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[klrdon@aol.com]

Dropping the front (letting the fork tubes project above the upper clamp) will in theory make the steering MORE sensitive and quicker - not what it sounds like you are looking for. In your post I hear a call for more stability. I have heard rumors of lift produced by the front fender but an not convinced. Sometimes the rear shock setting will effect the feeling of stability if set too mushy. Maybe an experiment is needed. New fork oil too, if it's been in there long. Don M Atlanta, GA A16

> i feel that the front end is too light at 110km/h+ > is there anything i can do? i was thinking of dropping the front by 1 > or 1/2 cm. will that help? > > clint

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[Lee Dickinson]

Steering head bearings that are too loose can make it twitchy as well. It's probably tire dependent asd well, but IMO, the KLR is a bit twitchy at road speed on asphalt anyway. If I give the bars on mine a good back-and-forth jiggle at speed, it'll try to dance the watusi. This is with fresh Gripsters and all steering and suspension bearings front and rear either new, recently lubed, or extensively fiddled with. Lee A7 / Colbert, GA USA

----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [DSN_klr650] fork oil > Dropping the front (letting the fork tubes project above the upper clamp) > will in theory make the steering MORE sensitive and quicker - not what it sounds > like you are looking for. In your post I hear a call for more stability. I > have heard rumors of lift produced by the front fender but an not convinced. > Sometimes the rear shock setting will effect the feeling of stability if set too > mushy. Maybe an experiment is needed. New fork oil too, if it's been in there > long. > > Don M > Atlanta, GA > A16 > > > > i feel that the front end is too light at 110km/h+ > > is there anything i can do? i was thinking of dropping the front by 1 > > or 1/2 cm. will that help? > > > > clint > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html > Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: > DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >

[Judy]

Guys- I'm getting ready for the St. Louis doohickey party this Saturday, and while I have the front wheel off to put on a new tire (with help from the great StL KLR guys), I thought I'd change the fork oil. I thought I'd try to alleviate some of the front-end dive with oil before I invest in springs, so what is your reccomendations for weight of fork oil? 20W, 15W and 10W were all suggested in the FAQ, and I know it's a matter of preference, but what do you guys use? TIA, Judy

[GMac999]

Judy, I weigh around 190 lbs. I changed out the fork oil on my '95 with 15w BelRay and it worked OK with the factory springs. I tried 20w and it was too stiff for my liking and didn't seem to help the dive any better than the 15w. Once I installed the progressive springs though, I went to 10w to get the ride I liked. Greg '95 A9 -----Original Message----- From: Judy [mailto:soulardian@...] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 11:29 AM To: DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSN_klr650] Fork oil Guys- I'm getting ready for the St. Louis doohickey party this Saturday, and while I have the front wheel off to put on a new tire (with help from the great StL KLR guys), I thought I'd change the fork oil. I thought I'd try to alleviate some of the front-end dive with oil before I invest in springs, so what is your reccomendations for weight of fork oil? 20W, 15W and 10W were all suggested in the FAQ, and I know it's a matter of preference, but what do you guys use? TIA, Judy List sponsored by Dual Sport News at www.dualsportnews.com. List FAQ courtesy of Chris Krok at: www.bigcee.com/klr650faq.html Unsubscribe by sending a blank message to: DSN_klr650-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com . Yahoo! Groups Links

[rm@richardmay.net]

On Thu, 4 Nov 2004, Judy wrote:

>I thought I'd try to alleviate some of the front-end dive with oil >before I invest in springs, so what is your reccomendations for >weight of fork oil? 20W, 15W and 10W were all suggested in the FAQ, >and I know it's a matter of preference, but what do you guys use?

15W will stop the front end from flopping around so much, but it'll do nothing to stop the front end from pointing to China under heavy braking. A heavier oil just slows the motion down a little. Get springs. RM

[kusst]

I am over 230# and the "dive" in the corners was getting old. I went w/ 20wt and was happily suprized at the effect it had in slowing the dive. But the complete approach is the LR progressive springs. I held off two years, but in the end it was well worth it. The dive is close to eliminated and the feel of the front end is much more controlled. Don't put it off unless you never plan on riding off road. Now I am just debating on when to change the doohickey. Todd Chaska MN A16 03 F7

[dooden]

--- In DSN_klr650@yahoogroups.com, "kusst" wrote:

> > I am over 230# and the "dive" in the corners was getting old. I went > w/ 20wt and was happily suprized at the effect it had in slowing the > dive. But the complete approach is the LR progressive springs. I > held off two years, but in the end it was well worth it. The dive > is close to eliminated and the feel of the front end is much more > controlled. Don't put it off unless you never plan on riding off > road. > > Now I am just debating on when to change the doohickey. > > Todd > Chaska MN > A16 > 03 F7

I can kinda deal with the dive for now, but the doohickey ? Rather have a diver than be riding a grenade. (My opinion thats all) Dooden A15 Green Ape

[Mike Hagen]

Hi All, Fork Oil might be worth $6-8 a quart for the experts, but I am cheap. I used ATF or Hydraulic oil. ATF even has additives for seals. ACE hardware sells a Gallon of Hydraulic oil for about $9, was $8 last year. It is used in log splitters and other tools up here. I use it in my air tools too, a little squirt down the impact wrench each time I use it. Yea, I guess I am really cheap, but unless you need low (5) or high(20) viscosity, I think ATF is about 10-15? You can download data sheet, but viscosity is measured at all different temperatures and in several units? I am not an expert ridder and it would take a lot more ridding for me to sort out small handling differences. Mike Crestline, CA. "Ebay Red" an A18 that still need Ca Registration! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[rm@richardmay.net]

On Fri, 5 Nov 2004, Mike Hagen wrote:

>Yea, I guess I am really cheap, but unless you need low (5) or high(20) >viscosity, I think ATF is about 10-15? You can download data sheet, but >viscosity is measured at all different temperatures and in several units?

ATF, ISO 32 hydraulic oil, and 10W fork oil are all within 10-15% of each other, depending on the specific brand and formulation. I use ATF. It works fine. RM

[Carlos Rigdon]

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