Dear Group:
I saw a note about oiling the leaf springs to improve ride. Does anyone have any experience using teflon straps between the leaf springs instead of oil. It seems it would be less messy and should improve ride also. I have seen the material on Restoration Stuff.
Pete L.
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Gose, Eddie
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Re: Shock Absorbers
Murray:
When I purchased TC8259 it had rear tube shocks installed. It is clear
from viewing the brackets that this was a job done by one of the former
owners and not a "kit". It does not appear to be a major deal to make
the brackets since they bolt up to the same brackets used for the
Girlings....at least that is how it is done on my TC. I am not happy or
unhappy with them, they seem to ride just fine and I do not detect any
troubles with "too little travel".........but I have acquired several
Girling shocks and various lever arms in order to convert back to the
lever shocks. I am thankful that the Girling mounting brackets are still
in place and, it appears, undamaged. I think the same mounting holes
were used. I am still in the process of getting all the right pieces
and will then send the shocks off for rebuild and reinstall the "correct
shocks" on my very original 1949 "Home Market" TC. At that point, the
tube shocks and brackets will be available if anyone has an interest in
them. I am trying to keep our little car as original as I can since
there seems to be fewer of them around that have not been modified over
time.
Eddie
TC8259
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Subject: [mg-tabc] Shock Absorbers
G'day all,
What is the collective wisdom relating to tube shock absorbers
on a TC? Is
fitting them worth the effort or is the improvement (if any)
only marginal).
Are there any kits available for converting front &/or rear?
Murray Arundell
Brisbane Aus
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Pavone, John (GE, Corporate)
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Re: Shock Absorbers
Pete,
I have no experience with Teflon straps but I use motorcycle chain lube
instead of oil. It doesn't drip and is very resistant to water. It also
does a good job, as I've always thought that my TC rode nicely.
JP
TC2797
Dear Group: I saw a note about oiling the leaf springs to improve ride. Does anyone have any experience using teflon straps between the leaf springs instead of oil. It seems it would be less messy and should improve ride also. I have seen the material on Restoration Stuff. Pete L. --------------------------------- The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Terry Sanders
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Re: Shock Absorbers
The best thing I ever did to improve the ride on the TA was to lube and then wrap the springs to keep it in place. I used some silicone based grease. There was a "spring spreader" on Ebay recently by the firm of "Terry".....but it was in UK and got bid up too high for me.
Would have been neat to just have one!!
Terry in Oakland
Bob Grunau grunau.garage@sympatico.ca> wrote:
I agree with Terry, not enough axle movement to bother with telescopics shocks. Besides they look cheap ( which they are ) and crappy.. Original hydraulic shocks work fine if the correct fluid is used. I use #20 motorcycle fork oil in the shocks. Want stiffer? use #25.
I think its more important to lube the spring leaves once in a while to improve the TC ride.
Bob Grunau
Murray, my TA came equiped with tube shocks...on the front end....I didn't get to drive it much before launching into the total restoration but IMHO, the springs on a TC are too short to take any advantage of tube shocks...I now have friction shocks on the TA and adjusting them is easy...however, at any adjustment, there isn't much effect. Just enjoy the TC rough ride as designed!! 
Terry
Murray Arundell arundell@ghs.com.au> wrote:
G'day all,
What is the collective wisdom relating to tube shock absorbers on a TC? Is
fitting them worth the effort or is the improvement (if any) only marginal).
Are there any kits available for converting front &/or rear?
Murray Arundell
Brisbane Aus
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Terry
Murray Arundell arundell@ghs.com.au> wrote:
G'day all,
What is the collective wisdom relating to tube shock absorbers on a TC? Is
fitting them worth the effort or is the improvement (if any) only marginal).
Are there any kits available for converting front &/or rear?
Murray Arundell
Brisbane Aus
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Rick Waters
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Re: Shock Absorbers
I somehow believe that the best course of action with regards to the TC suspension is to periodically take it all apart. Clean and repaint the spring leaves, then make sure none of the fasteners holding the axle to the springs are defective. If you are using rubber shackle bushings, you might as well replace them now.
Grease the springs, re-assemble, and bolt it all together. The lever arm shocks seem to last forever, they just leak. Like many others, I use motorcycle fork oil (Belray) but I use 7.5 or 10 viscosity, as the ride seems more supple that way. They need replenishing when the sun shines on them, and expands the metal, forcing oil out. They seem to hold oil better in the cold months.
Now why should you do this? Because the TC needs axle to spring bolt checking regularly anyway, and because that's why you bought this sort of car in the first place isn't it--to get good and dirty. Nothing does a better job of blackening under your fingernails than the grease on the springs.
-Rick Waters
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Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Shock Absorbers
Pete,
I have no experience with Teflon straps but I use motorcycle chain lube
instead of oil. It doesn't drip and is very resistant to water. It also
does a good job, as I've always thought that my TC rode nicely.
JP
TC2797
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Paroor
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AW: [mg-tabc] Shock Absorbers
Hi Murry,
Stay with original Luvax !!!
If not why don't you get air cushion or the central hydraulic suspension
system ? Borgward had the air cushion suspension in the P100 model
designed in 1962. All the top range MB do have this now as standard fitting
?
If you intend to fit telescopic shock absorbers combine it with a central
hydraulic pump !!! You can let the TC dance with the music !!!
You can buy the kits in US.
Madhu
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G'day all,
What is the collective wisdom relating to tube shock absorbers on a TC? Is
fitting them worth the effort or is the improvement (if any) only
marginal).
Are there any kits available for converting front &/or rear?
Murray Arundell
Brisbane Aus
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Terry Sanders
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Re: Shock Absorbers
Steve, in England there is a black gutter repair tape, they have a generic name for it which I cannot recall right now. I think I've seen something similar at Home Depot. Its very sticky and when overlapped on your grease covered springs will not let water in (we don't have rain,so that is no problem!!). The Brits just let this stuff get covered with dirt and it develops a nice patina....I decided to buy some hemming tape at a frabric store and wrap it to make it look better. Oh, Denso tape it was called! Its best to do this after the disassemble springs have been greased and put back together before putting them on the car.
Terry
Steve S websim@pacbell.net> wrote:
Hey Terry, how did you wrap your springs? I've been thinking about doing this but never see any other TCs with such a setup. Any downsides? Trapped water / rust?
- Steve Simmons
----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Sanders To: Bob Grunau ; Murray Arundell ; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 7:52 PM Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Shock Absorbers The best thing I ever did to improve the ride on the TA was to lube and then wrap the springs to keep it in place. I used some silicone based grease. There was a "spring spreader" on Ebay recently by the firm of "Terry".....but it was in UK and got bid up too high for me. Would have been neat to just have one!! Terry in Oakland Bob Grunau grunau.garage@sympatico.ca> wrote: I agree with Terry, not enough axle movement to bother with telescopics shocks. Besides they look cheap ( which they are ) and crappy.. Original hydraulic shocks work fine if the correct fluid is used. I use #20 motorcycle fork oil in the shocks. Want stiffer? use #25. I think its more important to lube the spring leaves once in a while to improve the TC ride. Bob Grunau Murray, my TA came equiped with tube shocks...on the front end....I didn't get to drive it much before launching into the total restoration but IMHO, the springs on a TC are too short to take any advantage of tube shocks...I now have friction shocks on the TA and adjusting them is easy...however, at any adjustment, there isn't much effect. Just enjoy the TC rough ride as designed!!
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Graham Knight
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Re: Shock Absorbers
Terry,
My springs have been wrapped in something called "Denso Tape" which
seems to be a US product (http://www.densona.com/Index.htm). I think
it is waterproof and corrosion resistant, and is used for wrapping
pipes that are going to be inaccessible - last time I used it was
when chasing some pipes into my bathroom wall. In the '70s I was
advised to take the clips off the springs, paint between the leaves
with thick oil, replace the clips and wrap with the tape. The tape
sticks to itself and just stays in place. Looks pretty rough (like
the rest of the car) but it is still there after 35 years and seems
to be effective.
Graham
At 23:20 23/01/2007, you wrote:
>Steve, in England there is a black gutter repair tape, they have a >generic name for it which I cannot recall right now. I think I've >seen something similar at Home Depot. Its very sticky and when >overlapped on your grease covered springs will not let water in (we >don't have rain,so that is no problem!!). The Brits just let this >stuff get covered with dirt and it develops a nice patina....I >decided to buy some hemming tape at a frabric store and wrap it to >make it look better. Oh, Denso tape it was called! Its best to do >this after the disassemble springs have been greased and put back >together before putting them on the car. > Terry > >Steve S websim@pacbell.net> wrote: > Hey Terry, how did you wrap your springs? I've been thinking > about doing this but never see any other TCs with such a > setup. Any downsides? Trapped water / rust? > > - Steve Simmons > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Terry Sanders > To: Bob Grunau ; Murray Arundell ; mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 7:52 PM > Subject: RE: [mg-tabc] Shock Absorbers > > > The best thing I ever did to improve the ride on the TA was > to lube and then wrap the springs to keep it in place. I used some > silicone based grease. There was a "spring spreader" on Ebay > recently by the firm of "Terry".....but it was in UK and got bid up > too high for me. >Would have been neat to just have one!! >Terry in Oakland > >Bob Grunau grunau.garage@sympatico.ca> wrote: >I agree with Terry, not enough axle movement to bother with >telescopics shocks. Besides they look cheap ( which they are ) and >crappy.. Original hydraulic shocks work fine if the correct fluid is >used. I use #20 motorcycle fork oil in the shocks. Want stiffer? use #25. >I think its more important to lube the spring leaves once in a while >to improve the TC ride. >Bob Grunau > > >Murray, my TA came equiped with tube shocks...on the front end....I >didn't get to drive it much before launching into the total >restoration but IMHO, the springs on a TC are too short to take any >advantage of tube shocks...I now have friction shocks on the TA and >adjusting them is easy...however, at any adjustment, there isn't >much effect. Just enjoy the TC rough ride as designed!!
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Malcolm Castle
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Re: Shock Absorbers
Murray, I have front and rear tube shocks on my 48 TC Ihave put over 350,000
miles with no problem the brackets were on the TC when I purched it in 1955
Cheers Malcolm Castle
_________________________________________________________________ Get Hilary Duff s homepage with her photos, music, and more. http://celebrities.live.com>From: "Murray Arundell" arundell@ghs.com.au> >To: mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: [mg-tabc] Shock Absorbers >Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:01:31 +1000 > >G'day all, > > > >What is the collective wisdom relating to tube shock absorbers on a TC? Is >fitting them worth the effort or is the improvement (if any) only >marginal). >Are there any kits available for converting front &/or rear? > > > >Murray Arundell > >Brisbane Aus > > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > >
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Gene Gillam
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Re: Shock Absorbers
Malcolm wrote:
350,000 miles with no problem the brackets were on the TC when I purched it in 1955>Murray, I have front and rear tube shocks on my 48 TC Ihave put over
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