unlearning can be dangerous

[Norm Keller]

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[thomas cole]

Group I have a bit of a situation here. I finally got my bike out of storage a few weeks ago. I had it stored in a shed all winterized since Oct. I filled the tank with fresh gas and put in a liberal amount of sea foam green back then. So after putting the bike in my garage to get it ready for riding, had the battery on a tender...etc. After a couple of cranks of the throttle and with the choke employed, I got it to fire it up. It cranks and actually fired up for a few seconds. Then I noticed fuel on the floor. After taking a good look I noticed while cranking that the fuel was spewing directly from the clear vent hose. I'm no rocket surgeon but if I'm not mistaken that hose is for sucking air, not pumping / pushing gas onto my floor. There is no seepage of fuel from anywhere else just from the inside of that hose, and no I have not done the T-mod. So my question to the group is.....What should I be doing to sort this out? I'm a novice rider with limited experience fixing stuff on my bike. Thanks in advance Tom A-20, Lime Ricky

[jeffsaline]

On Fri, 22 May 2015 18:37:28 -0500 "Thomas Cole coletearmy@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> writes:

> Group I have a bit of a situation here. I finally got my bike out of > storage a few weeks ago. I had it stored in a shed all winterized > since Oct. I filled the tank with fresh gas and put in a liberal > amount of sea foam green back then. > > So after putting the bike in my garage to get it ready for riding, > had the battery on a tender...etc. After a couple of cranks of the > throttle and with the choke employed, I got it to fire it up. It > cranks and actually fired up for a few seconds. Then I noticed fuel > on the floor. After taking a good look I noticed while cranking that > the fuel was spewing directly from the clear vent hose. I'm no > rocket surgeon but if I'm not mistaken that hose is for sucking air, > not pumping / pushing gas onto my floor. There is no seepage of fuel > from anywhere else just from the inside of that hose, and no I have > not done the T-mod. > > So my question to the group is.....What should I be doing to sort > this out? I'm a novice rider with limited experience fixing stuff on > my bike. > > Thanks in advance > > Tom > A-20, Lime Ricky

<><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><> Tom, That suggests the carb float isn't floating or the float needle is stuck open or something is blocking the float needle from seating and shutting off fuel flow. First thing I would try is to tap/rap on the side of the carb float bowl with a screwdriver handle. Doesn't matter if JIS, flat tip or phillips. : ) That might loosen a stuck float. If that doesn't work I would probably be removing the float bowl and cleaning the bottom part of the carb. I would not soak the float needle in carb cleaner although I would probably clean it with WD-40. While I was in there I would also clean the jets. Be careful with the plastic choke nut on the left side of the carb. When you rotate the carb to get access to the float bowl fasteners that plastic nut often gets cracked if care isn't exercised. I take the choke lever off the handle bar so there is more slack available to prevent stressing the plastic nut. Did you drain the carb when you stored the bike or did you leave fuel in the float bowl? Best, Jeff Saline The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . . . . . . . . ____________________________________________________________ Old School Yearbook Pics View Class Yearbooks Online Free. Search by School & Year. Look Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/555fc841aac1e48412babst01vuc

[tomatocity]

Just a thought: If the carburetor bowl was removed while on the side stand... the pin that retains the float can partially slide out which can prevent the float from floating and regulating the fuel level.

On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 5:21 PM, salinej1@... [DSN_KLR650] DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> wrote: [u][/u] On Fri, 22 May 2015 18:37:28 -0500 "Thomas Cole coletearmy@... [DSN_KLR650]" DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> writes: > Group I have a bit of a situation here. I finally got my bike out of > storage a few weeks ago. I had it stored in a shed all winterized > since Oct. I filled the tank with fresh gas and put in a liberal > amount of sea foam green back then. > > So after putting the bike in my garage to get it ready for riding, > had the battery on a tender...etc. After a couple of cranks of the > throttle and with the choke employed, I got it to fire it up. It > cranks and actually fired up for a few seconds. Then I noticed fuel > on the floor. After taking a good look I noticed while cranking that > the fuel was spewing directly from the clear vent hose. I'm no > rocket surgeon but if I'm not mistaken that hose is for sucking air, > not pumping / pushing gas onto my floor. There is no seepage of fuel > from anywhere else just from the inside of that hose, and no I have > not done the T-mod. > > So my question to the group is.....What should I be doing to sort > this out? I'm a novice rider with limited experience fixing stuff on > my bike. > > Thanks in advance > > Tom > A-20, Lime Ricky <><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><> Tom, That suggests the carb float isn't floating or the float needle is stuck open or something is blocking the float needle from seating and shutting off fuel flow. First thing I would try is to tap/rap on the side of the carb float bowl with a screwdriver handle. Doesn't matter if JIS, flat tip or phillips. : ) That might loosen a stuck float. If that doesn't work I would probably be removing the float bowl and cleaning the bottom part of the carb. I would not soak the float needle in carb cleaner although I would probably clean it with WD-40. While I was in there I would also clean the jets. Be careful with the plastic choke nut on the left side of the carb. When you rotate the carb to get access to the float bowl fasteners that plastic nut often gets cracked if care isn't exercised. I take the choke lever off the handle bar so there is more slack available to prevent stressing the plastic nut. Did you drain the carb when you stored the bike or did you leave fuel in the float bowl? Best, Jeff Saline The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650 . . . . . . . . . __________________________________________________________ Old School Yearbook Pics View Class Yearbooks Online Free. Search by School & Year. Look Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/555fc841aac1e48412babst01vuc