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[SherParker@aol.com]

To earlier listing of TD starter for sale. As it turns out it seems to be for a Midget. To avoid confusion the stampings are as follows: 25083J 12V M35G 3369 and the mounting holes are 4.5" c to c. I would still like to lighten my load. Reply of list if interested. thanks, sherwood

[Mark Hineline]

There's a misimpression on the list that I need to correct. My approach to this project has evolved a lot over the past two months. A restoration is a restoration, and I've elected to do a restoration. But there is no deadline that defines a restoration. At first, there will doubtless be a lot of mismatched stuff in TC 3409 (yes, I'm using that number). But it will always be a work in progress, aimed at having mostly original parts, then original parts that are correct for the 3409's time off the line, then matching numbers. Getting the correct XPAG back on this frame will be a goal, an ideal, even if it does not come to pass. So lets have no more of this "since it's going to be a phony anyway" talk (I'm winking toward you Gene). I'm never going to enlist as an Originality Cop, but I have every intention of being an Originality Saint. And the way I'm going about is as good as any other, since it takes many years to learn enough to talk about originality anyway. How many people have restored cars from basket cases on this list only to find out that the gee-gaws they spent four figures to replate aren't correct for the car? Mark TC 3409

[David Lodge]

Hello Mark, It seems to me that there are so many grey areas of TC production/assembly that after a lifetime of study a cherished belief becomes a hotly debated item overnight., largely thanks to the extremely knowledgeable folk on this list. Regards, David Lodge ----- ORIGINAL MESSAGE ----- From: "Mark Hineline" hineline@ocotillofield.net> To: "MG-TABC" mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [mg-tabc] Correction Date: 7.12.2005 - 20:08:17

> There's a misimpression on the list that I need to > correct. My approach > to this project has evolved a lot over the past two > months. > > A restoration is a restoration, and I've elected to do > a restoration. > > But there is no deadline that defines a restoration. > > At first, there will doubtless be a lot of mismatched > stuff in TC 3409 > (yes, I'm using that number). But it will always be a > work in progress, > aimed at having mostly original parts, then original > parts that are > correct for the 3409's time off the line, then matching > numbers. > Getting the correct XPAG back on this frame will be a > goal, an ideal, > even if it does not come to pass. > > So lets have no more of this "since it's going to be a > phony anyway" > talk (I'm winking toward you Gene). > > I'm never going to enlist as an Originality Cop, but I > have every > intention of being an Originality Saint. And the way > I'm going about is > as good as any other, since it takes many years to > learn enough to talk > about originality anyway. > > How many people have restored cars from basket cases on > this list only > to find out that the gee-gaws they spent four figures > to replate aren't > correct for the car? > > Mark > TC 3409 > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >

[Mark Hineline]

David, and others, Can you expand on this? It seems as though you are saying -- correct me if I am wrong -- that all the extremely knowledgeable people there will ever be already exist, and that I would be wasting my time to study and learn? Surely that means that someday, not soon but someday, there won't be anyone who knows anything about these cars. If, on the other hand, you are simply saying that there are gray areas and that even the experts don't agree on any number of things, I've certainly seen that first hand over the past few days. Or do you perhaps mean both these things? Or something else? Mark

On Dec 10, 2005, at 11:10 AM, David Lodge wrote: > It seems to me that there are so many grey areas of TC > production/assembly that after a lifetime of study a cherished > belief becomes a hotly debated item overnight., largely thanks to > the extremely knowledgeable folk on this list.

[David Lodge]

I meant the second paragraph of your erudite epistle. Regards, David Lodge ----- ORIGINAL MESSAGE ----- From: "Mark Hineline" hineline@ocotillofield.net> To: "David Lodge" archie_ponsonby@post.cz> Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Correction Date: 10.12.2005 - 20:39:13

> David, and others, > > Can you expand on this? It seems as though you are > saying -- correct me > if I am wrong -- that all the extremely knowledgeable > people there will > ever be already exist, and that I would be wasting my > time to study and > learn? Surely that means that someday, not soon but > someday, there > won't be anyone who knows anything about these cars. > > If, on the other hand, you are simply saying that there > are gray areas > and that even the experts don't agree on any number of > things, I've > certainly seen that first hand over the past few days. > > Or do you perhaps mean both these things? Or something > else? > > Mark > > On Dec 10, 2005, at 11:10 AM, David Lodge wrote: > > > It seems to me that there are so many grey areas of > > TC > > production/assembly that after a lifetime of study a > > cherished > > belief becomes a hotly debated item overnight., > > largely thanks to > > the extremely knowledgeable folk on this list. > >

[Mark Hineline]

On Dec 10, 2005, at 3:31 PM, David Lodge wrote:

> I meant the second paragraph of your erudite epistle.

Okay, I'm glad. Not erudite, though; more like awkward student. Gosh, I'll be glad when the hazing period is over in a few years. I'm getting a crick from looking over my shoulder. Mark

[Chip Old]

On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 15:45 -0800, Mark Hineline wrote:

> Gosh, I'll be glad when the hazing period is over in a few years. I'm > getting a crick from looking over my shoulder.

Mark, it will never end. As long as you own a TC and associate with other TC owners, the hazing (as you call it) will continue because no two owners can ever agree on what a TC was, is, or should be. If you were to put all the world's TC owners in one room and tell them to come to agreement on what constitutes "TC", the resulting melee would make the mess in Iraq look like peacetime. -- Chip Old 1948 M.G. TC Cub Hill, Maryland, US TC6710 XPAG7430 fold@bcpl.net NEMGTR #2271

[Mark Hineline]

Ah, so what I'm (mis)perceiving as hazing is in fact a deeply held, possibly genetic constitutional cantankerousness that effects all TC owners? I find this comforting, in some perverse way.

On Dec 10, 2005, at 4:54 PM, Chip Old wrote: > Mark, it will never end. As long as you own a TC and associate with > other > TC owners, the hazing (as you call it) will continue because no two > owners > can ever agree on what a TC was, is, or should be. If you were to put > all > the world's TC owners in one room and tell them to come to agreement on > what constitutes "TC", the resulting melee would make the mess in Iraq > look like peacetime.

[Peter Roberts]

Mark, What is the limit of travel of the front shock arms? _Peter

[Mark L. Hineline]

Peter, Hmm, not in Blower that I can see, not in Sherrell. How about: anywhere the car travels, the front shock arms go with it? Mark

On Dec 10, 2005, at 8:10 PM, Peter Roberts wrote: > Mark, > > What is the limit of travel of the front shock arms? > > _Peter