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[Bruce R. Porter]

A bold statement indeed, but doesn't it also say that you are dead? Bruce

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Dooden" wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "Jud Jones" wrote: > > > > How about this one? > > > > Jud Jones > > King of Poland, > > Grand Duke of Lithuania, > > Founder of the Free Union of East Central European Peoples, > > Victor over the Teutonic Aggressor at Gruenwald, May 5, 1410 > > > > I borrowed it, sort of, from somebody else, but I think it makes a > bold statement, dont > > you? > > You forgot Duke of Ditches... Hawz the ribs ? > > Dooden > A15 Green Ape >

[Ron Moorhouse]

----- Original Message ---- From: Jud Jones To: DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2006 6:46:43 PM Subject: [DSN_KLR650] Re: NKLR

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogro ups.com, Jeff Saline wrote: > > On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:38:41 -0700 (PDT) Ron Moorhouse > writes: > > A friend of mine and this list, recently commented about somewhat > > detailed signature lines being a good thing on public posts; "so > > folks can know just a little bit about me (sender)." Many, maybe > > most of you, already have one. Anyone care to add/change theirs? > > Sounds like fun to me! My new one is below! > > > > "Ride On" and Be Safe > > Ron Moorhouse > > Central Valley, Modesto, CA "Water, Wealth, Contentment, Health" > > A Kawasaki Man: '06 KLR650, '93 KDX200, '05 KDX220 > > Counting down to the GDR on July 8th, 2006 AND under two weeks to > > go! > <><><><><><> <> > <><><><><><> <> > > Ron, > > I like signature lines too! : ) They tell me a little something about > the person posting. I've been told they should not normally be over 5 > lines long. You've seen mine but here it is again. > > Best, > > Jeff Saline > ABC # 4412 South Dakota Airmarshal > Airheads Beemer Club www.airheads. org > The Beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota > 75 R90/6, 03 KLR650, 79 R100RT > How about this one? Jud Jones King of Poland, Grand Duke of Lithuania, Founder of the Free Union of East Central European Peoples, Victor over the Teutonic Aggressor at Gruenwald, May 5, 1410 I borrowed it, sort of, from somebody else, but I think it makes a bold statement, dont you? Whatever floats your boat! If you don't like the idea, its cool! "Ride On" and Be Safe Ron Moorhouse Central Valley, Modesto, CA "Water, Wealth, Contentment, Health" A Kawasaki Man: '06 KLR650, '93 KDX200, '05 KDX220 Counting down to the GDR on July 8th, 2006 AND under two weeks to go! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Howard Morris]

How do I change my signature when I post. Have done it a number of times but now can't remember what I did. Thanks

[Willy J]

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[Bogdan Swider]

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[Bogdan Swider]

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[monte quint]

You, "being the victim of gun violence" should have some special insight. Were you a "clear headed negotiator" before the violence or after and what good did the "negotiating" do you? Having seen some small amount of violence and its results firmly believe a gun in my hand is far preferable to one at my head. A gun, and someone who knew how to use it, gave you the right to choose not to have one. Never, ever, forget. Next subject please. Monte [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[E.L. Green]

--- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com, "monte quint" wrote:

> You, "being the victim of gun violence" should have some special > insight. > > Were you a "clear headed negotiator" before the violence or after and > what good did the "negotiating" do you? > > Having seen some small amount of violence and its results firmly believe > a gun in my hand is far preferable to one at my head.

Just out of curiousity, have you ever had a gun pointed at you? Do you have any idea how you would respond in that situation? Have you ever pointed a gun at someone in a violent situation? Do you have any idea how accurately you could shoot it under those conditions? I say this because police officers are actually trained in how to respond to that situation, and police officer firearms accuracy is legendary -- for being awful. Police officers are also actually trained in shoot/don't shoot situations -- and still occasionally manage to shoot people like Amadou Diallo, who was guilty of nothing more than standing in a darkened foyer. And despite the fact that they fired 41 shots at him at point blank range (less than 10 feet away), less than half the bullets (19) actually hit him. Frankly, I doubt my ability to a) accurately discern a threat in time to clear a weapon in a way that would make any difference, and b) actually hit what I'm aiming at when the adrenalin is pumping. As far as negotiating skills go, you never hear about the school shootings that did NOT happen because the kid got talked down. My response to those situations was always to get very, very quiet then start talking in a very calm and rational voice. It almost doesn't matter what you say in that situation, you just want to de-escalate from violence to words. 99.9% of the time, it does work. The kid ends up getting talked to the teacher break room (not the principal's office, there might be other kids in and around the principal's office, you know there won't be any in the teacher break room besides the kids are generally interested in seeing what's in there), and voluntarily hands over the gun then is turned over to the police shortly thereafter. I won't give you details (federal law protects student privacy, state law protects the privacy of juveniles in the juvenile justice system). Let's just say that more guns in this situation, for the most part, would result in many many more deaths than what currently happens, both because of the incompetence of untrained civilians who can't hit what they shoot at when the adrenalin is pumping (what, you think you can do better than a trained cop? HAH!), and because it escalated a non-shooting situation into a shooting situation. I find that people who get all macho about guns generally haven't had one aimed at them or had to aim them at someone. When you're in that situation, you become very serious indeed. Anyhow, get on back to your gun control discussion, I won't get involved in it. I just wanted to address the notion that "a gun in hand is better than one at the head." Real life just doesn't work that way, unlike the fantasies that so many people who think with their balls have built around themselves as some gigantic John Wayne figure who will shoot bad guys dead with one bullet to the head. Real life is that you don't know the bad guy is a bad guy until the gun is already at your head, and at that point a gun in hand just gets you dead.

[James Morrow Sr]

Your entirely right, someone like you shouldn't have a gun, probably like most people. However, many who consider not being a victim, do learn to use a firearm. I practice shoot more than 10,000 rounds per year. About 50X what an average police office might shoot. Certainly a gun or nothing else, GUARANTEEs you will survive a violent attack. Not bringing a gun to a violent attack WILL GUARNTEE you will not survive. The whole key here is, NO GUN CONTROL. Those that want them should have them (criminals do), those that do not want them, do not have to have. In CCW states, the majority of the people who are not CCW, are getting some effect from the small number who do carry. Criminals are more selective when they know their potential victim has the right to carry.

On 6/1/07, E.L. Green wrote: > > --- In DSN_KLR650@yahoogroups.com , "monte > quint" wrote: > > You, "being the victim of gun violence" should have some special > > insight. > > > > Were you a "clear headed negotiator" before the violence or after and > > what good did the "negotiating" do you? > > > > Having seen some small amount of violence and its results firmly believe > > a gun in my hand is far preferable to one at my head. > > Just out of curiousity, have you ever had a gun pointed at you? Do you > have any idea how you would respond in that situation? Have you ever > pointed a gun at someone in a violent situation? Do you have any idea > how accurately you could shoot it under those conditions? > > I say this because police officers are actually trained in how to > respond to that situation, and police officer firearms accuracy is > legendary -- for being awful. Police officers are also actually > trained in shoot/don't shoot situations -- and still occasionally > manage to shoot people like Amadou Diallo, who was guilty of nothing > more than standing in a darkened foyer. And despite the fact that they > fired 41 shots at him at point blank range (less than 10 feet away), > less than half the bullets (19) actually hit him. > > Frankly, I doubt my ability to a) accurately discern a threat in time > to clear a weapon in a way that would make any difference, and b) > actually hit what I'm aiming at when the adrenalin is pumping. As far > as negotiating skills go, you never hear about the school shootings > that did NOT happen because the kid got talked down. My response to > those situations was always to get very, very quiet then start talking > in a very calm and rational voice. It almost doesn't matter what you > say in that situation, you just want to de-escalate from violence to > words. 99.9% of the time, it does work. The kid ends up getting talked > to the teacher break room (not the principal's office, there might be > other kids in and around the principal's office, you know there won't > be any in the teacher break room besides the kids are generally > interested in seeing what's in there), and voluntarily hands over the > gun then is turned over to the police shortly thereafter. I won't give > you details (federal law protects student privacy, state law protects > the privacy of juveniles in the juvenile justice system). Let's just > say that more guns in this situation, for the most part, would result > in many many more deaths than what currently happens, both because of > the incompetence of untrained civilians who can't hit what they shoot > at when the adrenalin is pumping (what, you think you can do better > than a trained cop? HAH!), and because it escalated a non-shooting > situation into a shooting situation. > > I find that people who get all macho about guns generally haven't had > one aimed at them or had to aim them at someone. When you're in that > situation, you become very serious indeed. > > Anyhow, get on back to your gun control discussion, I won't get > involved in it. I just wanted to address the notion that "a gun in > hand is better than one at the head." Real life just doesn't work that > way, unlike the fantasies that so many people who think with their > balls have built around themselves as some gigantic John Wayne figure > who will shoot bad guys dead with one bullet to the head. Real life is > that you don't know the bad guy is a bad guy until the gun is already > at your head, and at that point a gun in hand just gets you dead. > > > -- James Morrow Sr Union, MO '00' RT + dual plug + Bunkhouse '00' BUSA + 15hp '05' KLR650 + big fun factor [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[CB]

Please consider letting this go. Or maybe taking it off-list.

On Jun 1, 2007, at 10:31 AM, James Morrow Sr wrote: > Your entirely right, someone like you shouldn't have a gun, > probably like > most people. > > However, many who consider not being a victim, do learn to use a > firearm. I > practice shoot more than 10,000 rounds per year. About 50X what an > average > police office might shoot.