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[SM]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Fred Hink" wrote:

> > I never watched SP but here ya go.... > http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/251889 > >

My muffler started tweeting so I threw it away and took a length of pipe and bent it to fit, welded a tab on it, put a chrome tip on it I got from Pep Boys and that was that. Looks cool, is a lot lighter than stock, sounds really loud and good, and I bet I gained 4 horsepower. Plus, I want to be safe on the road. Cagers hear me coming and moce out of the way. I don't see what all the hoo haa is about loud pipes, this is America and if I want my bike to be loud it's nobody's business but mine. Thanks CA Stu

[klr6501995]

At what point does sound from another persons machine become physical assualt ??? I ask becouse I did go back to a stock muffler from a quiet supertrapp w/ 8 disks. As I really started HATEING the boomer cars that drive around my neighborhood, and even the local harley straight pipe IDIOTS.

[Dennis Griffin]

At the point that it intrudes on your right to peace & quiet. IMNSHO, loud motorcycles are a sure way to make more people hate motorcyclists and want to do them harm. Also, anyone that rides under the impression that loud pipes are a security blanket that keeps them safe will likely have a rude awakening. Dennis Scottsdale, AZ 602-717-4746 cell '09 KLR650 black '09 KLX250S red '08 Versys red '06 KLR650 red '06 DL1000 V-Strom grey/black '04 Triumph Daytona 955i miss me yellow '00 Triumph Sprint RS 955i miss me yellow '99 KLR650 nasty green

On Nov 6, 2009, at 8:23 AM, klr6501995 wrote: > > At what point does sound from another persons machine become > physical assualt ??? > > I ask becouse I did go back to a stock muffler from a quiet > supertrapp w/ 8 disks. > > As I really started HATEING the boomer cars that drive around my > neighborhood, and even the local harley straight pipe IDIOTS. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Thomas Komjathy]

The best way to gauge that is to consider what is not acceptable to you when you hear another persons vehicle. As different as we all are, we are very much alike in many ways, meaning; if it is annoying to you, it is annoying to others as well. Make that consideration in the contexed of being a mature adult, with a home, etc. Even how we ride and when we let it rip makes a differents... I have canisters on all the bikes I ride and yes they are a little loader than stock, but can be very load (my interpretation) if I throw the revs to them. I work on bikes at my home and it is in a well established subdivision with mostly retired or close to retired people. If I finish a bike at 8:00 PM and it needs to be run, I wait to the next day, when everyone has gone to work or is up. When I leave, I go easy and have an area that I do open them up in, but there's no homes for miles. When I sit at a light, I don't rev the engine, or depend on my noise to save me from anyone. That said, I feel and know straight pipes are bullshit and anyone that depends on noise as a deterring factor is in for a big surprise. Street and most bikes need a certain amount of back pressure to allow the engine work best, straight pipes are for a very narrow range of RPM which is consistently obtainable on the track but not the street. Let's come up with a slogan, like; 'It's better to Rumble, not Roar' or something like that. Let's face it, most of the people out there today are us Baby Boomers and we grew up in the Muscle Car era, so we like a rumble, but like to hear ourselves talk... TK ________________________________ From: klr6501995 To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 10:23:54 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR At what point does sound from another persons machine become physical assualt ??? I ask becouse I did go back to a stock muffler from a quiet supertrapp w/ 8 disks. As I really started HATEING the boomer cars that drive around my neighborhood, and even the local harley straight pipe IDIOTS. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Thomas Komjathy]

Screw em... ________________________________ From: Dennis Griffin To: KLR650 List DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 10:46:01 AM Subject: Re: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR At the point that it intrudes on your right to peace & quiet. IMNSHO, loud motorcycles are a sure way to make more people hate motorcyclists and want to do them harm. Also, anyone that rides under the impression that loud pipes are a security blanket that keeps them safe will likely have a rude awakening. Dennis Scottsdale, AZ 602-717-4746 cell '09 KLR650 black '09 KLX250S red '08 Versys red '06 KLR650 red '06 DL1000 V-Strom grey/black '04 Triumph Daytona 955i miss me yellow '00 Triumph Sprint RS 955i miss me yellow '99 KLR650 nasty green

On Nov 6, 2009, at 8:23 AM, klr6501995 wrote: > > At what point does sound from another persons machine become > physical assualt ??? > > I ask becouse I did go back to a stock muffler from a quiet > supertrapp w/ 8 disks. > > As I really started HATEING the boomer cars that drive around my > neighborhood, and even the local harley straight pipe IDIOTS. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[fasteddiecopeman]

Stu, " I don't see what all the hoo haa is about loud pipes, this is America and if I want my bike to be loud it's nobody's business but mine. " Respectfully I must disagree with you. When your behavior impacts others in a negative fashion, then 'civilised' behavior would suggest that you modify that behavior BEFORE you end up "sanctioned" in one way or another. ...And I understand that there is mounting pressure AGAINST motorcycles IN GENERAL, because of some actions IN PARTICULAR, and particularly this is because of the "loud-pipes-save-lives" falsehood. My mindset is to be part of the solution rather than part of the problem. My .02$. Ed

[Rick McCauley]

This is America. It is my gun. If i want to shoot it in town it's nobody's business but my own.!! I think your logic is grossly flawed there Stu. Loud pipes are illegal. Just because it is your bike doesn't mean you can break the law with it. And no, I didn't vote for the Black Muslim And I don't think it was right for you to call us commies Rick A17 ________________________________ From: SM To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 9:00:45 AM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR I don't see what all the hoo haa is about loud pipes, this is America and if I want my bike to be loud it's nobody's business but mine. Thanks CA Stu

[Mike Frey]

Stu's trolling and it's working. Don't succumb to that. That said, I'll nibble at the hook: If anyone spots a QUIET green 06 KLR with Pennsylvania tags in Death Valley this weekend, it's a near certainty that it's me. If some dipwad comes through Titus Canyon or Saline Valley on a loud pipes bike, they'll get the ADVrider salute from me. It's mating season for the Bighorns and you'll scare 'em. Worse still, you could interrupt my tryst with that cute ewe that I stole away from the Great Horned Beast of a Ram back down Wildrose way. Baa-aa-aaa-aack off, she's mine. Rick McCauley wrote:

> > This is America. It is my gun. If i want to shoot it in town it's > nobody's business but my own.!! > I think your logic is grossly flawed there Stu. Loud pipes are > illegal. Just because it is your bike doesn't > mean you can break the law with it. > > And no, I didn't vote for the Black Muslim > And I don't think it was right for you to call us commies > > Rick > A17 > > ________________________________ > From: SM > > To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 9:00:45 AM > Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR > > I don't see what all the hoo haa is about loud pipes, this is America > and if I want my bike to be loud it's nobody's business but mine. > > Thanks > CA Stu > PS I suppose all you commies voted Obama, too. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >

[roncriswell@sbcglobal.net]

Can you hear loud pipes in a perfect vacum (space)? Criswell Sent from my iPhone On Nov 6, 2009, at 11:34 AM, "fasteddiecopeman" > wrote: > Stu, > > " I don't see what all the hoo haa is about loud pipes, this is > America and if I want my bike to be loud it's nobody's business but > mine. " > > Respectfully I must disagree with you. When your behavior impacts > others in a negative fashion, then 'civilised' behavior would > suggest that you modify that behavior BEFORE you end up "sanctioned" > in one way or another. > > ...And I understand that there is mounting pressure AGAINST > motorcycles IN GENERAL, because of some actions IN PARTICULAR, and > particularly this is because of the "loud-pipes-save-lives" falsehood. > > My mindset is to be part of the solution rather than part of the > problem. > > My .02$. > > Ed > >

[Mike Frey]

No, but the darn bike runs so rich that the spark plugs keep fouling unless you energize the flux capacitor. roncriswell@... wrote:

> > > Can you hear loud pipes in a perfect vacum (space)? > > Criswell > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Nov 6, 2009, at 11:34 AM, "fasteddiecopeman" > > > wrote: > > > Stu, > > > > " I don't see what all the hoo haa is about loud pipes, this is > > America and if I want my bike to be loud it's nobody's business but > > mine. " > > > > Respectfully I must disagree with you. When your behavior impacts > > others in a negative fashion, then 'civilised' behavior would > > suggest that you modify that behavior BEFORE you end up "sanctioned" > > in one way or another. > > > > ...And I understand that there is mounting pressure AGAINST > > motorcycles IN GENERAL, because of some actions IN PARTICULAR, and > > particularly this is because of the "loud-pipes-save-lives" falsehood. > > > > My mindset is to be part of the solution rather than part of the > > problem. > > > > My .02$. > > > > Ed > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >