Lift the dot/gas tank buffer to chasssis fastener/motor paint

[frank drakman]

I was pleased when the original question about Lift the Dot fasteners was posted as I will be into this project, hopefuly within a month or so. Yes..I suppose not too many people would lose too much sleep if I was to put them in "non original" places. But I would rather at least know where they were placed originally.

I have been speaking with a couple people here in Ottawa about the gas tank buffers and how they were secured to the chassis - it appears to us that copper split rivets were used. I ordered from a local supplier 3/4" split rivets (brass - but don't tell anyone!)

Re engine paint - My TC is a later model. Bob Grunau suggested PPG colour "maroon" 50782. I got a sample and just last night painted a scrap piece of metal with it as that is a project I hope to be doing this week sometime. I liked the look. It "looks" original to me.

I do have a question though. The paint I plan to use is a good quality PPG epoxy "Concept". I spoke with Tom Metcalfe in the US who states that the motor does not get hot enough to require an actual engine paint to be used. Does anyone have any ideas about that?

Rob Greaves

Ottawa, Canada

[Neil Nelson]

Rob, I have painted many MG engines and have used Alkyd Enamel, Ditzler, PPG, DuPont, RM .. they all seem to last a very long time. You are correct in thinking the engine does not get hot enough to require high temp paint. The last two engines were painted in DuPont Centari and the paint is holding up very well on them also. For what it s worth, Cold Galv works nicely on exhaust manifolds, not the original color as they were metal sprayed aluminum. Cold Galv gives a gray/green finish and cures with engine exhaust heat. Which ever paint you decide to use, be sure the engine is CLEAN before painting. We bead blast the manifold before painting, and all blocks are sent out to be boiled before rebuilding. Then after the rebuild the exterior of the blocks are thoroughly cleaned with soap and water, metal prep and finally thinner. Try to not handle the cleaned parts with bare hands as even the oils in your hands can screw up a good paint job. Avoid excess paint build-up as the engine needs its rough finish to increase the cooling surface. Too smooth a surface will eliminate all those little hills and valleys and reduce the overall cooling area.

My gas tank buffers were originally installed on my 46 TC with split rivets, head under the frame, split parts bent back over the pads.

Good luck,

Neil Nelson

TC 0526

-----Original Message----- [b]From:[/b] Tammy Greaves [mailto:t.greaves@hyperlinx.net] [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, April 02, 2001 4:32 PM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] [mg-tabc] Lift the dot/gas tank buffer to chasssis fastener/motor paint

I was pleased when the original question about Lift the Dot fasteners was posted as I will be into this project, hopefuly within a month or so. Yes..I suppose not too many people would lose too much sleep if I was to put them in "non original" places. But I would rather at least know where they were placed originally.

I have been speaking with a couple people here in Ottawa about the gas tank buffers and how they were secured to the chassis - it appears to us that copper split rivets were used. I ordered from a local supplier 3/4" split rivets (brass - but don't tell anyone!)

Re engine paint - My TC is a later model. Bob Grunau suggested PPG colour "maroon" 50782. I got a sample and just last night painted a scrap piece of metal with it as that is a project I hope to be doing this week sometime. I liked the look. It "looks" original to me.

I do have a question though. The paint I plan to use is a good quality PPG epoxy "Concept". I spoke with Tom Metcalfe in the US who states that the motor does not get hot enough to require an actual engine paint to be used. Does anyone have any ideas about that?

Rob Greaves

Ottawa, Canada

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[ross macpherson]

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[quote] -----Original Message----- [b]From:[/b] Neil Nelson [mailto:nwnel@mediaone.net] [b]Sent:[/b] Monday, April 02, 2001 9:32 PM [b]To:[/b] mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com [b]Subject:[/b] RE: [mg-tabc] Lift the dot/gas tank buffer to chasssis fastener/motor paint For what it s worth, Cold Galv works nicely on exhaust manifolds, not the original color as they were metal sprayed aluminum. Cold Galv gives a gray/green finish and cures with engine exhaust heat. Which ever paint you decide to use, be sure the engine is CLEAN before painting.

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[joecurto@aol.com]

Ross we have used cold galvanize in my shop with good results, I personally had my manifold Aluminized and had the problem you had, finally I opted for the Jet Hot coating, they have a gray or black, looks good after 3 years and with the supercharger it has not burned through. joe curto

[Neil Nelson]

Joe, what is Jet Hot coating? Is it something you obtain locally in your area, can apply on your own or something that has to be sent away for? Neil Nelson TC 0526 -----Original Message----- From: JoeCurto@aol.com [mailto:JoeCurto@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 8:18 AM To: arm@telus.net; nwnel@mediaone.net; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [mg-tabc] Lift the dot/gas tank buffer to chasssis fastener/motor paint Ross we have used cold galvanize in my shop with good results, I personally had my manifold Aluminized and had the problem you had, finally I opted for the Jet Hot coating, they have a gray or black, looks good after 3 years and with the supercharger it has not burned through. joe curto

[joecurto@aol.com]

Jet Hot is one of those companies advertising in Hemmings, look in Services offered, the guy I sent to had an office in Conn, but the plant was down south, I believe they have a silver coating but it looks a little modern. Joe