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[notanymoore]

I dumped the OEM rubber a year after purchasing  my 2006 KLR (new) . Been using Bridgestone Trailwings since.  They''re great tires, but now they're a little higher price than I want.  I've been looking at budget tires - Kenda K270's, Shinko, but the Internet is full of horror stories about rubber blocks falling off, squirrely handling or exploding tires.  Though most posts are from the last decade.  Anyone got a current recommendation?  I'd say I'm 80/20 on/off road.  Offroad is mainly fire trails, gravel roads etc.  I'm not into jumping stumps or fording streams in the middle of a rainstorm.         Thanks,

[Neal]

I have great results with the Shinko tires front and rear they just don't last long rear around 5,000 and front 9,000 with lots of fast back road riding Sent from my iPhoneNeal Trice

On Dec 3, 2015, at 12:40 PM, RJTaylor@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  I dumped the OEM rubber a year after purchasing  my 2006 KLR (new) . Been using Bridgestone Trailwings since.  They''re great tires, but now they're a little higher price than I want.  I've been looking at budget tires - Kenda K270's, Shinko, but the Internet is full of horror stories about rubber blocks falling off, squirrely handling or exploding tires.  Though most posts are from the last decade.  Anyone got a current recommendation?  I'd say I'm 80/20 on/off road.  Offroad is mainly fire trails, gravel roads etc.  I'm not into jumping stumps or fording streams in the middle of a rainstorm.         Thanks,

[Martin Earl]

RT-I would suggest--Select a tire that will meet 90% of your riding requirements.Know that there is no perfect tire that will give you perfect conditions for all occasions.Also note, you can EASILY exceed ANY tires limitations if you don't first understand what it was constructed to accomplish.Everybody seems to have a favorite tire; many give a specific tire bad press for a dirt-nap, when I suspect, it was really bad form that contributed to their bad experience. Just for the purpose of discussion--A dual purpose tire indicates it is constructed for many purposes and will generally fail at all of them if pushed 'hard'.Big block Dunlop 606's knobbies will carve canyons, but not as well as a Dunlop 607 (which I dearly love), but the 606 will be a hoot for everything else but mileage. shrug. IRT to the Kenda 270-- (think, enduro tire, adventure tire for many purposes)--I have consumed a pile of K270's.If you include my son's bike, and my two brother's KLR650's, that would be 4 piles of K270. I have/keep a spare set on the bench in case I ruin one. Note: they are NOT impervious to 20p nails driven through a side wall. sigh. (Went in the tread side and exited the sidewall.)They are not the best tire for really ugly gumbo. shrug. so avoid such places. if you can. Yes, I have had block failures; usually after riding extended periods in temps above 100F. shrug.NOTE: Be sure to rebalance the tire (as best, and as soon as you can) if that happens to you;perhaps my own initial improper tire balance might be what contributed to the lug failure. shrug. It could also be I spun a tire on a rock. it happens, move on.My lug failure was noted at ~500 miles. I rode it another 2500 miles and then changed it. Yes they are/can be squirrelly. So, ride a little slower. shrug. What the internet Gumby's don't/won't tell you, how were they abusing their bike when the K270 failed them.How many of them used to much air pressure, or to little air pressure.No bike/tire will stand up on wet pavement while doing a 90 degree turn with improper throttle use. I ride the K270 all the time at 14psi in rocks with std and/or with HD tubes.I same-day transition to hard pack gravel and asphalt without much difficulty.NOTE: you might get some funny abrasions on your tubes at this pressure. I ALWAYS keep a spare tube on the bench or in your tool kit. I will air up to 22R/24rear for extended canyon carving. Add 4-6 psi for two up. I previously, 'religiously' ran 32F/36R for canyon carving and long distance asphalt, but did not like the excessive center wear pattern.Less air pressure gives a slightly softer ride as well.Note: this is what works for me; use with caution, especially with wet pavement making 90 degree turns at an instersection. I believe Shinko makes/sells a similar pattern, and another brand 'YELLOW BOY' as I recall that has a similar if not identical pattern.Makes one wonder if it is all the same tire, =rebadging the carcass for different distributors. Longevity:I routinely get 5k miles out of the rear, 8K out of the front, unless you find a find a 20p nail...then, go to the bench and replace the tire. As you might note,I like the K270 for value and longevity.If you go to something like a D607 that is suggested as a 90/10 tire, you will vey likely pass up a lot of interesting roads or forest service fire trails.If you use a 50/50 tire like the D606, you get a lot of extra vibration and much lower tire mileage between tire-exchangeAND it will cost you nearly 2x as much as a set of K270's. As a side bar note, After 8-9 years of using K270's,I met and occasionally ride with a (very accomplished) 73year old man that has been riding enduro's since enduro's were invented.I was surprised that he uses the K270 on his DR650, for all the same reasons I have described above. As a second side bar comment:Try to ride with/and observe people who are more accomplished than you are. Your riding skills WILL improve. I know mine did.This is not a license to do/ride stupid stuff, but you will be surprised, your properly kitted KLR is much more capable than you think =13/43, 14/45 or47 sprockets. m1.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 11:40 AM, RJTaylor@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I dumped the OEM rubber a year after purchasing my 2006 KLR (new) . Been using Bridgestone Trailwings since. They''re great tires, but now they're a little higher price than I want. I've been looking at budget tires - Kenda K270's, Shinko, but the Internet is full of horror stories about rubber blocks falling off, squirrely handling or exploding tires. Though most posts are from the last decade. Anyone got a current recommendation? I'd say I'm 80/20 on/off road. Offroad is mainly fire trails, gravel roads etc. I'm not into jumping stumps or fording streams in the middle of a rainstorm. Thanks,

[Martin Earl]

Hi Neal,What specific Shinko model are you using?m1.

On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Neal j.trice@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I have great results with the Shinko tires front and rear they just don't last long rear around 5,000 and front 9,000 with lots of fast back road riding Sent from my iPhoneNeal Trice On Dec 3, 2015, at 12:40 PM, RJTaylor@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I dumped the OEM rubber a year after purchasing my 2006 KLR (new) . Been using Bridgestone Trailwings since. They''re great tires, but now they're a little higher price than I want. I've been looking at budget tires - Kenda K270's, Shinko, but the Internet is full of horror stories about rubber blocks falling off, squirrely handling or exploding tires. Though most posts are from the last decade. Anyone got a current recommendation? I'd say I'm 80/20 on/off road. Offroad is mainly fire trails, gravel roads etc. I'm not into jumping stumps or fording streams in the middle of a rainstorm. Thanks,

[Neal]

705 Sent from my iPhoneNeal Trice

On Dec 3, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Martin Earl wrote:

Hi Neal,What specific Shinko model are you using?m1. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Neal j.trice@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I have great results with the Shinko tires front and rear they just don't last long rear around 5,000 and front 9,000 with lots of fast back road riding Sent from my iPhoneNeal Trice On Dec 3, 2015, at 12:40 PM, RJTaylor@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:   I dumped the OEM rubber a year after purchasing  my 2006 KLR (new) . Been using Bridgestone Trailwings since.  They''re great tires, but now they're a little higher price than I want.  I've been looking at budget tires - Kenda K270's, Shinko, but the Internet is full of horror stories about rubber blocks falling off, squirrely handling or exploding tires.  Though most posts are from the last decade.  Anyone got a current recommendation?  I'd say I'm 80/20 on/off road.  Offroad is mainly fire trails, gravel roads etc.  I'm not into jumping stumps or fording streams in the middle of a rainstorm.         Thanks,

[Neal]

705 Sent from my iPhoneNeal Trice

On Dec 3, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Martin Earl mjearl4@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

  Hi Neal,What specific Shinko model are you using?m1. On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Neal j.trice@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I have great results with the Shinko tires front and rear they just don't last long rear around 5,000 and front 9,000 with lots of fast back road riding Sent from my iPhoneNeal Trice On Dec 3, 2015, at 12:40 PM, RJTaylor@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote:   I dumped the OEM rubber a year after purchasing  my 2006 KLR (new) . Been using Bridgestone Trailwings since.  They''re great tires, but now they're a little higher price than I want.  I've been looking at budget tires - Kenda K270's, Shinko, but the Internet is full of horror stories about rubber blocks falling off, squirrely handling or exploding tires.  Though most posts are from the last decade.  Anyone got a current recommendation?  I'd say I'm 80/20 on/off road.  Offroad is mainly fire trails, gravel roads etc.  I'm not into jumping stumps or fording streams in the middle of a rainstorm.         Thanks,

[John Weisgerber]

Hi all,

I had great experience with the Shinko 705's as an 80/20 tire. Currently trying the Shinko 700's for a more 60/40 thing, and so far like 'em a lot.

If I recall correctly, the Shinko 244--their true knobby--is a different rubber compound than the 705/700's. I can't recall seeing any complaints of bits coming off the 705's or 700's.

I've met some folks that are very excited about their 800 series, but I don't know much about those (yet).

John

[zoot .]

Been a long term fan of the IRC GP110. Kenda's walked too much in the corners for my taste. MT21 chunked up too quickly. IRC GP10 walked like the Kenda's. GP110 just always been predictable in the dirt/gravel. Rails the corners. Hangs nicely on the off pitch banks. Not for mud. Not for sand. Rears only do 3500 or so in the high desert cinders, but then even the Mefo's didn't last here like they did elsewhere. Stiff enough sidewall to load a weeks worth of baggage and get me home. t. On 12/3/2015 10:40 AM, RJTaylor@... [DSN_KLR650] wrote:

I dumped the OEM rubber a year after purchasing my 2006 KLR (new) . Been using Bridgestone Trailwings since. They''re great tires, but now they're a little higher price than I want. I've been looking at budget tires - Kenda K270's, Shinko, but the Internet is full of horror stories about rubber blocks falling off, squirrely handling or exploding tires. Though most posts are from the last decade. Anyone got a current recommendation? I'd say I'm 80/20 on/off road. Offroad is mainly fire trails, gravel roads etc. I'm not into jumping stumps or fording streams in the middle of a rainstorm. Thanks,

[RobertWichert]

Three letters and two numbers. TKC 80 Robert Wichert P.Eng. LEED AP BD&C HERS I/II CEPE CEA BPI CERTIFIED SF/MF GREEN POINT RATER +1 916 966 9060 FAX +1 916 966 9068 =============================================== On 12/3/2015 7:29 PM, 'zoot .' zootpatutie@... [DSN_KLR650] wrote:

Been a long term fan of the IRC GP110. Kenda's walked too much in the corners for my taste. MT21 chunked up too quickly. IRC GP10 walked like the Kenda's. GP110 just always been predictable in the dirt/gravel. Rails the corners. Hangs nicely on the off pitch banks. Not for mud. Not for sand. Rears only do 3500 or so in the high desert cinders, but then even the Mefo's didn't last here like they did elsewhere. Stiff enough sidewall to load a weeks worth of baggage and get me home. t. On 12/3/2015 10:40 AM, RJTaylor@... [DSN_KLR650] wrote: I dumped the OEM rubber a year after purchasing my 2006 KLR (new) . Been using Bridgestone Trailwings since. They''re great tires, but now they're a little higher price than I want. I've been looking at budget tires - Kenda K270's, Shinko, but the Internet is full of horror stories about rubber blocks falling off, squirrely handling or exploding tires. Though most posts are from the last decade. Anyone got a current recommendation? I'd say I'm 80/20 on/off road. Offroad is mainly fire trails, gravel roads etc. I'm not into jumping stumps or fording streams in the middle of a rainstorm. Thanks,

[cycletip]

For my big R1150GSA those TKC 80's are flipping amazing!  Have no experience with them on the KLR and wonder what the 21" front would feel like on highway?  Grip on pavement is quidiculous, fire road performance admirable, not sure about full off road but probably doable.  For me Dunlop D606 but my KLR is 80/20 off road.