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[Guest]

I did the rear progressive spring over stock shock and love it. I am 6'2" 230 lbs. Before, with the stock setup I was bottoming out the shock constantly, with the new arrangement I go the whole day often and never bottom it out. I am not saying that I never bottom it out but very rarely. Bill "SandShark" Message: 12 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:34:36 -0800 From: darkwing327@... Subject: Somebody convince me re:rear shock spirng! Hello All. I need some convincing here to set my mind at ease. On my 2002 KLR I have the progressive fork springs ready to be installed, however, I know I need some help in the rear as well. I can't justify a $400.00+ shock for the amount of riding I do but am also weary of using the progressive spring by itself. I have read advice that being under 190 pounds is no good with this spring. I weigh 230+/- depending on the day, so I don't think this is an issue. I do ride two up occasionally on fairly tame roads, and I do end up in some fairly big holes when riding alone, hence the suspension needs. Any reason I shouldn't use the spring, especially concerning the dampening problem mentioned on Dual Star's website? Many thanks to all in advance. Darren

[Chris Krok]

> From: "mrmooseisloose" > Subject: Trashed shock | Looking for advice on new one > I have some decent money in the front end and can feel the benifits > of it and so I am sold on getting everthing that I can for the rear > shock.

http://www.worksperformance.com/ Works Performance will do a "heart transplant" of your existing shock, and they also make aftermarket replacements. I bought the Ultra Cross a few years ago for my KLR, and wish I had done it when I first got the bike. They build each shock to order, so they will tune it to your weight and riding style.

> 1. Can I get a fully adjustable shock? (compression and rebound > damping)

Don't know about the other brands, but when I ordered my Ultra Cross, the model with adjustable compression damping wasn't available for the KLR. Only rebound and preload adjustments. But, they _do_ have one with adjustable compression, so maybe you can talk them into it. Krokko -- Dr. J. Christopher Krok John Lucas Adaptive Wind Tunnel Caltech MS 205-45, Pasadena, CA 91125

[bgunn100]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "brucelebaron" wrote:

> I am looking for a rear shock for my 92 klr650. either stock or

aftermarket. has anyone replaced the stock rear shock with aftermarket ? what did you get and are you happy with it Heres one place to get either. http://www.dual- star.com/index2/Brand/Kawasaki/KLR_650_Suspension.htm

[Chris]

If you are say 200lbs or more, I would highly recommend the LR 500-560 Progressive spring on the stock shock if you go that route. I just put one on and it made a world of difference. I actually have two clicks of preload left to use and I'm 270. Then again I'm not a hardcore offroader and it would probably also like a revalving and oil upgrade for better damping too.

On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 11:15:08PM -0000, brucelebaron wrote: > I am looking for a rear shock for my 92 klr650. either stock or aftermarket. has anyone replaced the stock rear shock with aftermarket ? what did you get and are you happy with it > -- ___ ______ _____ __ ________ ___ / _ |< < / == / ___/__ / /_ /_ __/ / __ ____ _ ___ /__ \ / __ |/ // / ****/ (_ / _ \/ __/ / / / _ \/ // / ' \/ _ \ /__/ /_/ |_/_//_/ == \___/\___/\__/ /_/ /_//_/\_,_/_/_/_/ .__/ (_) 8600 miles*Russel Lines*Supertrapp Race* /_/ http://www.panix.com/~cesser/mybike/

[wannabsmooth1]

Some guy named Fred at arrowheadmotorsports.com has the Progressive springs, and spring/shock assembly. Mike Eagle Mfg & Eng San Diego, Ca. --- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "brucelebaron" wrote:

> I am looking for a rear shock for my 92 klr650. either stock or

aftermarket. has anyone replaced the stock rear shock with aftermarket ? what did you get and are you happy with it

[Inwoods650@aol.com]

Stock KLR shock works pretty well overall when new. Shock & spring came to be useless approaching 10k miles of mostly offroad riding abuse. LR 420 Series shock & spring solved that. Maybe better shocks out there, but I'm real pleased with this one. Did get a Moose shock cover for it, though. As the rebound adjuster is right out in the open...looks vulnerable to mud/water crossings. (doesn't have a cap/cover as the stock KLR rebound adjuster has..that thing actually works really well) Does start to fade a little after extended bouncing around, off the road. But I'll never race motocross on this bike, so it's not an issue. The Much stronger spring is great for the two up off road stuff. Lots of preload adjustability once you get get a couple hundred pounds on the bike. Definitely look around for all options as there maybe more than what was available when I bought the 420. At that time, Ohlins was rumored to have something in the works, but looked like Big bucks...which would be fine for competition. Sounds like Chris Krok found a slick aftermarket alternative. All best. Scott A14 "thunderdog" Sorrento, FL In a message dated 12/1/2003 7:11:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, brucelebaron@... writes:

> I am looking for a rear shock for my 92 klr650. either stock or > aftermarket. has anyone replaced the stock rear shock with aftermarket ? what did you > get and are you happy with it

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[thad_carey]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "brucelebaron" wrote:

> I am looking for a rear shock for my 92 klr650. either stock or

aftermarket. has anyone replaced the stock rear shock with aftermarket ? what did you get and are you happy with it I put a Progressive LR shock on my '01. I don't think you notice the difference much on pavement or for slow plonking off road. However, when you go off road and get any speed up, both compression and rebound qualities of the shock stay very consistent on rough dirt roads and rocky terrain. This is where this shock is an advantage. Some don't think that it's worth it, but I think it depends on how you value your off road suspension performance. Thad Carey A15 (but GI Joe has left the building)

[bigfatgreenbike]

ttcarey1@... wrote:

>--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "brucelebaron" wrote: > > >>I am looking for a rear shock for my 92 klr650. >> > I put a Progressive LR shock on my '01. I don't think you >notice the difference much on pavement or for slow plonking off >road. However, when you go off road and get any speed up, both >compression and rebound qualities of the shock stay very consistent >on rough dirt roads and rocky terrain. >

Enjoy it while it lasts, it won't. I'm about to send off my Progressive 420 shock to a suspension tuner to be revalved. Progressive refuses to revalve or otherwise adjust their own product, so that pretty much disqualifies them as a serious suspension company in my book. They sell cheap stuff that works pretty well. This fits the general mission of the KLR, and most of the time for most riders their stuff mostly works just fine. Both the 420 and the stocker have bad fading problems with prolonged agressive offroading- long sections of whoops etc... which plague the south NJ trails. I had a freshly serviced stock shock with the PS 500/560 spring, and then switched to a new 420 shock with the same spring. An improvement, but not a massive one. And the 420 shock seems to have no better resistance to fading. The people who swear the 420 is a monumental improvement over stock, were likely replacing a sacked-out shock with a 300lb/in spring (and a ton of preload) with a fresh shock with a 500-560lb/in spring (and a more reasonable amount of preload). The 420 is a decent improvement over stock, more plush over rocks and tree roots but still with bottoming problems in whoops and other low-speed compression situations. A $400 improvement, I don't know. So while I'm sending out the Progressive 420 shock, I'm using a fresh take-off shock from Dual-star, and a 400lb/in spring from eshocks.com. It feels way better than the dead 420 I took off, but I don't have any chanc for trail time in the near future. I hope to have the tuner rip out the internal bladder from the 420, fit an external reservior (and compression clickers), and change the valving. Maybe hard anodize the body if I can afford it. -- Devon Brooklyn, NY A15-Z '01 KLR650 '81 SR500 cafe racer "The truth's not too popular these days....." Arnold Schwarzenneger, in The Running Man

[Mike T - AGI]

Hi. I to have the Progressive rear shock/spring assembly. Also confirm it fades when worked. The work that you are doing sounds promising. Please keep us posted, incl. final cost and assessment of its 'new found' fade resistance. Mike T A16 Las Vegas ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter http://mail.giantcompany.com -----Original Message----- From: bigfatgreenbike [mailto:bigfatgreenbike@...] Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 7:56 PM To: KLR650 group Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] Re: rear shock ttcarey1@... wrote:

>--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "brucelebaron"

wrote:

> > >>I am looking for a rear shock for my 92 klr650. >> > I put a Progressive LR shock on my '01. I don't think you >notice the difference much on pavement or for slow plonking off >road. However, when you go off road and get any speed up, both >compression and rebound qualities of the shock stay very consistent >on rough dirt roads and rocky terrain. >

Enjoy it while it lasts, it won't. I'm about to send off my Progressive 420 shock to a suspension tuner to be revalved. Progressive refuses to revalve or otherwise adjust their own product, so that pretty much disqualifies them as a serious suspension company in my book. They sell cheap stuff that works pretty well. This fits the general mission of the KLR, and most of the time for most riders their stuff mostly works just fine. Both the 420 and the stocker have bad fading problems with prolonged agressive offroading- long sections of whoops etc... which plague the south NJ trails. I had a freshly serviced stock shock with the PS 500/560 spring, and then switched to a new 420 shock with the same spring. An improvement, but not a massive one. And the 420 shock seems to have no better resistance to fading. The people who swear the 420 is a monumental improvement over stock, were likely replacing a sacked-out shock with a 300lb/in spring (and a ton of preload) with a fresh shock with a 500-560lb/in spring (and a more reasonable amount of preload). The 420 is a decent improvement over stock, more plush over rocks and tree roots but still with bottoming problems in whoops and other low-speed compression situations. A $400 improvement, I don't know. So while I'm sending out the Progressive 420 shock, I'm using a fresh take-off shock from Dual-star, and a 400lb/in spring from eshocks.com. It feels way better than the dead 420 I took off, but I don't have any chanc for trail time in the near future. I hope to have the tuner rip out the internal bladder from the 420, fit an external reservior (and compression clickers), and change the valving. Maybe hard anodize the body if I can afford it. -- Devon Brooklyn, NY A15-Z '01 KLR650 '81 SR500 cafe racer "The truth's not too popular these days....." Arnold Schwarzenneger, in The Running Man List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

[Glen]

When I bought my A14 used this summer the guy who sold it to me was fairly big and the rear shock was set on 5, I have ridden it the exact way that he had it set up since day one. I am 160 pounds and he was probably 200 and some. If I turn the rear shock down to three would that be better off, and if I did then would I need to mess with the all the other settings?? I haven't looked into the suspension much at all if anyone maybe has a link to a detailed site or something that would give me some much needed info. By the way when I ride it is usually just me and a backpack so probably only about 180 pounds total rider and gear! Thanks Glenski(tinkering with the KiLleR all winter long) A14