replace the rings. The cyl walls should be lubed only with motor oil, and use the usual run in procedures. The fact that is has been sitting is not a problem. There is no acid build up. Skip Kelsey,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, At 10:03 AM 11/7/01 -0800, Peter Debruyn wrote:

>Hi T-Typers - > >Two queries to rattle your brain today: > >1.) An XPAG was rebuilt (rebore, new pistons, rings, bearings, etc.) and >reassembled properly with assembly lube - and then sat for twenty years and >was never run. It has now been disassembled for inspection and cleaning and >is ready for reassembly - it is suggested the rings be replaced after >sitting compressed in the bores for twenty years - what is the concensus? > >2.) Does anyone know difinitively (if thats possible) what is the original >form of the bushing between the rear fender/gas tank end panel? TC 3990 has >a bushing made of two thick rubber washers - one with an i.d. fitting the >shoulder of the bolt, the other with an i.d. fitting the smaller thread >dimension - these are sandwiched together (same o.d.) with corresponding >steel washers on either exposed end - the right stuff or creative ownership? >(Seems too engineered to be a home job, but you never know!) > >THANKS, >Pete > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Ray]

> Pete: > > It is my opinion that if the engine was not run, and you opened it up. YOu > should not have to replace the rings. The cyl walls should be lubed only > with motor oil, and use the usual run in procedures. The fact that is has > been sitting is not a problem. There is no acid build up. > > Skip Kelsey,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, >

Unless, of course, you have used Tabasco to clean the parts!! Ummmmmm good, that stuff...! Best, Ray

[Carlyle Merritt]

I rebuilt 3 XPAG engines in the early eighties and did not use them until '97 and had no problem with them. Carlyle Merritt

----- Original Message ----- From: Ray spook01@home.com> To: Peter Debruyn peterprod@earthlink.net>; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; Skip Kelsey kelsey@shadetreemotors.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 8:21 PM Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Two TC Questions > > > > Pete: > > > > It is my opinion that if the engine was not run, and you opened it up. YOu > > should not have to replace the rings. The cyl walls should be lubed only > > with motor oil, and use the usual run in procedures. The fact that is has > > been sitting is not a problem. There is no acid build up. > > > > Skip Kelsey,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, > > > Unless, of course, you have used Tabasco to clean the parts!! Ummmmmm > good, that stuff...! > Best, > Ray > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >

[Dean Jensen]

-----Original Message----- From: Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 8:33 AM To: 'TABC-FOREVER' Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Two TC Questions Pete In answer to the second part of your question, what I found on My TC, and I have no firm knowledge that it is correct, was, Two rather large, rubber washers, on either side, with the Correct size hole in the center for the shoulder bolt, the Washers were in good condition, rather soft material, and of The four total, no two were the same thickness. It appeared That they had a supply of different thickness, but all the same ID and OD, and they selected washer for the correct fit. I Thought that it must have come from the factory that way as The washers looked correct, and the chances of someone have a Supply of different thickness, was not likely. Take it for what it is worth. Cheers Dean Illinois -----Original Message----- From: Peter Debruyn [mailto:peterprod@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2001 12:04 PM To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: [mg-tabc] Two TC Questions Hi T-Typers - Two queries to rattle your brain today: 1.) An XPAG was rebuilt (rebore, new pistons, rings, bearings, etc.) and reassembled properly with assembly lube - and then sat for twenty years and was never run. It has now been disassembled for inspection and cleaning and is ready for reassembly - it is suggested the rings be replaced after sitting compressed in the bores for twenty years - what is the concensus? 2.) Does anyone know difinitively (if thats possible) what is the original form of the bushing between the rear fender/gas tank end panel? TC 3990 has a bushing made of two thick rubber washers - one with an i.d. fitting the shoulder of the bolt, the other with an i.d. fitting the smaller thread dimension - these are sandwiched together (same o.d.) with corresponding steel washers on either exposed end - the right stuff or creative ownership? (Seems too engineered to be a home job, but you never know!) THANKS, Pete Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Skip Kelsey]

Ray: If its a "hot" motor already, you dont need tobasco!!!!!!! Skip.................................................... At 08:21 PM 11/7/01 -0600, Ray wrote:

> > Pete: > > > > It is my opinion that if the engine was not run, and you opened it up. YOu > > should not have to replace the rings. The cyl walls should be lubed only > > with motor oil, and use the usual run in procedures. The fact that is has > > been sitting is not a problem. There is no acid build up. > > > > Skip Kelsey,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, > > >Unless, of course, you have used Tabasco to clean the parts!! Ummmmmm >good, that stuff...! >Best, >Ray > > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/