Starter

[wwcordin]

HELP!

I just went out to take the TC for a drive. As I attempted to start it up, a strange noise came from the starter motor. I immediately shut it down, and tried several more times with the same result. It appears as if the gear drive in the rear of the starter that turns the fly wheel has extended itself and will not return back.

Has anyone had a similar experience and what is the fix?

Would greatly appreciate any advice, guidance and direction.

WW Cordin, TC 6749

[AJChalmers@aol.com]

In a message dated 10/21/01 1:19:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, wwcordin@msn.com writes:

I just went out to take the TC for a drive. As I attempted to start it up, a strange noise came from the starter motor. I immediately shut it down, and tried several more times with the same result. It appears as if the gear drive in the rear of the starter that turns the fly wheel has extended itself and will not return back.

It's not uncommon. If the starter is misaligned, as mine was, the gear will jam in the flywheel and can be freed by putting a wrench on the bendix end of the shaft and working it back and forth. Pain in the neck. It also seems to happen sometimes when the starter pull is released prematurely then pulled again so that the gear doesn't get all the way out of the ring gear before it attempts re-engagement. At least on mine.

[joecurto@aol.com]

Before you remove the starter motor why don't you try cleaning the drive? joe curto

[MGTC1946@aol.com]

i have a lucas starter m418a a84 , 255309.the starter switch locates on the top of the starter rather than on the end like my tc starter. can anyone tell me which mg this unit will work on? thanks , charlie [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Clive Sherriff]

This is the TA Starter - of which incidently I have a need !!!! Clive ====================================

----- Original Message ----- From: MGTC1946@aol.com> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 3:03 PM Subject: [mg-tabc] starter > i have a lucas starter m418a a84 , 255309.the starter switch locates on the > top of the starter rather than on the end like my tc starter. can anyone tell > me which mg this unit will work on? thanks , charlie > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[mink]

Has anyone ever replaced the wire on the starter pull? Mine was acting up and finally gave up the ghost. Moss seems to think that theirs are pure gold!!!!!! Second question; I noticed that the circular housing on the end of my starter, the one with the arm, rotates and the arm frequently ends up against the exhaust. Should it do this? Can it be corrected? Thanks, Jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Peter Roberts]

Can't help you with replacing the wire. I believe the arm on the starter pull is supposed to rotate. The contacts in the switch tend to fuse and burn producing a small area of poor contact. A slight shift of the arm brings a new area into play. Note that there are detents for the housing that probably were intended to allow a manual adjustment. With time these detents wear and allow a freer rotation. Before I replaced the contacts the last time, I got erratic behavior from the switch (due to fusing and corroding) and could still get the switch to operate by simply rotating the arm a bit. _Peter in CT TC0604 about to be painted and put back on the road!

----- Original Message ----- From: mink To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 12:45 PM Subject: [mg-tabc] starter Has anyone ever replaced the wire on the starter pull? Mine was acting up and finally gave up the ghost. Moss seems to think that theirs are pure gold!!!!!! Second question; I noticed that the circular housing on the end of my starter, the one with the arm, rotates and the arm frequently ends up against the exhaust. Should it do this? Can it be corrected? Thanks, Jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[mink]

Thanks for all your answers. On closer examination I found that some previous owner had substituted a choke pull for the starter. Did a neat job of filling the marking and repainting to knob. Anyway, it looks like the cable has been attached by crimping. Jim [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[dnv230]

Hallo Jim TC2626 has MGA knobs. I replaed the inner and outer cables on the start switch, the inner is soldered and the outer is crimped in the knob holder. Probably the real TC part is the sam - over the years, Abingdon didn't change things that worked. The starter cswitch on the starter motor can rotate but is held by a spring holding the two parts together in notches. If it rotates then ou have maybe not got the outer cable clamp right... as long as the cable outer is the old type ie metal then it doesn't seem to do any harm if it rubs on the exhaust, although if you drive hard then something may one day melt or sieze. TC2626 is driven hard and has had no problem since 1989. Maybe also the OP have a view? whih may or may not interest you. Richard in middle Germany/TC2626

--- In mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com, "mink" wrote: > > Has anyone ever replaced the wire on the starter pull? Mine was acting up and finally gave up the ghost. Moss seems to think that theirs are pure gold!!!!!! Second question; I noticed that the circular housing on the end of my starter, the one with the arm, rotates and the arm frequently ends up against the exhaust. Should it do this? Can it be corrected? > > Thanks, Jim > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >

[WDHarmer@aol.com]

Richard & other T typers, True that Abingdon didn't change things that worked. Sometimes they didn't change things that didn't work either, for instance the MGB choke knob that broke on cold (?) San Diego mornings leaving the driver to bandage his fingers & search for a pair or pliers to pull the choke before he could start the car. Abingdon kept that knob for years. When I worked for an MG dealer, we learned to change to a cheap chrome (Pep Boys) knob with a setscrew install on all our new cars to avoid angry customers and/or lawsuits. Then there was the MGB inside door handles that broke after a few months, and the fatigue crack in the doors just at the back of the stationary glass frame. This was in the late 60s. Sales were brisk, & as long as people would buy, Abingdon seemed to think that was good enough. About 52 years ago, I replaced my starter pull with a push button from a MK-VII Jaguar. It has been so long that I don't remember what the change entailed, but I can tell you it has never failed (almost wish I hadn't said that) and it looks so much at home, that no one has ever mentioned my non-original part. It did require a little re-learning & coordination as one must shift from the classic pull/pull action of a stock TC to the non-intuitive choke-pull/starter-push action. MGs are like children & dogs, they aren't perfect, but we love 'em, Dan Harmer San Diego '48 TC-5122 =0 A -----Original Message----- From: dnv230 richard.salter@t-online.de> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 1:05 pm Subject: [mg-tabc] Re: starter Hallo Jim TC2626 has MGA knobs. I replaed the inner and outer cables on the start switch, the inner is soldered and the outer is crimped in the knob holder. Probably the real TC part is the sam - over the years, Abingdon didn't change things that worked. The starter cswitch on the starter motor can rotate but is held by a spring holding the two parts together in notches. If it rotates then ou have maybe not got the outer cable clamp right... as long as the cable outer is the old type ie metal then it doesn't seem to do any harm if it rubs on the exhaust, although if you drive hard then something may one day melt or sieze. TC2626 is driven hard and has had no problem since 1989. Maybe also the OP have a view? whih may or may not interest you. Richard in middle Germany/TC2626

--- In mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com, "mink" wrote: > > Has anyone ever replaced the wire on the starter pull? Mine was acting up and finally gave up the ghost. Moss seems to think that theirs are pure gold!!!!!! Second question; I noticed that the circular housing on the end of my starter, the one with the arm, rotates and the arm frequently ends up against the exhaust. Should it do this? Can it be corrected? > > Thanks, Jim > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com