Oil

[John Patterson]

I have used Castrol oils for as long as I have had the TC ( 1956 ) and all is fine. I also use Sears Die Hard batteries always. They last for years with my low mileage running. John P in thawing Michigan -----Original Message----- From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Robert Brennan Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 5:10 PM To: ken porter Cc: acmehumor; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] OIL Is Castrol 20W50 now considered a zinc deficient has been? Bob Brennan S. Freeport, ME

On 3/8/07, ken porter kwcp@comcast.net> wrote: > > All: > I just bought a case of Red Line 20/50. > Ken Porter Manchester NH TC4147 MGA > > acmehumor wrote: > > > > > > After the recent information presented about oils, how many of you > > have or are planning to switch to diesel oil? I think I will. > > Bill Williams > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Malcolm Castle]

Hello gang; I have been using Castrol 10-40 and 20-50 sinse the 50 s and i dont se the reason for change and ditto sears batterys Malcolm Castle.

>From: "john patterson" jwp_mgtc@chartermi.net> >To: "Robert Brennan" mgtc7794@gmail.com>,"ken porter" kwcp@comcast.net> >CC: "acmehumor" acmehumor@yahoo.com>,mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] OIL >Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:15:28 -0500 > >I have used Castrol oils for as long as I have had the TC ( 1956 ) and all >is fine. I also use Sears Die Hard batteries always. They >last for years with my low mileage running. > John P in thawing Michigan > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of >Robert Brennan >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 5:10 PM >To: ken porter >Cc: acmehumor; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] OIL > > >Is Castrol 20W50 now considered a zinc deficient has been? >Bob Brennan >S. Freeport, ME > >On 3/8/07, ken porter kwcp@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > All: > > I just bought a case of Red Line 20/50. > > Ken Porter Manchester NH TC4147 MGA > > > > acmehumor wrote: > > > > > > > > > After the recent information presented about oils, how many of you > > > have or are planning to switch to diesel oil? I think I will. > > > Bill Williams > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

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[Terry Sanders]

Apparently some of you folks have not been reading the entire post on reduction of zinc in oils.....The new oils are only a problem if you are breaking in a new engine with new camshaft and flat tappets...if you are doing this, you really should go to the Crane website and read what they are saying..........the old/new Castro20/50 will be fine in your old worn out engines...but rebuild it an not pay attention to the lack of Zinc additive and you are asking for trouble. Sears Diehards are fine too if you run your car enough or use a tricklee charger..... Terry in the Warehome Oakland, CA Malcolm Castle malcolmcastle@hotmail.com> wrote: Hello gang; I have been using Castrol 10-40 and 20-50 sinse the 50 s and i dont se the reason for change and ditto sears batterys Malcolm Castle.

>From: "john patterson" jwp_mgtc@chartermi.net> >To: "Robert Brennan" mgtc7794@gmail.com>,"ken porter" kwcp@comcast.net> >CC: "acmehumor" acmehumor@yahoo.com>,mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] OIL >Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:15:28 -0500 > >I have used Castrol oils for as long as I have had the TC ( 1956 ) and all >is fine. I also use Sears Die Hard batteries always. They >last for years with my low mileage running. > John P in thawing Michigan > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of >Robert Brennan >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 5:10 PM >To: ken porter >Cc: acmehumor; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] OIL > > >Is Castrol 20W50 now considered a zinc deficient has been? >Bob Brennan >S. Freeport, ME > >On 3/8/07, ken porter kwcp@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > All: > > I just bought a case of Red Line 20/50. > > Ken Porter Manchester NH TC4147 MGA > > > > acmehumor wrote: > > > > > > > > > After the recent information presented about oils, how many of you > > > have or are planning to switch to diesel oil? I think I will. > > > Bill Williams > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

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[Rick Waters]

So, I have an engine which has a new camshaft and lifters (2000 miles ago). I believe that assembly lube was used, bugt I did not actually see it. The lifters were galled slightly at 1000 miles. The oil used was Pennzoil 20W 50. At 1200 miles, I decided to take a look. the galling, according to the local camshaft shop, was hard to analyze, but he thought it was possibly dirt at assembly time. I had the lifters cleaned up, and re-assembled with Federal Mogul assembly lube. Used 20W 50 Castrol GTX oil. Took them out again 1000 miles later for a look, and all is well. I put them back in, again with lots of assembly lube. Now, will adding the new oil wash the assembly lube off the lifters and lobes? I assume it is safe to go back to Castrol 20W 50? -Rick Waters ----- Original Message ---- From: Terry Sanders taterry@pacbell.net> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2007 6:06:47 PM Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] OIL Apparently some of you folks have not been reading the entire post on reduction of zinc in oils.....The new oils are only a problem if you are breaking in a new engine with new camshaft and flat tappets...if you are doing this, you really should go to the Crane website and read what they are saying...... ....the old/new Castro20/50 will be fine in your old worn out engines...but rebuild it an not pay attention to the lack of Zinc additive and you are asking for trouble. Sears Diehards are fine too if you run your car enough or use a tricklee charger..... Terry in the Warehome Oakland, CA Malcolm Castle wrote: Hello gang; I have been using Castrol 10-40 and 20-50 sinse the 50 s and i dont se the reason for change and ditto sears batterys Malcolm Castle.

>From: "john patterson" >To: "Robert Brennan" ,"ken porter" >CC: "acmehumor" , >Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] OIL >Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:15:28 -0500 > >I have used Castrol oils for as long as I have had the TC ( 1956 ) and all >is fine. I also use Sears Die Hard batteries always. They >last for years with my low mileage running. > John P in thawing Michigan > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups .com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups .com]On Behalf Of >Robert Brennan >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 5:10 PM >To: ken porter >Cc: acmehumor; mg-tabc@yahoogroups .com >Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] OIL > > >Is Castrol 20W50 now considered a zinc deficient has been? >Bob Brennan >S. Freeport, ME > >On 3/8/07, ken porter wrote: > > > > All: > > I just bought a case of Red Line 20/50. > > Ken Porter Manchester NH TC4147 MGA > > > > acmehumor wrote: > > > > > > > > > After the recent information presented about oils, how many of you > > > have or are planning to switch to diesel oil? I think I will. > > > Bill Williams > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

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[Terry Sanders]

All I can say Rick is that I am switching to Delo 400 Diesel oil in all my engines. I used 20/50 Castrol for years but I switching. All that assembly lube you used had lots of ZDDP in it....and yes it will be diluted as you change oil....my thoughts are "why take the chance"? Terry Rick Waters rwmgtc@yahoo.ca> wrote: So, I have an engine which has a new camshaft and lifters (2000 miles ago). I believe that assembly lube was used, bugt I did not actually see it. The lifters were galled slightly at 1000 miles. The oil used was Pennzoil 20W 50. At 1200 miles, I decided to take a look. the galling, according to the local camshaft shop, was hard to analyze, but he thought it was possibly dirt at assembly time. I had the lifters cleaned up, and re-assembled with Federal Mogul assembly lube. Used 20W 50 Castrol GTX oil. Took them out again 1000 miles later for a look, and all is well. I put them back in, again with lots of assembly lube. Now, will adding the new oil wash the assembly lube off the lifters and lobes? I assume it is safe to go back to Castrol 20W 50? -Rick Waters ----- Original Message ---- From: Terry Sanders taterry@pacbell.net> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2007 6:06:47 PM Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] OIL Apparently some of you folks have not been reading the entire post on reduction of zinc in oils.....The new oils are only a problem if you are breaking in a new engine with new camshaft and flat tappets...if you are doing this, you really should go to the Crane website and read what they are saying...... ....the old/new Castro20/50 will be fine in your old worn out engines...but rebuild it an not pay attention to the lack of Zinc additive and you are asking for trouble. Sears Diehards are fine too if you run your car enough or use a tricklee charger..... Terry in the Warehome Oakland, CA Malcolm Castle wrote: Hello gang; I have been using Castrol 10-40 and 20-50 sinse the 50 s and i dont se the reason for change and ditto sears batterys Malcolm Castle.

>From: "john patterson" >To: "Robert Brennan" ,"ken porter" >CC: "acmehumor" , >Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] OIL >Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:15:28 -0500 > >I have used Castrol oils for as long as I have had the TC ( 1956 ) and all >is fine. I also use Sears Die Hard batteries always. They >last for years with my low mileage running. > John P in thawing Michigan > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups .com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups .com]On Behalf Of >Robert Brennan >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 5:10 PM >To: ken porter >Cc: acmehumor; mg-tabc@yahoogroups .com >Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] OIL > > >Is Castrol 20W50 now considered a zinc deficient has been? >Bob Brennan >S. Freeport, ME > >On 3/8/07, ken porter wrote: > > > > All: > > I just bought a case of Red Line 20/50. > > Ken Porter Manchester NH TC4147 MGA > > > > acmehumor wrote: > > > > > > > > > After the recent information presented about oils, how many of you > > > have or are planning to switch to diesel oil? I think I will. > > > Bill Williams > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

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[Rick Waters]

The Crane Cams article is found at: http://www.cranecams.com/ There is a link on the left hand side. I found the article informative and easy to read -Rick Waters ----- Original Message ---- From: Terry Sanders taterry@pacbell.net> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2007 6:06:47 PM Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] OIL Apparently some of you folks have not been reading the entire post on reduction of zinc in oils.....The new oils are only a problem if you are breaking in a new engine with new camshaft and flat tappets...if you are doing this, you really should go to the Crane website and read what they are saying...... ....the old/new Castro20/50 will be fine in your old worn out engines...but rebuild it an not pay attention to the lack of Zinc additive and you are asking for trouble. Sears Diehards are fine too if you run your car enough or use a tricklee charger..... Terry in the Warehome Oakland, CA Malcolm Castle wrote: Hello gang; I have been using Castrol 10-40 and 20-50 sinse the 50 s and i dont se the reason for change and ditto sears batterys Malcolm Castle.

>From: "john patterson" >To: "Robert Brennan" ,"ken porter" >CC: "acmehumor" , >Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] OIL >Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:15:28 -0500 > >I have used Castrol oils for as long as I have had the TC ( 1956 ) and all >is fine. I also use Sears Die Hard batteries always. They >last for years with my low mileage running. > John P in thawing Michigan > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups .com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups .com]On Behalf Of >Robert Brennan >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 5:10 PM >To: ken porter >Cc: acmehumor; mg-tabc@yahoogroups .com >Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] OIL > > >Is Castrol 20W50 now considered a zinc deficient has been? >Bob Brennan >S. Freeport, ME > >On 3/8/07, ken porter wrote: > > > > All: > > I just bought a case of Red Line 20/50. > > Ken Porter Manchester NH TC4147 MGA > > > > acmehumor wrote: > > > > > > > > > After the recent information presented about oils, how many of you > > > have or are planning to switch to diesel oil? I think I will. > > > Bill Williams > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

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[a corwin]

Terry, I noticed when i bought a case of Delo at Costco that they were already stocking the new Delo LE, so im thinking its time to invest in a couple more cases while the old formula is still available...BTW, the Crane site also noted Delo as an acceptable oil for use in breaking in their camshafts.......Aidan TC5381 Terry Sanders taterry@pacbell.net> wrote: All I can say Rick is that I am switching to Delo 400 Diesel oil in all my engines. I used 20/50 Castrol for years but I switching. All that assembly lube you used had lots of ZDDP in it....and yes it will be diluted as you change oil....my thoughts are "why take the chance"? Terry Rick Waters rwmgtc@yahoo.ca> wrote: So, I have an engine which has a new camshaft and lifters (2000 miles ago). I believe that assembly lube was used, bugt I did not actually see it. The lifters were galled slightly at 1000 miles. The oil used was Pennzoil 20W 50. At 1200 miles, I decided to take a look. the galling, according to the local camshaft shop, was hard to analyze, but he thought it was possibly dirt at assembly time. I had the lifters cleaned up, and re-assembled with Federal Mogul assembly lube. Used 20W 50 Castrol GTX oil. Took them out again 1000 miles later for a look, and all is well. I put them back in, again with lots of assembly lube. Now, will adding the new oil wash the assembly lube off the lifters and lobes? I assume it is safe to go back to Castrol 20W 50? -Rick Waters ----- Original Message ---- From: Terry Sanders taterry@pacbell.net> To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2007 6:06:47 PM Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] OIL Apparently some of you folks have not been reading the entire post on reduction of zinc in oils.....The new oils are only a problem if you are breaking in a new engine with new camshaft and flat tappets...if you are doing this, you really should go to the Crane website and read what they are saying...... ....the old/new Castro20/50 will be fine in your old worn out engines...but rebuild it an not pay attention to the lack of Zinc additive and you are asking for trouble. Sears Diehards are fine too if you run your car enough or use a tricklee charger..... Terry in the Warehome Oakland, CA Malcolm Castle wrote: Hello gang; I have been using Castrol 10-40 and 20-50 sinse the 50 s and i dont se the reason for change and ditto sears batterys Malcolm Castle.

>From: "john patterson" >To: "Robert Brennan" ,"ken porter" >CC: "acmehumor" , >Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] OIL >Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:15:28 -0500 > >I have used Castrol oils for as long as I have had the TC ( 1956 ) and all >is fine. I also use Sears Die Hard batteries always. They >last for years with my low mileage running. > John P in thawing Michigan > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: mg-tabc@yahoogroups .com [mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups .com]On Behalf Of >Robert Brennan >Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 5:10 PM >To: ken porter >Cc: acmehumor; mg-tabc@yahoogroups .com >Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] OIL > > >Is Castrol 20W50 now considered a zinc deficient has been? >Bob Brennan >S. Freeport, ME > >On 3/8/07, ken porter wrote: > > > > All: > > I just bought a case of Red Line 20/50. > > Ken Porter Manchester NH TC4147 MGA > > > > acmehumor wrote: > > > > > > > > > After the recent information presented about oils, how many of you > > > have or are planning to switch to diesel oil? I think I will. > > > Bill Williams > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >

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[joecurto@aol.com]

Remember that that article says that Diesel oils too will change so keep a weather eye out, Maybe the RED Line Products are what we should be using as they say they make specific oils for old cars Joe Curto ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Pavone, John (GE, Corporate)]

Joe, RED Line makes a great product but all their offerings are Synthetic. Probably not the best choice for breaking in a newly rebuilt motor or an older one which is already a bit "weepy". JP

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[joecurto@aol.com]

Ok I did not know, I have bought the GM EOS and the tappet lube, we are still digesting the applications on the bottles, it was not as cheap as the article said I had to buy a case of each and retail price was about 12.00 each Joe ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]