----- Original Message ----- [b]From:[/b] Oldmgdoc@aol.com [b]To:[/b] walter@publi-consult.com [b]Sent:[/b] Thursday, June 07, 2001 4:32 AM [b]Subject:[/b] Re: [mg-tabc] sender units bolt thread The tank unit thread is 8-32. Mike Goodman
sender units bolt thread
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Re: sender units bolt thread
it seems mike is right. i can measure 32 tpi and a diameter of about 3,96mm = 0,158" that should be UNC 8 32 tpi !? walter
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Re: sender units bolt thread
Why is someone with no sense of humour driving a T?
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> > > mrbadger wrote: > > > > > > Can we please move on to a new thread? > > > ...I could do without the flippant remarks... > > Charles Hill > > It's a joke Chuckie, just a joke. Lighten up! > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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Re: sender units bolt thread
A good source for BA & BSF machine screws & nuts is Metric &
Multistandard Components Corp in Hawthorne, NY 800-431-2792. They have a
catalog & many other fasteners too.
Craig Seabrook
Whitworth Shop
Chip Old wrote:
> > On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Charles Hill wrote: > > > Actually, I would like to know more about the BA threads used in TCs. > > It seems like practically every nut, bolt and screw less than 1/4 inch > > is a BA thread. Information on this standard is hard to come by, and > > the hardware is even harder to find. >
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Re: [mg-tabc] Sender units bolt thread hi Charles - you did ask, so here goes...
BA stands for British Association (of what though?) and is actually a METRIC
thread!!!
It was filched from the Swiss who invented it for watchmaking. Now here
comes the maths:
The pitch P = 0.9 to the power of N, the BA number, rounded off to the nearest 0.01mm.
Rather than try to use a tpi thread gauge, it is best to use a proper BA one.
The diameter D = 6 x (P raised to the power of 1.2)
The very small ones are now obsolete and replaced by standard horological
threads, but the ones of interest to us are:
BA No. Diam (inches) Pitch (mm) Hexagon size (AF, inches)
0 0.2362 1.00 0.412
1 0.2087 0.90 0.365
2 0.1850 0.81 0.324
3 0.1614 0.73 0.282
4 0.1417 0.66 0.248
5 0.1260 0.59 0.220
6 0.1102 0.53 0.193
I would stake my TC on the fact that there are [b]NO[/b] "foreign" threads on a TA/B.C, so while
the 8/32 might be close to 3BA it was never original. Apart from the totally different thread
angle (BA 47.5 degs, American fine or coarse 60 degs) it is a slightly larger diam. so while it
might appear to be a nice tight fit, it ain't right!!!
As I said the other day, BA is still easy to find in England, so contact me
if you need any. Actually, BA was used mainly in all the Lucas bits, metric
in engine (so e.g. fanbolts are 5mm & not 2BA) and some of the smaller body
fixings are BSW (Whitworth). Having just lent an SU carburettor to a friend
who has stripped the float bowl bolt thread in the body, so he can get to
Silverstone, I now know that this one is 7/16" BSF, when most people would
have put money on it being BSP.
ocTagonally
TCRoger
Charles Hill wrote:
>Actually, I would like to know more about the BA threads used in TCs. >It seems like practically every nut, bolt and screw less than 1/4 inch >is a BA thread. Information on this standard is hard to come by, and >the hardware is even harder to find.
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Re: sender units bolt thread
Charles
You're quite right, in T-types most threads smaller than 1/4 inch are BA.
This also extends to most other equipment made in UK, Australia and probably
other places with British connexions, up till metrication in mid 70s
onwards. Preferred sizes were 'even number' BA, except for Lucas and one or
two others who frequently used the 'odd' numbers, like the 3BA securing the
fuel tank sender unit.
BA fasteners are still fairly readily available in Australia (at least in
Sydney). I even bought the 3BA for the tank not too long ago. I would
imagine that they could be obtained in UK too - no doubt someone will advise
on that.
If any of you need BA sizes let me know size, length and head type and I'll
see what I can get for you locally.
Regards
Dave Dwyer
J2, TA, TC
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erwin.lifestyle@t-online.de wrote:
Precisely so! I would have thought a sense of humor would be a prerequisite to driving a "T". Badger (Always with tongue firmly planted in cheek in spite of endless drivel about threads and bolts)> > Why is someone with no sense of humour driving a T? >
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Re: sender units bolt thread
Would have thought it somewhat dangerous to drive a T with tongue in cheek,
especially down the type of tracks we drive! One could end up with a
permanent lisp! It's probably why Badger always seems to drivel!
Brian
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> erwin.lifestyle@t-online.de wrote: > > > > Why is someone with no sense of humour driving a T? > > > Precisely so! I would have thought a sense of humor would be a > prerequisite to driving a "T". > Badger (Always with tongue firmly planted in cheek in spite of endless > drivel about threads and bolts) > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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Re: sender units bolt thread
In a message dated 06/08/2001 3:36:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
seabrook@en.com writes:
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Hi Craig, I'll second that recomendation. I've been to their shop and
they have a great supply. Bob TC4956
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Re: sender units bolt thread
In a message dated 06/08/2001 6:39:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
mrbadger@home.com writes:
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DRIVING? Some of you actualy got your pile of parts assembled into
something functional? Bob TC4956
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Re: sender units bolt thread
Yes, I know. I've bought a lot of BS fittings from them over the years.
It was from their catalog that I got the data for that chart of BA sizes I
posted a few days ago.
On Fri, 8 Jun 2001 seabrook@en.com wrote: > A good source for BA & BSF machine screws & nuts is Metric & > Multistandard Components Corp in Hawthorne, NY 800-431-2792. They have > a catalog & many other fasteners too. Chip
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