article on coil springs

[Walter Prechsl privat]

dear friends, i tried to get the permission from r. knudson to publish the article "coil return springs" by bob watts from TSO 2/97, but unfortunately he refused my request. today i got the answer. so anybody who like to get that knowledge has to look for a copy of TSO or become a member of the north american MG club. best regards walter

[Gates Family]

Which is it - hiding someone else's light under a bushel or acting like a dog in the manger? I think copyright prescribes after some 50 years so I suggest we just hang in here, waiting with baited breath in the hope that our grandchildren derive some benefit from the knowledge contained in the article. And what the hell, my TC 8675 waited some 51 years before getting into my hands so perhaps the article can be its early centenary birthday present in 2047! Joe Gates TC*^&% (oops - 8675)

----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter Prechsl privat" walter@publi-consult.com> To: "tabc-list" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Sent: 02 October 2001 08:57 Subject: [mg-tabc] article on coil springs > dear friends, > > i tried to get the permission from r. knudson to publish the article "coil > return springs" by bob watts > from TSO 2/97, but unfortunately he refused my request. today i got the > answer. > > so anybody who like to get that knowledge has to look for a copy of TSO or > become a member of > the north american MG club. > > best regards > walter > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >

[C Sherriff]

I've heard before that Knudson always refuses permission to reprint no matter how trivial the work. Perhaps not a REAL MG man who'd stop beside the road and lend a hand ! Clive ============================================

>> dear friends, > > i tried to get the permission from r. knudson to publish the article

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> return springs" by bob watts > from TSO 2/97, but unfortunately he refused my request. today i got the > answer. > > so anybody who like to get that knowledge has to look for a copy of TSO

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> become a member of > the north american MG club. > > best regards > walter<

[Want1937hd@aol.com]

Dick Knudson has done more for MG's and the people that own them than anyone in the USA! He must have a reason for abiding to copyright laws. I'd ask him before making that statement. Bob TC4956 >>

[joecurto@aol.com]

Clive you are treading on thin ice what ever his reasons Knudson is MG personified. Joe Curto

[murray arundell]

Im glad this thread came up as I was thinking of subscribing / joining the NE T Regster. If this is the attitude that prevails then count me out. Come to think of it a few things come back to me now that were told to me by the late Phil Richer in the UK....... Lets just say Dick has some strange ideas on how the MG world works, a very commercial view shall we say....... Murray Arundell

----- Original Message ----- From: C Sherriff 100070.740@compuserve.com> To: Gates Family janus@iafrica.com> Cc: tabc-list mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; Walter Prechsl privat walter@publi-consult.com> Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2001 7:07 pm Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] article on coil springs > I've heard before that Knudson always refuses permission to reprint > no matter how trivial the work. > > Perhaps not a REAL MG man who'd stop beside the road and lend a > hand ! > > Clive > > ============================================ > > >> dear friends, > > > > i tried to get the permission from r. knudson to publish the article > "coil > > return springs" by bob watts > > from TSO 2/97, but unfortunately he refused my request. today i got the > > answer. > > > > so anybody who like to get that knowledge has to look for a copy of TSO > or > > become a member of > > the north american MG club. > > > > best regards > > walter > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >

[KEN PORTER]

Murray: It is not a strange idea or poor attitude. The material is copywrited. If you want the magazine with the info in it you pay the dues and become a member of the NEMGT Register. The dues paying members support the organization and pay for the publication of the magazine. If the information is not free to the members why should it be free to non members. Back issues are available for a small fee. Ken TC 4147 Murray Arundell wrote:

> Im glad this thread came up as I was thinking of subscribing / joining the > NE T Regster. If this is the attitude that prevails then count me out. > Come to think of it a few things come back to me now that were told to me by > the late Phil Richer in the UK....... Lets just say Dick has some strange > ideas on how the MG world works, a very commercial view shall we say....... > > Murray Arundell > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: C Sherriff 100070.740@compuserve.com> > To: Gates Family janus@iafrica.com> > Cc: tabc-list mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; Walter Prechsl privat > walter@publi-consult.com> > Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2001 7:07 pm > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] article on coil springs > > > I've heard before that Knudson always refuses permission to reprint > > no matter how trivial the work. > > > > Perhaps not a REAL MG man who'd stop beside the road and lend a > > hand ! > > > > Clive > > > > ============================================ > > > > >> dear friends, > > > > > > i tried to get the permission from r. knudson to publish the article > > "coil > > > return springs" by bob watts > > > from TSO 2/97, but unfortunately he refused my request. today i got the > > > answer. > > > > > > so anybody who like to get that knowledge has to look for a copy of TSO > > or > > > become a member of > > > the north american MG club. > > > > > > best regards > > > walter > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Jeff & Merryl Redman]

G'day Joe! One thing in favour of treading on thin ice... You rarely get into hot water. Jeff

----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] joecurto@aol.com [b]To:[/b] 100070.740@compuserve.com ; janus@iafrica.com [b]Cc:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com ; walter@publi-consult.com [b]Sent:[/b] Wednesday, October 03, 2001 11:18 PM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] article on coil springs Clive you are treading on thin ice what ever his reasons Knudson is MG personified. Joe Curto Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

[KEN PORTER]

Murray: The club is about sharing. You just have to be a member to reap the benefits and share. I belong to the Octagon Car club and the NEMGTR so that I can obtain the priceless information in the publications. The dues for each club are about $40 per year. A minute amount when compared to what we spend to keep these wonderful old car running. Ken TC 4147 Murray Arundell wrote:

> Ken, > > It seems to me that NEMGT is a business, owned by Knudson. (Ive been told > this but have no direct proof, perhaps you can tell me what the true case > is). In any event it certainly seems to me to be a mercinary way of running > a "club". > > We may have to agree to disagree, as I have always felt that a "club" is > about sharing information freely. Mr Kudson's policy of never allowing > articles to be printed (if this is in fact what he does) elsewhere is an > extremely unhelpful attitude not in keeping with the MG marque. > > As I said in my earlier post Ken, I've heard a few stories from people who > should know and while this should never be an excuse to to condem anyone > outright, from my point of view the evidence is not good. Having said that > let me say that my mind is not closed on the matter, far from it........ > > Octagonally yours - Murray > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: KEN PORTER kporter@unix.asb.com> > To: Murray Arundell arundell@ecn.net.au> > Cc: Gates Family janus@iafrica.com>; C Sherriff > 100070.740@compuserve.com>; tabc-list mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; Walter > Prechsl privat walter@publi-consult.com> > Sent: Thursday, 4 October 2001 8:52 am > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] article on coil springs > > > Murray: > > It is not a strange idea or poor attitude. The material is copywrited. If > you > > want the magazine with the info in it you pay the dues and become a member > of > > the NEMGT Register. The dues paying members support the organization and > pay for > > the publication of the magazine. If the information is not free to the > members > > why should it be free to non members. Back issues are available for a > small fee. > > > > Ken TC 4147 > > > > Murray Arundell wrote: > > > > > Im glad this thread came up as I was thinking of subscribing / joining > the > > > NE T Regster. If this is the attitude that prevails then count me out. > > > Come to think of it a few things come back to me now that were told to > me by > > > the late Phil Richer in the UK....... Lets just say Dick has some > strange > > > ideas on how the MG world works, a very commercial view shall we > say....... > > > > > > Murray Arundell > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: C Sherriff 100070.740@compuserve.com> > > > To: Gates Family janus@iafrica.com> > > > Cc: tabc-list mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com>; Walter Prechsl privat > > > walter@publi-consult.com> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2001 7:07 pm > > > Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] article on coil springs > > > > > > > I've heard before that Knudson always refuses permission to reprint > > > > no matter how trivial the work. > > > > > > > > Perhaps not a REAL MG man who'd stop beside the road and lend a > > > > hand ! > > > > > > > > Clive > > > > > > > > ============================================ > > > > > > > > >> dear friends, > > > > > > > > > > i tried to get the permission from r. knudson to publish the article > > > > "coil > > > > > return springs" by bob watts > > > > > from TSO 2/97, but unfortunately he refused my request. today i got > the > > > > > answer. > > > > > > > > > > so anybody who like to get that knowledge has to look for a copy of > TSO > > > > or > > > > > become a member of > > > > > the north american MG club. > > > > > > > > > > best regards > > > > > walter > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > >

[mrbadger]

"G'day Joe! One thing in favour of treading on thin ice... You rarely get into hot water. Jeff" But you can sure freeze yer ball bearings off. Badger